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We Build a Perfect Union by Archie
Started on | : 01-11-2006 09:04 PM |
Replies | : 3080 (368296 views) |
Last post by | : troyboy on 10-29-2016 12:55 PM |
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Mar 28th, 2008
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jscott1 Member Posts: 21676 From: Houston, TX , USA Registered: Dec 2001
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| quote | Originally posted by Archie:
Also we liked the idea that it's very likely that the LS7 will be the last engine improvement to the LS series of engines that doesn't involve a blower. So we decided that having the last, biggest & greatest N/A Corvette engine in his car would be unique enough.
Archie
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That's why I like it... with $4 a gallon gasoline right around the corner here in the US, you are going to be seeing a lot more smaller displacement motors with blowers and turbos. I guess I'm old school where I prefer displacement. BTW - I own page 33, and when is Troy's car going to be ready to go off to the paint shop?  [This message has been edited by jscott1 (edited 03-28-2008).]
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03:10 PM
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Firefox Member Posts: 4307 From: New Berlin, Wisconsin Registered: Feb 2003
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| quote | Originally posted by jscott1:
..........and when is Troy's car going to be ready to go off to the paint shop? 
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I believe the plan is to have Troy's dropped off and you're picked up....so were looking at next weekend, I believe?
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03:37 PM
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CoryFiero Member Posts: 4341 From: Indiana Registered: Oct 2001
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 650hp with the LS9? Troyboy, after the LS7 you will have look up corvette shows and find that pack of corvettes you had a run in with earlier  see if they want to play again.
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03:41 PM
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AutoTech Member Posts: 2385 From: St. Charles, Illinois Registered: Aug 2004
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| quote | Originally posted by troyboy:
If any one wants one just let me know price will be around 20,000.$$$$.
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Oh, ok! Let me get that for you.... ....uh.... do you take IOU's?
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04:00 PM
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troyboy Member Posts: 2075 From: Registered: Sep 2005
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| quote | Originally posted by CoryFiero:

650hp with the LS9?
Troyboy, after the LS7 you will have look up corvette shows and find that pack of corvettes you had a run in with earlier see if they want to play again. |
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That would be fun  , but one guy has a Z06 twin turbo ( he's now my friend because he thinks I'm crazy) . The funny part is that the word is out about the LS7 fiero in that group...  I think we have lurkers. But truth be told they are great guy's and have invited me to shows.
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04:57 PM
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jscott1 Member Posts: 21676 From: Houston, TX , USA Registered: Dec 2001
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Mar 30th, 2008
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madcurl Member Posts: 21401 From: In a Van down by the Kern River Registered: Jul 2003
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| quote | Originally posted by Rixthetrick:
madcurl.... this one's for you..
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Wrong person, but his heart was in the right place. ------------------
"Friends don't let friends drive stock"
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02:50 PM
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jscott1 Member Posts: 21676 From: Houston, TX , USA Registered: Dec 2001
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This puppy will have real paint on it real soon.
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02:53 PM
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fourpoint9 Member Posts: 1058 From: Long Beach, WA, USA Registered: Feb 2004
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troyboy Member Posts: 2075 From: Registered: Sep 2005
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| quote | Originally posted by fourpoint9:

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Thanks for the photo shop, but Archie would kill me if I make a change at this piont. I'm just going to wait for the new LED fog lights to hit the market and with the small size they can be place anywhere.
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05:54 PM
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Archie Member Posts: 9436 From: Las Vegas, NV Registered: Dec 1999
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| quote | Originally posted by troyboy:
Thanks for the photo shop, but Archie would kill me if I make a change at this piont. I'm just going to wait for the new LED fog lights to hit the market and with the small size they can be place anywhere. |
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ROFLMAO
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08:28 PM
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PFF
System Bot
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Mar 31st, 2008
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fourpoint9 Member Posts: 1058 From: Long Beach, WA, USA Registered: Feb 2004
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| quote | Originally posted by troyboy:
Archie would kill me if I make a change at this piont. |
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I've heard that story before.
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01:40 AM
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troyboy Member Posts: 2075 From: Registered: Sep 2005
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| quote | Originally posted by fourpoint9:
I've heard that story before. |
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honest, this time I mean it. NO MORE CHANGES... time for paint. I'll be at Archie's for the finale view before paint this month, I'll have Curly with me to keep me under control...  .... Yep I'm screwed  [This message has been edited by troyboy (edited 03-31-2008).]
