OK i just though i should do a build diary on this... im building a lamborghini murcielago LP640 replica. my base is a 85 fiero 2m4. well first i pulled all the body off, then the doors, then the interior, dash, air box, ect. then i pulled the entire wire harness out..... then pulled the whole suspension, brakes, cradles,ect. the only thing left was just the frame and tub. i then took it to my shop where we stretched the frame 10.5 inches. sheet metal on the gap, and did a very clean stretch job to it. i stretched the cradle once i made a jig for it on the following day. poly bushings on the whole front and rear. i did the beretta brake upgrade for the front, and just got new calipers for the rear. i painted the springs and calipers orange to match the body. now i had to choose gauges....... there are so many out there. the closest i could get was in a junk yard where there lied a t boned 06 grand prix GT. so in order for these gauges to work i needed the wire harness out of the car, so i pulled the entire harness out of the car gauges, air box, a/c controls, hud center, steering column, fuse box, bcm, pcm, gas pedal, brake pedal, door harnesses, window motor, all the switches, radio, everything. now the steering column all i had to do is fab a bracket to mount it up. and push the u joint out the top connector and swap the steering shaft with the fiero shaft, pressed it back in so now i have the fiero steering shaft with the GP yoke to bolt to the steering comlumn. i have the aluminum dash brace with the air box mounted out of the GP and im trimming it to fit tomorrow. now i know this sounds way to much but its not just the gauges. now i have a 06 grand prix just in a fiero. i get the new climate control and a/c controls. gauges, a working hud unit, on star, air bags, and i have absolutly zero conversion to put my 06 drive by wire series 3 supercharged 3800 in,,,, i just plug it all in. also i now will have all diagnostics on the car. all CELs will be legit. im in the middle of trying to get the comp g tapshift to go into my car.... so how many fiero based lambos do you see with tap shift (paddle shifters) and the fastest way to ruin a good replica is old gauges and a/c controls. but i will get pics up of everything once my wife gets her damn camera. but i figured i would share my ideas.... for everyone wanting to do a 3800 this is the best way although it is a whole lot of work but ill keep everyone updated....thanks
the fastest way to ruin a good replica is old gauges and a/c controls
Of course another way to ruin a good replica is to look inside and immediately see gauges from a GM car. All this work so you can have an unrealistic interior? I guess I just don't get it.
Oh, have you stretched the cradle to increase the wheelbase an extra 1" compared with your frame stretch? Otherwise you are 1" short.
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lamo... "lmao" but yes i did stretch the cradle i just got all the suspension components back on. i will take pics tonight hopefulley. the kit is an lp640 kit, im getting it from mike vetter. but the who made it part,,,,, he got the molds from triangle G who shut down a while ago. so T G made the kit. but mike vetter is the bad ass selling them now..... and yes the best way to ruin a good replica is to see gm gauges but. an even faster way to ruin it is to keep the out dated fiero gauges... ive seen plenty of replicas that kept the stock gauges. at least im trying to stay as close as possible to a good replica. if you want i could ruin it by using some honda gauges instead...
ok well the dash frame would not fit to save my life. so i had to remove the airbox and mount it alone. which included plasma cutting alot of **** out of the way..... so hey all i had to do was diminish the structural intergrity of the car..... small price to pay. so tomorrow i have to weld some braces in. i also mounted the steering column with some small modifications to the brackets but its in.
He made an LP640 out of a triangle G kit and it is unbelievable ! Please go see his build thread before you finish your build,..it has tons of great ideas, from working bat wings, to working paddle shifters.
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you have a way of putting it to people dont you katatak
Until I got this XTC, I was not really into the rebodies but now that I have one, I want to do one myself and the lack of pictures does not help me.....lol! I want to see how the stretch was done..... Please....!
<a href="http://s273.photobucket.com/albums/jj230/brandon86jones/?action=view¤t=kitside-1.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="https://images.fiero.nl/photobucket/albums/jj230/brandon86jones/kitside-1.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a> the side
here is the stretch and the rear bracing that will be used for my batwings <a href="http://s273.photobucket.com/albums/jj230/brandon86jones/?action=view¤t=kelsoldstuff082.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="https://images.fiero.nl/photobucket/albums/jj230/brandon86jones/kelsoldstuff082.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>
the inner stretch keeping the steet metal stock look
<a href="http://s273.photobucket.com/albums/jj230/brandon86jones/?action=view¤t=kelsoldstuff140.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="https://images.fiero.nl/photobucket/albums/jj230/brandon86jones/kelsoldstuff140.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a> all the grand prix wiring i took out to clean up
a bunch of air ducts and window motors, ect. <a href="http://s273.photobucket.com/albums/jj230/brandon86jones/?action=view¤t=kelsoldstuff128.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="https://images.fiero.nl/photobucket/albums/jj230/brandon86jones/kelsoldstuff128.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a> the air box
by the way does anyone have some good rims they wanna get rid of
wow im stunned thats not a cheap rebody........GRRRRRR if only i wasent 21 and had a good job. My lil space capsule as my dad calls it will be good enough for now.
