those do look great, but they aren't originals...Originals, the button is angled, just found this out today..I was wrong too...who knew lol




Will

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here is a shot of the cutoput the button goes in

So since the last update, we've been working on finishing up the details.

The 1st 2 galons of Lizardskin were used up the last time we talked about that. We had to get more to do the wheel wells & a few other parts.







We installed the poppers on the doors (in process pic)...



With the front & rear clips off to do the lizardskin, we did come cleaning & installed the breathers & coil covers.













Then it was time for the FUN stuff........

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Archie

OK your missing the grab handle on the passenger side of the console across from the shifter

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Archie

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Drip. Drip....

Yes, there was just a little bit of rain late in the day.

Archie

quote Originally posted by Tony Kania: Drip. Drip....

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quote Originally posted by Archie: Yes, there was just a little bit of rain late in the day. Archie

I've gotta think it was raining all day. We are going to miss this project, please update the thread when the owner gets the paint done!!!

Now for the $64,000,000.00 dollar question, how do you top this???

Cheers Beers n Gearz. Joe

You mean the owner didn't attend the show?

Archie, you are a true legend!

Cordially,
Kevin

Amazing build, Archie (and crew). It's been a pleasure following it.

You do realize you will have to change the title of the thread to "The Muira project - start to finish".

Bob

The interior? WOW... I just slipped on my drool...

this car is even better in person. we got to Archies thursday am and got to help out a little on this car.
my hat is off to all of you, Archie, Rob and Chris
it was great to see all of you again. I look forward to my next visit.
D.

We're back to working on the odds & ends we got to do.

The biggest thing is the door locks.

The ones we ordered on EBay (the expensive ones) did come in. As anyone who's built a car like this can tell you, many times using original parts is not as easy as some would think.

Here's what we've got so far......

On the new locks, we were hoping that pushing in the button was going to move the lever on the side of the lock up & down.



But, instead, pushing in the button extends the rod out the back of the lock.



We were also hoping that the lock it'self was internally locking. In other words we were hoping that when the key was straight up & down (unlocked) the button would push in & it does that. BUT, it pushes in no matter what position the key is turned. We were hoping that when the key was turned horizontal that it would lock the button so it wouldn't push in...... NOT the case.



As it turns out, on the real carturning the key moves the lever on the side of the button assembly. The action moves a tie rod that connects to another device ..... see part numbers 4126483 & 4180040 on the top of this page http://www.miuraworkshop.com/tavdoordetails.html_ (http://www.miuraworkshop.com/tavdoordetails.html) The actual locking takes place in that device & locks a lever sticking up from it. This lever extends up behind the buttons we have & prevents the button from being pushed in when this device (4180040) is locked.

As you may recall, doors on cars back in the '50's & '60's did not lock from the inside. This means that even if you had it locked from the inside, it would still unlock & open when you pulled the inside door release lever. This function is accomplished on these buttons, when you turn the key to lock the lever in the 4180040 device & you remove the key. In these pics you can see that the lever is free to move up & down without the lock cylinder (key) being turned. You see that once you've locked the door with the key, the actual locking is in the 4180040 device. So if you have the locks engaged then the action of opening the door from the
inside turns the key slot vertical (if it's not already there).





This is what we are thinking now.....We are going to have to convert these button assemblies to electronic use with the pushing in action of the button activating a micro switch to pop the door open & as a locking device, we are planning to use a toggle switch that will be activated on & off by the lever on the side of the button. The toggle switch will turn on & off the power to the micro switch.

These pics of the fitting of the button as of the EOD Friday. We have to keep the lock assy. as far back in the door as we can so that it clears the back edge of the window as it goes up & down.





This one is looking down into the window channel with the window & dew wipes removed.



These buttons will have to activate a micro switch to open the door electronically. And we will have to connect the locking lever on the side to a toggle switch to turn off & on the power to the micro switch. Today, we figured out how exactly we were going to do that.

The micro switch (top) & the toggle switch (bottom) mounted to the inside of the door. The door panel will fit over these.



The micro switch looks like this & the lever is routed inside the window channel to reach the tip that extends out from the button.



Looking inside the window channel, hopefully you can see the workings......





Archie

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update....

1st to take care of old business....

Someone pointed out that I hadn't posted any pics of the gages installed in the car. So I took these...





This week, we finished the lock assemblies & assembled the doors for the LAST time.

The finished lock assemblies are looking pretty good & work great.









We put Lizardskin on the insides of the doors & went on to assemble the doors. Here we've installed the outside dew wipe, the inside dew wipe & the bracket that is the mount for the top of the window assembly mount plate.



