here is a lil bit of the metal in the rear not all of it is in there but you get the idea. its alot of metal but it doesnt wieght as much as you think. i want it to be strong. but the interior is sitting on the car as well... for reference
no when i got the car it was stock.... i did the stretch myself....... im using the motor and trans out of the 06 grand prix GT... its the 3.8 supercharged v6 what do you meen subframe connectors? could you post a few pics for me... im not sure i follow
Subframe connectors are what you tie the front and rear frames together with to make it a solid frame car the way we did our Camaros, Vegas and Novas in the day for drag racing. I did it four or five years ago maybe longer time passes by fast will look to see if I can find the pictures but I showed them before in a thread somewhere.
ok i got the rear all mocked up and pulled the frames out to get welded and grinded down... then i will epoxy the frames in the car weld the 4 frames together with some braces and 1 1/2 tubing that goes under the door jam. so it will be one large solid subframe... and then fiberglass the frame to the body. .. here are a few pics of the frames you can kinda get an idea of where im coming from..... also the batwings i just got done with... i framed it up and designed a hinge so they will actually be functional.....
just picked up 2 sets of jetta trunk hinges for the trunk and hood.... i think im gonna use the fiero engine cover hinges for the deck lid of the lambo..... and i found a mercedes in the woods with the perfect lambo latches. so ill get those off tomorrow.....
the skeleton is looking awesome ,it should give the body a strong feel,if i were wearing a hat it would be off to you right now sir. you are kicking ass dog
thanks guys im glad your enjoying the build....... first the gas tank can come out the braces are removable under the tank...... next, i just got done fighting the skeleton pieces back into the car.... very tight fit..i put a thin foam strip on all the metal that is touching the kit to keep a tiny gap between them .. now i will connect all four pieces together, then glass them in............. yeah!!!!!!!!! almost time to mount..
ok just got all the subframe connectors done, all the front done and all the rear done... everything is connected..... its freakin solid.... ill get some pics tomoorow
lol well i was waiting for someone to ask that or say something about the wieght... its actually very light. put it this way every bit of the metal im putting on is lighter then one firero door. so im not adding much wieght at all. i carried all 4 pieces or frameing out to the driveway all together at one time..... and it was no heavier then maybe 1 wheel. so its very light.. and its only like 18 guage metal
ok got the body flipped over.... which was very hard to do.... glassing the metal to the kit..... i sprayed expandable foam in all the gaps and holes so its solid.
lol well i was waiting for someone to ask that or say something about the wieght... its actually very light. put it this way every bit of the metal im putting on is lighter then one firero door. so im not adding much wieght at all. i carried all 4 pieces or frameing out to the driveway all together at one time..... and it was no heavier then maybe 1 wheel. so its very light.. and its only like 18 guage metal
That's what I was thinking. It looks like a lot of metal, but it can't be overweighing the car that much at all.
This is an exciting build and I like it because you're doing a lot of things right. It's going to be amazing when you finish it that's for sure.
lol well i was waiting for someone to ask that or say something about the wieght... .. and its only like 18 guage metal
It is fairly easy to calculate the weight based on the weight/ft from the steel manual (I use Ryrsons - sp??) then you would know (+ a couple lbs of welding wire).
I think your alignment is slightly off. LOL. Nice work.
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ok i got the rear all mocked up and pulled the frames out to get welded and grinded down... then i will epoxy the frames in the car weld the 4 frames together with some braces and 1 1/2 tubing that goes under the door jam. so it will be one large solid subframe... and then fiberglass the frame to the body. .. here are a few pics of the frames you can kinda get an idea of where im coming from..... also the batwings i just got done with... i framed it up and designed a hinge so they will actually be functional.....
thats a sick lil bunny........ but i got all the fiberglass on the rear done ill take some pics tomorrow... now im welding up the windshield frame... pics comin soon.. im calculating metal wieght. and im somewhere close to 250 lbs for all the metal i added thats bought the wieght of the stock doors. huh?