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07:53 PM
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AutoTech Member Posts: 2385 From: St. Charles, Illinois Registered: Aug 2004
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| quote | Originally posted by troyboy:
I'll have Curly with me to keep me under control....... Yep I'm screwed
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LOL, tell me that aint the truth
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07:56 PM
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Firefox Member Posts: 4307 From: New Berlin, Wisconsin Registered: Feb 2003
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| quote | Originally posted by troyboy:
I'll be at Archie's for the finale view before paint this month, I'll have Curly with me to keep me under control...
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When are you guys coming out? This weekend?
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10:27 PM
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troyboy Member Posts: 2075 From: Registered: Sep 2005
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| quote | Originally posted by Firefox:
When are you guys coming out? This weekend? |
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MON 21 - WED 23
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10:40 PM
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Apr 1st, 2008
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tjm4fun Member Posts: 3781 From: Long Island, NY USA Registered: Feb 2006
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Archie Member Posts: 9436 From: Las Vegas, NV Registered: Dec 1999
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Coming up tonight on the late news: We begin the LS7 swap........ .JPG) Tune in. Archie
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06:20 PM
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madcurl Member Posts: 21401 From: In a Van down by the Kern River Registered: Jul 2003
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I know my rights. I plead the 5th. ------------------
"Friends don't let friends drive stock"
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06:21 PM
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troyboy Member Posts: 2075 From: Registered: Sep 2005
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| quote | Originally posted by Archie:
Coming up tonight on the late news:
We begin the LS7 swap........
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Tune in.
Archie |
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Great news!! This is just what the doctor ordered after one of those  days at work [This message has been edited by troyboy (edited 04-01-2008).]
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07:09 PM
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DL10 Member Posts: 2350 From: Bloomington IL Registered: Jun 2000
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| quote | Originally posted by troyboy:
MON 21 - WED 23 |
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Road trip on the 22nd......................
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08:44 PM
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PFF
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Archie Member Posts: 9436 From: Las Vegas, NV Registered: Dec 1999
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We've done a lot of work to The Perfect Union in the last months. Some of it has been covered here and there are still other things to show you. I'll update that stuff later. Today, it's all about the LSx series of engines in general & the LS7 in particular. I'm so excited about the Ls series of engines that I can't stand it. Let me share some of that with you. All of the LS7 engines are built & test ran by hand at the Wixom Performance Build Center in Wixom, MI by GM & the UAW. The 1st thing you notice when you look at the engine is the tag on the intake manifold. .JPG) Our engine was built by Dale Swenson.... .JPG) Look at the size of those exhaust ports & the Dry Sump Oil Pan.... _1.JPG) .JPG) When we put any LSx engine in a Fiero we have to make a slight modification to the oil pan & we always turn the intake manifold around. So we have to take the oil pan & Intake manifold off right away. Join us for the fun of taking apart a $14000.00 engine.......
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09:41 PM
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Archie Member Posts: 9436 From: Las Vegas, NV Registered: Dec 1999
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10:06 PM
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Archie Member Posts: 9436 From: Las Vegas, NV Registered: Dec 1999
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Archie Member Posts: 9436 From: Las Vegas, NV Registered: Dec 1999
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| quote | Originally posted by DL10:
Road trip on the 22nd......................
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Cool, make it in the morning, we might be taking a road trip of our own in the late afternoon. Archie
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11:26 PM
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Erik Member Posts: 5625 From: Des Moines, Iowa Registered: Jul 2002
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that is a work of art..those intake ports and titanium rods are very impressive. looks like the main caps are diamond cut. They are steel ?? Where are you going to put the oil reservoir?? [This message has been edited by Erik (edited 04-01-2008).]
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11:31 PM
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GTGeff Member Posts: 2033 From: Up Nort Registered: Dec 2001
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| quote | Originally posted by DL10:
Road trip on the 22nd......................
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So Dave, What up with the GBCT? It looked a little dusty last week when I saw it. Troy, I did offer Archie my car as the test mule for your LS7. I would love to be there when you guys show up but I don't think Archie and Mark will have my car ready. Until the Dells, Jeff
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11:32 PM
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Apr 2nd, 2008
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TiredGXP Member Posts: 712 From: A cold, miserable place Registered: Jan 2008
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Thanks Archie, this is probably the only time I'm going to see inside an LS7. I'm interestted in how you are planning on modifying the OPSU boss. Anything like this?  That's the change made to an LS4 valley cover so I could install an LS6 intake.  [This message has been edited by TiredGXP (edited 04-02-2008).]
