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quote Originally posted by FierOmar: If you count PIP (Projects In Progress), you can add two; one 88 GT that will use a nearly stock 3.4; and an 87 coupe that will use a carb'd 3.4 that will be built close to ORIEF's specs.

Cool 2 more 3.4s about to be on the road.

I should be finishing up another 3.4 swap tonight.
I will have more pics to post of some of the 3.4 swaps I have been doing. I need to get them off another computer and get back to my high speed, dial up sucks.

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"DRIVE IT LIKE A FIERO"
'84 Fiero, engine to be determined
'87Blue GT 3.4L Swap Completed!!!!!!!!
Las Vegas Fiero Club
Fiero Road Club Of Northern Nevada

[This message has been edited by sardonyx247 (edited 07-30-2007).]

Ok so I put the belt on and it seemed to run fine for a little while.
But the second time I tried to start it it had a really hard time turning over. Not sure why.

Now the real problem, the second time I ran the car, it wouldn't cool properly. In fact, the water in the reservoir in the front of the car was boiling. Yes, actually boiling.
So I am going to change the thermostat. But what else could cause this problem? Also how hard is it to change the starter.

quote Originally posted by Waerloga: Ok so I put the belt on and it seemed to run fine for a little while. But the second time I tried to start it it had a really hard time turning over. Not sure why. Now the real problem, the second time I ran the car, it wouldn't cool properly. In fact, the water in the reservoir in the front of the car was boiling. Yes, actually boiling. So I am going to change the thermostat. But what else could cause this problem? Also how hard is it to change the starter.

the starter is easy, (after doing one) but you have to get to it from under the car. Hard time starting might be just a low battery. when you fill it, open the thermastat cap and the front rad cap, fill from the back, when water starts to come out the front, cap it. Then fill it up from the back.

Make sure you have the belt tight, as a loose belt won't charge right and won't cool right.

Ok, great that seemed to solver the problem.

So, considering that the interior of the car is.. missing is a good way to put it. Can I simply remove the sensor that I pointed to in the picture? Is it just for the gauges that I don't have or does it send something to the ECU?

Also thanks for the filling instructions. That solved the problem.

My 3.4 swap
after several years, time to finish the project.
And a lot of help to read this topic

My Fiero, did you make those vacuum lines? I know there was one member here using aluminum tube to make them up. Looks good, real good.

VERY NICE!
Good work and you will like having the engine painetd silver. (easy to find any oil leaks)

When it's done drive over to Dusseldorf and convince Yellowstone to get started on a 3.4 swap

quote Originally posted by David DeVoe: My Fiero, did you make those vacuum lines? I know there was one member here using aluminum tube to make them up. Looks good, real good.

No I ditn't make those lines, the vacuum lines come from http://www.rodneydickman.com/

quote Originally posted by randye: VERY NICE! Good work and you will like having the engine painetd silver. (easy to find any oil leaks) When it's done drive over to Dusseldorf and convince Yellowstone to get started on a 3.4 swap

First I had the engine painted black, but then I can not see any oil leaks, so I used silver. ( and it is better than black)
If the fiero is ready I drive to Yellowstone!!! I have to try it on the german highway

Some more photo's of last week

First, I need to install the Trueleo and the 1:1.6 roller rockers I have lying around... and I'm bringing the parts for the Archie big brake conversion back when I go to the US in 3 weeks. So I'll be busy, don't worry!

My-fiero: Very nice work! When you find the time, update the pix on your website... :-)

quote Originally posted by randye: When it's done drive over to Dusseldorf and convince Yellowstone to get started on a 3.4 swap

bump!!

any one have a price list or total for how much the conversion cost them? I'm hope to do a 3.4 swap just what to know what the necessary parts cost to do the conversion, and do any of the fuel or coolant lines need to be changed?

I know this is probably a dumb question but should you use the 3.4 heads or 2.8? im assuming the 3.4 is better, and what about the lower intake manifold should you use the 3.4 or 2.8?

quote Originally posted by DarkRanger4200: any one have a price list or total for how much the conversion cost them? I'm hope to do a 3.4 swap just what to know what the necessary parts cost to do the conversion, and do any of the fuel or coolant lines need to be changed?

The first time it cost me under $900 including powdercoating, painting etc.
No fuel lines or coolent lines have to be changed.

quote Originally posted by DarkRanger4200: I know this is probably a dumb question but should you use the 3.4 heads or 2.8? im assuming the 3.4 is better, and what about the lower intake manifold should you use the 3.4 or 2.8?

They are the same heads on both the Fiero 2.8 and the 3.4. They are both the H.O. (High Output) heads.

Reading through my thread would have giving you answers to all your questions.

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"DRIVE IT LIKE A FIERO"
'84 Fiero, engine to be determined
'87Blue GT 3.4L Swap Completed!!!!!!!!
Las Vegas Fiero Club
Fiero Road Club Of Northern Nevada

Sardonyx,

Man, you are my hero.
I was given a link here, and he was right. This has to be the best 3.4 swap writeup there is. Anyone turbo one yet?
I know about the Bird pulling almost 400 torque, and thats what I'll be looking to as my goal.

