This is another interior I really like, it's not as authentic as the PISA or similar (which would probably work better on an F40, since the real car is pretty spartan with CF and seams everywhere), but it's a really nice looking interior:
I think it will. Your car has what maybe 20K miles by now? That transmission is like new yet.
If you drive it like an adult it should hold up just fine. If you turn it over to some 16 year old on Prom night, he'll tear it up.
Archie
OK let me get this straight - with an ls1 or ls2 their Torque is higher than what Getrag is rated for. So if i mash the pedal with either of these engines their is the possibility that i will destroy Getrag. So to be safe i should not try to beat anyone who pulls up next to me at a stoplight.
OK let me get this straight - with an ls1 or ls2 their Torque is higher than what Getrag is rated for. So if i mash the pedal with either of these engines their is the possibility that i will destroy Getrag. So to be safe i should not try to beat anyone who pulls up next to me at a stoplight.
Nope......... what I'm saying is that, as you're setting there waiting for the light to change, you shouldn't rev it up to 5 grand & then sidestep the clutch when the light turns green. I would feel safe to bring it up to like 2000 to 2500rpm & then let the clutch out as fast as you can while keeping your foot on the pedal & pushing down the throttle. Then the next thing you'll have to do is let up on the gas a bit to get the tires to stop spinning.
I know it sounds a bit complicated but it will come naturally after you've done it a few times.
You could take it out with your 12" wide tires and rev it up to 6K & dump the clutch 20 or 30 or 40 or 100 times without the driveline shock breaking it. BUT just like any other car, it'll break sooner or later.
Now there's going to be 20 people who jump into this thread now & claim the thing will break the 1st time out but they don't have one & likely have never driven one.
You remember when you were at my shop. I showed you a set of 345-40-17" that I had once had on the back of my F-40. You'll remember that those carcasses were bald. You'll also remember that I told you that, in the mid '90's, I took those tires from brand new to bald in 5 weeks with a SBC & an Isuzu 5 speed. That was back in the day when the Isuzu was 10 years newer than it is now & a 100000 miles less used than they are now. Your car has a Getrag 5 speed & if I recall correctly you had either 6000 or 8000 miles on the donor car when we put the body on it. The way you love that car & treat it so kindly, I doubt that you have any more than 16K on it now. 16K is notihing on a Getrag, you'll be just fine.
I would rather not try and build myself - I don't like fiberglass fumes and it is way out of my skill level.
But I've heard you make interiors for replicas and have mated your console to the Euro dash. If so i may be interested in your console in the future.
Yes, The owner of this Mera has a PISA dash & made the mods needed to fit my console; he did a good job. The issue is that the radio in the Pisa dash is a little too close to the tunnel leaving very little space beneath. Here's his link:
Hey Ferrobi, what type of material is the front bumbers' black air defuser made of? Plastic or figerglass? I know Norm makes the part so I'm guessing that it's made of figerglass? Enquiring minds would like to know, hehe.
Also: Does your car have this equipment on the front suspension?
nice ive always liked tha f-40 fieros maby il have to stop by norms shop sometime and check out the one he has if he still has it. hes not to far from me
The F40 dash looks similar to the 308 but without the radio section. What do you have planned for the doors? Carbon fiber cards?
Rob
I was going to use the door panels that come with the euro dash but they aren't my favorite so i'm open to suggestions. Something along the lines of carbon fiber would be great because that is what the later F40's had.
Hey Ferrobi, what type of material is the front bumbers' black air defuser made of? Plastic or figerglass? I know Norm makes the part so I'm guessing that it's made of figerglass? Enquiring minds would like to know, hehe.
Also: Does your car have this equipment on the front suspension?
Front air diffuser is fiberglass Suspension is stock and sucks compared to my 88 Formula. I want to do suspension/brakes when I swap engine for LS2. I have looked at HT Motorports stuff and until you mentioned it I had forgot about NAERC.