That's exactly what I was talking about. I have looked at a few stretch jobs that do not look too good. This one looks to be done right. Very nice. Thanks for the pics.
well thanks guys. i could of done a lil better on the stretch but i did it in like 2 hours at my work im a heavy duty truck fabricator. but the kit is a lil more affordable then people think. but yeah that dsm i got it when i was 16 my first car. it was a non turbo automatic. i raced it around thinkin i was fast and got a 600 dollar ticket so my parents took it away. so it sat in my driveway. so i put a kit on it. then that started my obsession. after like 4 kits it now has a widebody i blew the motor so i put 12 Gs into building and boosting the motor. then i shattered my tranny. an auto made for 115 HP had 435HP didnt hold up so i did a manual conversion on it. ive been working on that think for 7 years and everytime i get it done i wanna change something else. lol if you care ill take some pics of it.... i fiberglassed the whole interior, air cylinder suspension, 400+ motor its, not bad. but this was a GM forum so i didnt think anyone would care bout it.............
anyways update i got the harnesses all laid out with all the components hooked up there are a few places i had to cut the wires to get it out. so i just got done soldering like 100 wires together, i am missing an on star antenna in the rear so im looking for a grand prix around here i can look at.
you should be able to click on something and see all the photos in the photobucket excuse the blck front end im repainting the car so i didnt bother spraying it red yet.
Are you familair with murci-me on the Kit car forum ?? ( Note: you might have to join the forum, it's free, to be able see the pics)
I just read through the whole build thread. Now THAT is the baddest Fiero out there, period. Anybody who hasn't yet visited should go over there and check this out. Thanks for the link exoticse, I saw you posting over there, I am user name veyr0n (just like everywhere on the internet but here).
I just read through the whole build thread. Now THAT is the baddest Fiero out there, period. Anybody who hasn't yet visited should go over there and check this out. Thanks for the link exoticse, I saw you posting over there, I am user name veyr0n (just like everywhere on the internet but here).
Your welcome !
I agree you should definatly check out the thread and you will have your eyes opened and your jaw dropped.
yeah i already did my stretch. but i saw this setup online before. dont remember where. but that is a sick design. i would of went that route if i was doing a diablo. but because of the murcie kit i had to stay with this setup. but im working on getting a building and build these for a living.... after this first one i should have the hang of it.... but i will look more into this setup on my next build which is gonna be a dee-low. but did that setup take care of your bump steer also? oh and by the way that mercie me build........ he is my idol...... he got that car so clean and exact...... the best is the interior
Unless prices have dropped... that stretch isn't cheap.
Compared to what the guy in North IL charges for 6 speed kit (which does not include the tranny), $3000 is cheaper for the stretch kit than the 6 speed (G6/F40) kit for $3500.
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Compared to what the guy in North IL charges for 6 speed kit (which does not include the tranny), $3000 is cheaper for the stretch kit than the 6 speed (G6/F40) kit for $3500.
The Price for the Master 6 Speed Conversion Kit Without the Transmission is $ 3271.00, but your about right once you add the taxes. Keep in mind that the stretch kit you'll need the Porsch tranny... that's way more than a Pont G6 tranny @ $400-500 on Ebay. I really like the stretch for the Redux using this set-up (pipe dream).
Originally posted by madcurl: The Price for the Master 6 Speed Conversion Kit Without the Transmission is $ 3271.00, but your about right once you add the taxes. Keep in mind that the stretch kit you'll need the Porsch tranny... that's way more than a Pont G6 tranny @ $400-500 on Ebay. I really like the stretch for the Redux using this set-up (pipe dream).
Sorry about the hijack. Back to the build.
Good to hear he discounted his price. Also an Audi tranny will work too. I heard those G6/F40 trannys on ebay have issues. I was thinking about the stretch too, would be very sweet. Sorry for the hijack too.
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ok i sorry i had to take a break on this one and do some work on my other car. but i just got done plasma cutting some holes for the airbox. the wires and airbox goes in tomorrow.... pics will come up once im done for the day.
I love the the quality of workmanship on that stretch........I hope mine turns out half as nice as yours!!! Any tips for me??? I know the tricky part is keeping everything square. What's the best method to use?
I should be pulling my motor this weekend, so I can get going on my stretch.....wish me luck!!!