+ for you man, great job

quote Originally posted by eldervampire: Sardonyx, Man, you are my hero. I was given a link here, and he was right. This has to be the best 3.4 swap writeup there is. Anyone turbo one yet? I know about the Bird pulling almost 400 torque, and thats what I'll be looking to as my goal. + for you man, great job

Thanks

quote Originally posted by eldervampire: Anyone turbo one yet?

Yes

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"DRIVE IT LIKE A FIERO"
'84 Fiero, engine to be determined
'87Blue GT 3.4L Swap Completed!!!!!!!!
Las Vegas Fiero Club
Fiero Road Club Of Northern Nevada

quote Originally posted by DarkRanger4200: what about the lower intake manifold should you use the 3.4 or 2.8?

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Fiero GT 1987 3.4V6 T-top in progress
Buick roadmaster 1956 5.3V8


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More pics as it was going in




A good way to keep from nicking your intake

To go in this 88GT

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"DRIVE IT LIKE A FIERO"
'84 Fiero, engine to be determined
'87Blue GT 3.4L Swap Completed!!!!!!!!
Las Vegas Fiero Club
Fiero Road Club Of Northern Nevada

Another 3.4L swap
This GIRL had her Fiero transported from OR down to Vegas so we could do a 3.4 swap in it.






Here is the bottom end of a 3.4L just compare it to a 2.8 and you will see the difference,
Its like comparing a duke to a superduty.
(anyone want to send me a pic of the bottom end of a 2.8 so I can put the pics side by side?)


The pile of parts to go on the 3.4


The engine going in


And in the car


It went into this Fiero


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"DRIVE IT LIKE A FIERO"
'84 Fiero, engine to be determined
'87Blue GT 3.4L Swap Completed!!!!!!!!
Las Vegas Fiero Club
Fiero Road Club Of Northern Nevada

[This message has been edited by sardonyx247 (edited 10-13-2007).]

Those were some of the engine swaps that I was working on this last summer.
I did 7 this last summer counting mine, well 1 was a 2.8 swap.


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"DRIVE IT LIKE A FIERO"
'84 Fiero, engine to be determined
'87Blue GT 3.4L Swap Completed!!!!!!!!
Las Vegas Fiero Club
Fiero Road Club Of Northern Nevada

[This message has been edited by sardonyx247 (edited 10-16-2007).]

So I know these swaps are usually done with engines that have been pulled from old camaros and firebirds.
looking aroudnd I found this:

http://www.rebuiltcarengines.com/ce06.html

would this be the same engine as the one used but it's new and being sold as a replacement for an s10 upgrade. and if not what would it take tp install this engine.
just a question sorry if this was already discussed somewhere else,
thanks guys

quote Originally posted by McNasty: So I know these swaps are usually done with engines that have been pulled from old camaros and firebirds. looking aroudnd I found this: http://www.rebuiltcarengines.com/ce06.html would this be the same engine as the one used but it's new and being sold as a replacement for an s10 upgrade. and if not what would it take tp install this engine. just a question sorry if this was already discussed somewhere else, thanks guys

That is the same thing execpt that one looks like it has a bigger cam in it.

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"DRIVE IT LIKE A FIERO"
'84 Fiero, engine to be determined
'87Blue GT 3.4L Swap Completed!!!!!!!!
Las Vegas Fiero Club
Fiero Road Club Of Northern Nevada

cool thanks that's great news I'll probably be putting a 3.4 in the next year or so...
compliments on this great thread,
very very very informative

I have alot of pics still to post of the lastest 3.4 that went into MY Fiero. After 3 years and 60,000 miles later. I decided to rebuild mine up as far as I could.
Pics will be posted soon.

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"DRIVE IT LIKE A FIERO"
'84 Fiero, engine to be determined
'87Blue GT 3.4L Swap Completed!!!!!!!!
Las Vegas Fiero Club
Fiero Road Club Of Northern Nevada

Here are the pics of my build, this time around, I added a few upgrades since last time.

My intake with the powdercoat and polish intact. (a little dusty)


The pile of parts to go back on the engine


My new FORGED pistons


I polished the rod beams for added strengh and lighter weight.


My piston, rod, rings, and pin as a set, all weigh within a gram of each other.

Looks good! When are we going to see it with the turbo?

Well, I have finally finished my swap. After starting in March and being side tracked, I finished it this morning. I am extremely happy about this. The best thing is that it started right up on the first try and was pretty much in timing. Although I haven't driven it yet ( Car is at my shop), I will come Monday and will post my experience. I will also post pics. Many thanks to Sardonyx and Randye for all the help.

quote Originally posted by alex de jorge: Well, I have finally finished my swap. After starting in March and being side tracked, I finished it this morning. I am extremely happy about this. The best thing is that it started right up on the first try and was pretty much in timing. Although I haven't driven it yet ( Car is at my shop), I will come Monday and will post my experience. I will also post pics. Many thanks to Sardonyx and Randye for all the help.

Thats cool you got yours done, another 3.4L Fiero on the road