Ya know Ferrabi you could probably build this dash without using fiberglass, and instead use acrylic plastic, plywood, balsa, & bondo. I sketched the dash using photos from my Ferrari V8 book. The good thing about this dash is that it is not very complex in shape & detail. Foam is easy to carve but you would have to follow it up with a skin of glass & resin. Rob
Ya know Ferrabi you could probably build this dash without using fiberglass, and instead use acrylic plastic, plywood, balsa, & bondo. I sketched the dash using photos from my Ferrari V8 book. The good thing about this dash is that it is not very complex in shape & detail. Foam is easy to carve but you would have to follow it up with a skin of glass & resin. Rob
My list of projects is HUGE - Home stuff, 308 re-build, business to run. So I'm just going to have to shell out some money for the Pisa dash.
You'll be happy with it - I installed their kit along with door panels in my 328. Not too tough to install, but definitely more than a simple one-afternoon job. Allow about 10 hours, give or take.
Real nice. Did he make his own interior? How many different door styles does the F40 have? This one is different from the one above. It appears to be screwed onto the door frame along the edges which will make things simpler.
Real nice. Did he make his own interior? How many different door styles does the F40 have? This one is different from the one above. It appears to be screwed onto the door frame along the edges which will make things simpler.
His is a custom door panel on a fiero - good but not great. Your pic is of real F40 door like this one
Above is what i would like to try and do or have someone do.
Funny, that rudimentary pull cable reminds me of when I used to take the bus to college. Do you have a few more pics of the door? I wonder if the door card is one whole piece. I've been studying a little on CF techniques, pretty high tech stuff that these racers & aerospace companies use.
Edit: I seem to be doing this a lot lately.. But, you said Compomotive makes those wheels? They are one of the best designs I've seen since the Torque Thrust Ds.
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Do you have a few more pics of the door? I wonder if the door card is one whole piece. I've been studying a little on CF techniques, pretty high tech stuff that these racers & aerospace companies use.
I don't have more pictures and I think the door card is one piece. Since the real one has a hollow door - not much inside it - it has the cut out and access to door pull. Now a fiero has all sorts of stuff behind door panels so i'm thinking of making a mold of fiero door skin and then lay one up with carbon fiber. Now i have to clarify that i think the real one is Kevlar material but carbon fiber is fine too. It doesn't have to look just like the real one but a flat piece of CF and interior door handle area (pull + locks) would be nice. Maybe eliminate armrest also.
Hello as said before its Wolfgangs car. Its not built to fit on a stock fiero chassis as its lenghten and cut down in the back window area. As far as I know hes out of business nor do I know where the molds are just that he owes me for three rear louvered windows but that was a long time ago. Thanks Norm
I've been working with 355 type door panels and it seems that the open panel look of the F40 can be achieved without hollowing out the door. The Fiero door card is normally about 5/8" thick, so if you space it out a little along with adding a slight bow in the card you can create an opening with some visual depth. Lining the inside with a darker CF cloth can also create more visual depth. F40 panels are fastened with external screws so mounting would be simple enough.
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I've been working with 355 type door panels and it seems that the open panel look of the F40 can be achieved without hollowing out the door. The Fiero door card is normally about 5/8" thick, so if you space it out a little along with adding a slight bow in the card you can create an opening with some visual depth. Lining the inside with a darker CF cloth can also create more visual depth. F40 panels are fastened with external screws so mounting would be simple enough.
Looks good - nice ideas. I suggest you practice on your CF skills so you can make me some.
I was planning on experimenting with CF. Very expensive stuff. My local supplier had a segment on clearance at $30/yard, but I think I have to buy the whole segment; maybe a few yards. Since the lay of the fabric is so important in clear coated CF parts that I can already tell it'll be tricky working in corners. Most likely will have to use a vacuum bagging system. Hi-tech prepregs actually stick to the moulds which helps lay-up but one thing that I don't have access to is a hi-temp autoclave for curing. Good thing about interior parts is that they're not structural, so epoxy systems are not really necessary. I'll look more into it.
I think keeping it as simple is possible would be better. I'm starting to think on getting a flat sheet of carbon fiber already finished just like the interior pieces you buy to go around the dash like i have and trimming that to the door dimensions. Tricky part will be top - rest of it really could be just flat. I think - maybe. I gotta see who sells carbon fiber in pre-finished large sheets.