yes good luck fast...... ill post some pics of a step by step way to do the stretch the best way................. but i finally got all the glassins done, all i gotta do is finish the wimdshield frame and im ready to mount. pics later today
ok i got the entire kit mounted, all brackets, everything.... i got the hood done, and the latch is just a normal latch off a utility tool box. works very well. i had to straighten the kit, the area behind your head was crook-ed, so i straightened it up but that made the decklid and batwings not line up.... so i gotta fiberglass them. i also got the decklid hinges welded up. here is a diagram of where i put metal for the skeleton, ill get some pics tomorrow. i also undercoated the entire underside of the kit, to protect the metal, make it look pretty, and to quiet down road noise...
now here is my trouble area.... the kit was molded not square, so when i mounted the body the upper rear portion was off... causing the deck lid to no line up.... instead of reworking the decklid, this is what i had to do..
heres before
heres after
glassed in the metal for the decklid
my merc latch ill be using, i made a plate to bolt to it to help with mounting strength
my wheels im using... decided to go with 19 giovannas bc i got them from a guy hard on cash for $300!!!!!!!!???????:::::"""""""""
skin wiped the fender to test the body
i glassed up the blown airbag off the GP steering wheel and put a bull badge on..ill paint it the same color as the car... im deciding if i should leave it or glass onto it to make the bull look kinda 3d in the airbag, you know so its all kinda flush looking
i also undercoated everything under the body..... everything.. i undercoated all the underside of the kit, and all the metal, to kinda hide some of the ugly welds..... now i need to trim all the metal around the hinges, latches, lids, everywhere...get a few more pics soon. also the after pic was messed up here is the after
ok big problem.... i put the wheels on the car to move it and my damn rear wheel fell off.... the hub seperated..... do i have to have the axle in to hold it together or is my hub just shi**y... now i need another asap
ok big problem.... i put the wheels on the car to move it and my damn rear wheel fell off.... the hub seperated..... do i have to have the axle in to hold it together or is my hub just shi**y... now i need another asap
Yes, the rear wheel bearings are pressed together and need the axle shaft installed to keep them together. You should not roll the car much w/o something to hold the bearings together.
It's nice to see more kitcar guys here, the ingenuity you all have is awesome!! Over at madmechanics.com there is a pic of your/someone's car with a radiator on the front passenger side, this your ride or is it something your going after? If your doing this, can you do a good write up with this aspect? Details would be nice, .....
Ok, i'm feeling lazy about reading this thread, ..... Have you reported yet what engine you are going to use?
Oh, and your a bastage! hahahaha, lol..... Even though its far off, I was hoping to do the first front corner rads on a fiero.. lol....
Great thread! Is there a top for this kit?
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ok well today ive been at battle with the batwings....... because of how i did the frame on mine and how i did my hinge, it would open and shift inward pushing the wing into the decklid...... so i spent 3 hours trying every kind of hinge i had.. cutting welding nothing worked...... so as i was about to downshift to defeat, i noticed a hinge inside our cabinet.... i pulled it off and went outside and tried it.. that was followed by me yelling at my wife to suit up and get in the car... were heading to lowes.... i found a 3 axis butterfly hinge very wierd... but i removed the spring out of it.... and it would open up and out at the same time.... so i bought 4 of them... welded them up and presto.. it worked flawlessly.... ill get some pics tomorrow....
here are the pics of the batwings....... i also made a template of my tailight... and made a metal bucket to hold the sonota taillight guts...... this allows me to mount the light so it is removable
ok tomorrow im gonna clean up all the boogered welds, paint all the metal and sand down the fiberglass repair areas........ try to clean it up.... i also have to cut the batwing off the metal where i goo-ed it together so i can level it and glass it to the batwing frame...... finally picked up another paint gun.... i forgot there was some epoxy paint sitting in them so i had to trash them.... but i picked up another and ill hopefully spray my first coat of primer on this weekend so i can start my body work
ok i just got back from picking up my motor.... what a deal!!!!!!! i found an 06 grand prix supercharged 3800 GEN V get this... $202.50... beautiful motor, clean....... sweet... and its a GEN V. ill get a pic or 2 tomorrow... i wont drop it in till body work is done....
Nice metal work.
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