Hi, I'm new to forums, location I'm in the UK and here's my question, I have a white fiero sat here in a field since 1991, it has every thing a 1984 car body wise should have, ie vented deck lid, those earlier door skins 13 inch turbo wheels, glass sail panels, fisher body in the step sills, (rockers) etc etc, but the vin year on the plate is F not a E as I'd would expect, the screen is out and the tag plates havnt looked to been tampered with, it's identical to my earlier fiero with E vin, the door I'd sticker has long since weathered away on this one so did they produce the 84 fiero with it the early bits into 1985, thanks, can any one help with the month of production can supply full vin if needed thanks
The RPO sticker on the front driverside wheel well also lists the VIN. If that is worn as well, there is a 2nd VIN tag under the dash and mounted on the steering column support.
You can also look in the engine bay as the wiring changed from 84 to 85. If there is a large electrical junction connector behind the battery, then it is an 85-87. In the picture below you can just see the + battery terminal on the battery and the right side of the picture is the passenger strut tower.
If that same connector is more towards the center of the firewall to the passenger compartment, then it is an 84. After 40 years, it is quite common for panels to be swapped, but it takes a fair amount more effort to swap the entire electrical harness, so that is much less common.
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So if this is the case of it being 1984 spec, why does it have a tenth digit F does not make sense did they have it hanging around and decided to plate it up later to get rid?
Originally posted by Pontiacjeepuk: So if this is the case of it being 1984 spec, why does it have a tenth digit F does not make sense did they have it hanging around and decided to plate it up later to get rid?
Post your VIN number and let the Fiero sleuths go to work.
Hi OK here's the vin for this 1984 fiero IG2PF37ROFP204093 I've looked on panels but there's no stickers anywhere, is there a physical stamping on the metal frame as like on British cars, thanks for the help
Fiero hub lists it as a 1985 SE, that's the extent of my vin lookup tools haha, although here is the actual vin (1 instead of I and a 0 instead of an o in one place): 1G2PF37R0FP204093
Hi thanks for that but given the whole car is 1984 in its many discriptions of a 84 car, I don't think it's a 85 car dispite the vin, I smell a rat some where, what type of pop rivet are used to hold the vin tags on, I thought they were stainless steel with a clover type edge on closer inspection they look to be alloy and round thanks, if I am to restore this car I need to make sure it is correct before I start, never mind the hurdles to register it here, thanks Ps the car came from Germany USA forces place call guttersla Carnt spell or pronounce these German names lol.
It is pronounced Gutterslaw and it is a Coleslaw made from gutter leaves and moldy sauerkraut . It is excellent, I just had some and................oh my........
Have done just that and same plat same round alloy rivets with pin, pop rivet style, this is what we call a ringer, must have been in the 80s as it's been with me sat in the field since 1991 to be fair I don't like coslaw, but good luck to those that do, thanks Steve Gill East yorkshire
All Fieros have the last few digits of the VIN number stamped on the transmission and the engine, usually back at the edge of the block where the tranny bolts on, above the starter. There is a metal plate attached to the metal substructure under the dash, removing the driver's side speaker should gain access to that. The door sticker with tire info on the driver's side door will have the complete VIN on it. 87-88 Fieros have VIN stickers on all the major body panels as well as the aforementioned locations. The RPO decal on the left front wheel well will have the VIN on it also.
Thanks I will look at the engine, trans, I removed the black magnisium panels on either side of the boot, deck, truck lid, which ever and there's a very clear date code cast into the metal showing these were produced in October 1983, non were ticked in the 84, 85, so based on the assumption of this and first year high production these would have been fitted to a car before 1985, maybe in the UK car theft was and still is rife, and riveted vins went out in the early 70s due to identity being swapped on stolen cars, there is some paper work in the console locker with I think the guys name on it and a pass to the military base, but I thank you all for your help, il get back to restoring my t top 88 now, also been ours since 1990 in much better shape.
I have sanded the gearbox where it is stamped above the starter and the photo shows, 2 E 23178 , there is what looks like a random small circle between the E and the number 2 there is a number on the bloc but in - 4 it's a it numbing on the fingers sanding though lol
I have sanded the gearbox where it is stamped above the starter and the photo shows, 2p E 231784 , there is what looks like a random small circle between the E and the number 2 I've put a p letter there as it sort of looks like one, there is a number on the bloc but in - 4 it's a it numbing on the fingers sanding though lol, there is a aluminum plate riveted on the left side of the head lamp mount which also shows these numbers starting 84 01A 237 pm p 2E 231784, next line, 40L 40U clear, next line13D AR9 AD3 is this any help, is it a early car? If there's someone on watsapp I could send images to help if interested thanks.
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If there's someone on watsapp I could send images to help if interested thanks.
Why not upload and post the images right here in this thread? Use the Upload Media tab at the lower left corner of the window where you type in your posts.
I have sanded the gearbox where it is stamped above the starter and the photo shows, 2p E 231784 , there is what looks like a random small circle between the E and the number 2 I've put a p letter there as it sort of looks like one, there is a number on the bloc but in - 4 it's a it numbing on the fingers sanding though lol, there is a aluminum plate riveted on the left side of the head lamp mount which also shows these numbers starting 84 01A 237 pm p 2E 231784, next line, 40L 40U clear, next line13D AR9 AD3 is this any help, is it a early car? If there's someone on watsapp I could send images to help if interested thanks.
40L 40U are the upper and lower paint codes, for White.
13D AR9 AD3 etc. are RPO codes for options the car came with
The air conditioning lines are 100% 1984 only, so are some of the other parts I can make out through the rust. Looks like it was VIN swapped at some point. Not sure about the legalities over there, but here that would be a BIG no-no.
