I take my prior post back, they are directional and they are going the wrong way. At least they are in that picture, I don't know if you've corrected that since. Are you running Goodyear Tripletreds?
I'm really interested in seeing what areas of the cradle/frame you have reinforced for the extra torque. Any chance of some elaboration or maybe some pics?
They are F-1's and are directional,I just through one on for the picture and picked the wrong side.It goes on the right side.
To reinforce the cradle we used a 1/4 inch plate on the right side of the cradle going all the way front to back and used it to mount the front engine mount.Then used 1/8 inch plate to connect the open areas on the cradle like the area by the parking brake cables and welded any unwelded spots on the frame and touched up any welds that didn't look strong.In other words we boxed everything in for strength.
Don
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Did you reinforce any parts on the car? ie: where the cradle mounts to the chassis in the front or strut towers ect. Thanks for the info. Can't wait to see this monster run.
Claytonto,I didn't add anything to the strut towers or where it mounts on the firewall.On my Too Far Fiero I pulled a lot of wheelies and it never moved anything there, so I feel there isn't going to be more stress than that.Sometimes welding on things actually weakens it even though you add more iron. Looks like you got a good project going there,Archies a good man to do the work. Don
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Thanks, I checked out some of your old threads and vids on "Too Far" and Wow, that thing launches hard. If you didn't break anything pulling the front wheels of the ground I don't think I have anything to worry about yet. Keep up the good work, I'm excited to see what that LSX is going to do.
You better let GM Performance know that, because they are still calling their LS series racing event the "LSX Shootout" and have called it that for years. No little "x" there, and the last time I checked, most all entrants were using aluminum blocks.
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Little update here,I have wiring to do yet,but have it done far enough that this Sat I plan on firing it up for the first time.That should be interesting.Got a few pictures here with the car sitting on all four tires that I'm running on the car,so you can see its attitude.Also of the exhaust and rear tire.Theres also a picture of the front wheel with the maker,and thats the same maker of the wheel on the Huffaker IMSA.
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Thanks Paul,I started it for the first time yesterday and it was sweet.Fired right up with no leaks, nothing hitting anything,and the exhaust sounded great.No big fibrations from the engine,so the mounts worked out good,and the engine has a little give like I wanted it.Just have to finish the wiring for the gauges and put the dash and console back together and get it aligned.Then on the road for break in.
Don
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Don, Is this going to be the most powerfull street legal Fiero in the world?? I dont know of any other 600+whp Fieros.. I am not sure what kind of HP FieroX is making, but I suspect the LSX will make more power than his setup.. You must getting excited to get her on the road and see how she drives..
Don: Great install. Neat as a pin, powerful and good looking. I guess the thing that I would like to hear about is the way the car puts the power to the ground and the way that the cradle and car reacts to the torque.
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Don, that project is really coming together... I am happy that FastFieros of Dallas ( Loyde Rascoe owner/operator/builder ) was able to help you in building part of your project goals.... a High HP High Torque application on an automatic 4T65eHD transmission.
Those LS7 manifolds are the answer to these transverse installs with keeping flow at the optimum. I will be producing those wedge plates soon if anyone needs one.
Motorplates and other parts associated with mating of the 4t65eHD in stock and ready for shipping.
When Archie was installing Troyboy's LS7 he discarded those manifolds in favor of headers ..I would have no problem running the stock manifolds flowwise
One of the nice things about Don's engine build is he dyno'ed the engine before it left the builder. Some 600+ engine HP... Don can now chassis dyno when all the stuff is tweaked and the programming worked out to figure the lose's are, transmission, exhaust, his programming of engine management... If he is lucky, and all things are 'right', he will chassis dyno some number 590 + at the tires... My gosh, that is a big number....
Got the car on the road for the first time yesterday after I had it alaigned.I'm still grinning ear to ear.I still have to update the engine computer for the latest updates,but it ran smooth and just wants to go.It was like riding a horse and kept yelling whoe,but it kept wanting to go.Just a light touch on the throttle and it puts you back in the seat right now.I don't know how I'm going to keep tires on this thing.I'm trying to take it easy to shake it down and have found a couple of things that need attention.I'm running too many volts(18) and I have to burp the engine some more.But thats it,so far so good.