This inside window mounting plate carries the inside door handle, power window operating assembly & the window.



As we've been final installing all the items on this car, I also been shooting video of the assembly process. I'll be editing the video into what I call the Owners Video. I do this on almost all of the extreme builds & give a copy to the cars' owner. That way, if something needs to be services down the road, the video will help to tell the person working on the car how to take it apart & put it back together.

Rob & Kris did an excellent job of executing our concept of how we intended to get everything inside the doors & making it all work & yet be easy to service. We are very proud of how we did the doors with all the stuff inside of them & we documented all of it for future reference in the Owners Video.

After installing all of the hardware inside the doors, we installed the door panels.







On another note, during the initial driving of the car, we felt that the original front coil overs needed to be stiffened up a bit. So we changed the springs from 300# to 350#.





Archie

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quote Originally posted by Archie: update.... 1st to take care of old business.... Someone pointed out that I hadn't posted any pics of the gages installed in the car. So I took these... Archie

Gotta love those gauges and dash. What are the various functions for the lights--like the one between the speed and tech cluster and the ones below the center gauges?

quote Originally posted by madcurl: Gotta love those gauges and dash. What are the various functions for the lights--like the one between the speed and tech cluster and the ones below the center gauges?

Between the speed and tach is the turn signal indicater. Back in the olden days many cars had only one indicater. We had to wire in 2 relays to isolate the 2 Fiero indicater signals to use only one indicater.

Under the six pack of gages, we have from Left to Right...

Green - Parking lights on indicater
Blue - Bright light indicater
Amber - Check Engine Light
Red - Handbrake indicater light
Red - Engine overheat light.

Archie

HI all

What is the Lizard Skin for, on the body panels? A true great treat, that u share these build threads with us Archie!

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quote Originally posted by pavo_roddy: HI all What is the Lizard Skin for, on the body panels? A true great treat, that u share these build threads with us Archie!

Thanks

The Lizardskin is a thick spray on sound deadener. http://www.lizardskin.com/pages/sound_control.php

Archie

I'm loving the build!.

is that an overhead console? If so, could you post some more pictures of it?

boy this is a great build of a classic.... looks like the door buttons are spot on, good call....

Will

love the interior...would be great to retrofit it to a standard fiero

quote Originally posted by Erik: is that an overhead console? If so, could you post some more pictures of it?

Yes it is.

quote Originally posted by Archie: Yes it is.

thanks! That is really cool would it fit a stock Fiero?

quote Originally posted by Erik: thanks! That is really cool would it fit a stock Fiero?

No, I'm sorry, nothing in the interior of this car except the steering column & the turn signal switch would fit in a stock Fiero.

Archie

quote Originally posted by Archie: Yes it is.

What's the function of the metal rectangular item on the upper console?

Looks like a Dome light

quote Originally posted by fourpoint9: Looks like a Dome light

Like he said.

Shop lighting does not do that interior justice... the interior really is beautiful...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FSGVG6Mye-M

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Beautiful Car in a exotic way ! The white dash looks great, but if it were me, I'd figure a way to change the horizontal surfaces of the dash to satin type black so it wouldn't glare on the windshield.

The lock solution turned out great. Had it of been my car, I would have had you skip it or just put non functional locks for looks and door poppers.
High praise for oustanding work in the tedious areas.

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Nice video, but somethings wrong with the audio.

quote Originally posted by madcurl: Nice video, but somethings wrong with the audio.

The sound on my camera works just fine inside when I'm recording video instructions.

Outside, the internal Mic picks up wind noise depending on which direction the camera is pointing.

Life sucks but it's the best I got.

Archie

I will admit that I was a bit skeptical of this build way back when. I didn't think the Miura kit would look quite right. I haven't really been following this thread, but I must say that you guys are doing a great job. It's looking really good. I'll have to go back through this thread and catch up.

Well the owner of the Miura was here over the weekend to check the car out.

Together we drove the car, testing everything as he got the feel for it.

We didn't have much time for pictures but we got a few.

Here is Jim (the owner) with Kris & Rob (the builders)



Someone got a picture of me driving it.....



This is the end most will see.....



We've got a couple of things to do, we did most of them today. All I have left to do is put together the Video owners manual & we'll be done.

The enclosed hauler will be here Friday to take the car home.

I'll try to get a bunch of pics before it leaves.

Jim wanted to let you know that he'll keep this thread alive with updates on the painting etc.

Archie

At the risk of being picky....stock Fiero heater controls!!?? With everything else custom made, seems a little out of place.

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It looks as appropriate as anything else to me. How about the radio?

Ken

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