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3800 Muffler- heat shield question by cam-a-lot
Started on: 09-08-2024 07:44 AM
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Last post by: cam-a-lot on 09-13-2024 06:11 AM
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Report this Post09-08-2024 07:44 AM Click Here to See the Profile for cam-a-lotSend a Private Message to cam-a-lotEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Hello

I am getting my 3800 exhaust re-done soon and will be putting a muffler in the stock Fiero location. Currently my car has no muffler exhaust shield in the stock location, and I am struggling to find one.

1) are all fiero muffler heat shields the same, regardless of year or engine? My car is an 88 V6

2.) Do you guys normally put extra material under the heat shield for additional shielding to reduce heat getting into the trunk area?

3.) Any photos available and suggested material I can use for this ?

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Report this Post09-08-2024 10:14 AM Click Here to See the Profile for fieroguruSend a Private Message to fieroguruEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
1. Yes, the rear shield is the same across all years and models.

2. I don't. The air gap between the shield and truck allows air flow to keep the heat from entering the trunk area. Filling that area with something will allow it to collect moisture and possibly rust.

3. If your exhaust/muffler is stainless, you can use standard header wrap on it to help keep more of the heat in the mufflers and pipes. Be careful using insulating materials and only use materials rated for exhaust and engine bays. At least one 3800 swap burnt down due to improper insulation materials coming loose and setting on the exhaust. If it is going to be close to the exhaust, it needs to be rated to touch the exhaust.
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Report this Post09-08-2024 08:04 PM Click Here to See the Profile for cam-a-lotSend a Private Message to cam-a-lotEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Great info, thanks Guru
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Both my swaps have a Spintech 13" muffler in the stock location. Even with the heat shield in place, the short exhaust causes much heat in the trunk area. The exhaust pipes were covered in exhaust wrap and that helped quiet things down a bit but not the heat. Using the U bend to muffler approach (to keep the full trunk) I don't see a solution.

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Report this Post09-10-2024 07:17 AM Click Here to See the Profile for FrenchrafeSend a Private Message to FrenchrafeEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Yes, you will need some sort of heat shield.
I used the factory one with extensions riveted on to one side.
These extensions are made from 0.5mm galvanised sheet steel. It holds up well to the heat, and you could possibly make all the shield from this galva sheet, if you needed.
You must use steel rivets for the heat as well.

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i kept my trunk intact and the heat shield in the stock position. i wrapped the exhaust in heat shield tape rated for direct contact. i was still getting too much heat into the trunk - so much so that i melted some clothes in there. So i bot some heat shield cloth from amazon and that GREATLY helped. Replacing the carpet in the trunk has now made it quite cool in there - so we even put groceries there.

https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B0...dt_b_product_details

Its enuf for two trunks - my buddy did his also.

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Report this Post09-13-2024 06:11 AM Click Here to See the Profile for cam-a-lotSend a Private Message to cam-a-lotEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Thanks LongJon

So you put this matting INSIDE the trunk, correct? Did you then put the factory carpet back over it?

Dennis, thanks for the info. I am running WCF headers and am routing the stock Fiero direction, so hopefully the longer exhaust dissipates "some" of the heat compared to using 3800 manifolds or P Logs.

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