Don
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I'm planning on being at the Dells show to see all the other neat builds.The LS7 that Archie put in should be very interesting,always nice stuff coming out of that shop.
Don
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I'm planning on being at the Dells show to see all the other neat builds.The LS7 that Archie put in should be very interesting,always nice stuff coming out of that shop.
Don
the Dells is looking better and better all the time at least 2 LS cars! I am going to cry with Joy I look forward to seeing you there D.
Got the car on the road for the first time yesterday after I had it alaigned.I'm still grinning ear to ear.I still have to update the engine computer for the latest updates,but it ran smooth and just wants to go.It was like riding a horse and kept yelling whoe,but it kept wanting to go.Just a light touch on the throttle and it puts you back in the seat right now.I don't know how I'm going to keep tires on this thing.I'm trying to take it easy to shake it down and have found a couple of things that need attention.I'm running too many volts(18) and I have to burp the engine some more.But thats it,so far so good.
Don
Man that sounds great Don, Your car is going to be one sick puppy .
Congradulations Don.. You had some very tough competition and I was so glad to see you win one of the main voters chioce awards (big trophys).. In a way you won three trophys since your old car brought home 1st place as well beating out the Prezzzz.. Even though we were the only two in the competition he now has a goal for next year
Your wife was mentioning your trophy wall was full and now you need to start a second wall, I think she better clear the whole wall for all the new trophys you will be bringing home with that amazing car you have created..
Edit: My wife took this picture of you with a big smile recieving the big trophy...
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Heading off to the Don Miller show tomorrow in Madison.Everything is working fine and just putting a few miles on it and working with getting the transmisson to shift the way I want it.The PCS computer is easy to work with. Don
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Really nice car. The "Most Extreme" Thanks for all the advice at the Dells. I hope to see you next year.
...and I can't wait to see some track action footage from this baby.
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Gorgeous, as usual. You never disappoint. Don't really care what the dyno says but I'm dying to see a time slip.
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Originally posted by Erik:
proof?
2008 GM Performance Parts Catalog, Page 262.
LSX Block p/n 19166454
"The LSX Bowtie blocks were introduced in 2007. They are cast from a more durable, stronger cast iron than production iron blocks. Stock bore size is 3.99" with .010 stock for honing to 4.000". This is the siamese bore block with a recommended max bore size of 4.200"."
The full description is on pages 272-273. You can also get it in a tall deck version p/n 19166097 that with machining can go to a 4.500" max stroke which with a 4.2" bore would make a 498 cid small block. With a 4" bore it would be 452 cid.
I got my trunk side LS7 exhaust manifold adapter done finally. 20 new tools, and learn alot more about MasterCam again. Mine has very good angle to achieve port matching, and keep velocity on the exhaust gases ( I hope anyway )....
Loyde,looking good,just so you don't kick it out so much that it hits the trunk when you put the engine in.It gets pretty close before the trunk kicks to the back where the muffler was.
I'm looking at getting it on the track in Sept or Oct.I want to get a few thousand miles on it first.Besides I need to let Fiero X keep the fastest title a little longer or he might get dispondent and want to build something else other than a Fiero like the last time. Just kidding Ryan.
Don
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Hey Dean,looking good.It was good to meet you and your neat car at the Dells.Had a good time talking to you and looking your car over.Everything takes time,don't rush it.It looks like you are using solid mounts and a manual transmisson.That means your CV joints and axles are going to take all the shock,make them strong.Things break when you have a lot of power and no give,just a word to the wise.Thats whey I use poly mounts and an auto transmisson.Good luck and stay in touch,if I can help in any way let me know.
Don
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sounds great Don. I am using Archies kit for the install and I will make the axles strong. by the way the car we had at the Dells was Claytons car with the 383 set up the same way mine is. I will keep in contact with you. Dean
I'm looking forward to seeing videos. 
Don I am one step closer to you as of last weekend 
