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Fuel Pump Relay Question by Boozeman
Started on: 09-11-2024 10:25 AM
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Good morning!

I've got an '88 Formula with the 2.8 V6. Pretty much stock. A couple of days ago, my fuel pump relay quit working. Yesterday, I replaced it. After replacing, I tested it by putting my multimeter on the ground pin and the fuel pump pin at the ALDL plug, and then turning the key on and off. My question is this: does the ECM energize the fuel pump relay EVERY time you turn on the key, or will it only turn on the relay when it senses there is no (or not enough) fuel pressure? I ask the question because when I tested the new relay, the first two times I turned the key on, the relay energized and powered the pump. The next couple of times it did not. The next couple of times it did, and so on. I was pretty much turning the key off right after the relay de-energized, and then turning it back on again to test. Should the relay energize every time I turn on the key?


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There seems to be a timed delay - if you turn the key on and then off when primed and then on again within the allotted time, it will not energize the fuel pump.

What this time frame is I have no ideal, but I discovered you have to wait a bit.
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Report this Post09-12-2024 11:04 AM Click Here to See the Profile for BoozemanSend a Private Message to BoozemanEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Thank you for the reply and the information! That is what I'm experiencing... just wanted to be sure it was intentional and not a bad relay...
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Report this Post10-10-2024 07:19 AM Click Here to See the Profile for 88FingersSend a Private Message to 88FingersEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Hello there, where is the fuel pump relay located on the '88 GT? Thank you
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Report this Post10-10-2024 08:31 AM Click Here to See the Profile for Vintage-NutSend a Private Message to Vintage-NutEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
The Fuel Pump Relay is located on the rear firewall in the engine compartment on the left, behind the driver's seat.




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It should be noted that although the FSM illustration shows three relays, there are only two relays in that location on an 88 GT.

To be certain which relay is the for the fuel pump, it is the one with a pair of orange/black wires.

The A/C relay has no orange/black wires.
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Hello guys and gals. Turns out the fuel pump relay on "88 GTs is in the front compartment on the passenger side near the heater hoses!
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Originally posted by 88Fingers:

Hello guys and gals. Turns out the fuel pump relay on "88 GTs is in the front compartment on the passenger side near the heater hoses!


No, it is not.

The relays in the front compartment are for the HVAC blower high speed and A/C enable.
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Report this Post10-11-2024 07:49 AM Click Here to See the Profile for 88FingersSend a Private Message to 88FingersEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Hello again, i don't have A/C in either car and no relays are there in the engine compartment as per the diagram.
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...no relays are there in the engine compartment as per the diagram.


The factory location for the fuel pump is as stated in the image and 'hidden' behind the air cleaner housing.

However, if your GT was modified; a previous owner perhaps relocated the relay as it can be easily moved......

The fuel pump relay has four wires:
Black
Green/White
Tan/White
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Thank you Vintage Nut, a posting I read by Old Lar stated that on '88s it is in the front passenger side however, if that is the blower motor relay then I will remove the air cleaner canister and check there. I bought this car brand new, it is not modified and it only has 40,000 miles on it.
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Ahhhhhh! Thank you kind sir. This clarifies the whole thing now! I appreciate that!
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Originally posted by Mickey_Moose:

There seems to be a timed delay - if you turn the key on and then off when primed and then on again within the allotted time, it will not energize the fuel pump.

What this time frame is I have no ideal, but I discovered you have to wait a bit.


Yes, I can confirm same. It won't energize again for some time period. Seems like 30-45 seconds in my experience, but never actually timed it.
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