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01:06 AM
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Ditkaphile Member Posts: 816 From: Rockford, IL USA Registered: Apr 2007
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I just want to say thank you. I get to sit here and read about a freakin' LS7 being put into a bitchin Fiero (rhymes with Camaro, it works).
I have some work to do in other areas before I can call Archie, and have enough cash to do it. But you know what? It is just awesome to sit here and read this stuff...there is a "Fiero" God. Thank you for laying the groundwork which insures that Fiero lives...and lives well.
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01:19 AM
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Jefrysuko Member Posts: 3491 From: Oreana IL Registered: Apr 2000
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| quote | Originally posted by Archie:
The fun thing is what you can see with the pan off....... tell us what you see in these pics.....
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I've never seen a dry sump system before but that is not what I thought it looked like. Is it some sort of hybrid system? I thought that there wouldn't be a oil pickup tube at all in the pan but simply a tube connected to the side which sucked the oil out via an external pump. It looks like there is an oil pump which is inside the crankcase somewhere which picks up the oil and sends it to the reservoir tank?
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12:38 PM
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JazzMan Member Posts: 18612 From: Registered: Mar 2003
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In any dry sump system you have to have some means to collect the oil and send it to at least one common pickup point; the LS7 pan basically does that. Oil flies off the crank and rods, etc, and runs to the bottom of the pan where it's picked up. Dry-sump systems are also designed to prevent air sucked in from the various pickup points from being pumped through the block, normally the reservoir serves the purpose of separating the oil and air.
JazzMan
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01:13 PM
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PFF
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jscott1 Member Posts: 21676 From: Houston, TX , USA Registered: Dec 2001
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Wow, I learned something today... I guess all dry sump systems have at least two oil pumps. One to pump oil from the pan, and another to pump oil to the engine.
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01:21 PM
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Erik Member Posts: 5625 From: Des Moines, Iowa Registered: Jul 2002
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would love to see the fluid dynamics of the oil through the slot of the windage tray ..I bet GM has a video
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01:40 PM
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Alex4mula Member Posts: 7405 From: Canton, MI US Registered: Dec 1999
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| quote | Originally posted by Archie:
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Archie |
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That engine is a beauty. Those ports look like my AFR CNC ported ones. Of course they are. Just stock from GM. Awesome!
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02:00 PM
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ducattiman Member Posts: 674 From: TheNetherlands Registered: Mar 2003
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| quote | Originally posted by Archie: Join us for the fun of taking apart a $14000.00 engine.......
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WTF
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02:32 PM
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Archie Member Posts: 9436 From: Las Vegas, NV Registered: Dec 1999
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Thanks guys.
We're working on it again today, so count on more pics tonight.
Archie
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03:32 PM
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GTGeff Member Posts: 2033 From: Up Nort Registered: Dec 2001
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Sorry to horn in but since the recent topic is LS7s: Archie, Here is the crate engine source we discussd for my Stinger II, IMSA widebody convertible project last week. www.katechengines.com/stree.../engine_packages.phpWe made a fender badge for them last year. Just waiting for a good donar car, Katech's vendor discount, and my Powerball winnings.
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10:18 PM
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Archie Member Posts: 9436 From: Las Vegas, NV Registered: Dec 1999
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TiredGXP: Yes the modification to the valley cover is similar to yours. We only have to do this mod when we turn the intake around on the LS2, LS3 & LS7. On the LS1 & LS6 the oil fitting is a lot lower and a simple fitting can be used to turn the OPS away from the intake. We modified this today (along with the oil pan) & I took them over to be welded. Was  .JPG) Now .JPG) On the oil pan there are 2 holes just above the Oil filter.....  One is oil out & the other is oil in. On every LS engine I've seen so far GM just puts a cover on those holes (pictured above) that just turns the oil around to go back towards the oil pan. This cover is in the way of the only place we can mount a starter. So we drill a hole inside the oil pan to bypas the need for this cover & then we weld the holes closed. I don't have good pics of this mod on Troy's oil pan today so here are a few pics from my files. These are from Doc John's car. .JPG) .JPG) We also got a lot of prep done on the new engine cradle & we've got the underside of the chassis almost ready for paint. Archie [This message has been edited by Archie (edited 04-02-2008).]
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10:37 PM
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Archie Member Posts: 9436 From: Las Vegas, NV Registered: Dec 1999
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10:44 PM
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Firefox Member Posts: 4307 From: New Berlin, Wisconsin Registered: Feb 2003
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That's one way to change brake pads.....
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11:12 PM
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