Firstly, I must say that this build is intense. I'm completely jealous of every aspect of this car. But also, are these gates functional? Sorry if you said it earlier in the thread, I just had time to look at the pics..
Thank you. "Those" gates are not functional, the shifter is just sitting wierd right now. However I'm going to re-make a new shift pattern when I install the 6spd that will be functional.
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Originally posted by BabyVet:
looking forward to seeing how this turns out. I wanna see the F1 finders molded on!! and What are the F1 finders from/for? As for the center console what is that from? Looks good man keep up the good work
The Console is a replica from this (Amida Makes the Full Interior)
and the F1 fenders are from this.
I dropped a few pennies and bought the whole widebody kit from this car (its one of my favorite cars). Shipping across the ocean was pretty rediculous though.
I've got another little surprise when it comes to the dash... It's going to seem just too damn easy to do, and totally change the whole thing
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I've been working on my garage lately, since winter is upon us now. I'm insulating and wiring it as we speak. On the second level I just installed four plugs, four flouresent lights and still to do a few pot lights and also tie in my subpanel out there for this new stuff and a welder plug.
Realistically when thats all done, I'll have no excuses as to why I'm not working on the fiero over the winter.
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That is a nice looking dash, what sort of car is it from? Maybe an 80's era Cavalier?
It looks more cohesive, and classic than the boxy stock Fiero dash assembly. I can imagine that dash, with a custom instrument face, and leather/synthetic dash upholstery, it could go quite well with my idea for an homage to Guigiaro-designed Maserati Bora and Merak. Bora and later Meraks had a dash that looked somewhat similar to that.
That is a nice looking dash, what sort of car is it from? Maybe an 80's era Cavalier?
It looks more cohesive, and classic than the boxy stock Fiero dash assembly. I can imagine that dash, with a custom instrument face, and leather/synthetic dash upholstery, it could go quite well with my idea for an homage to Guigiaro-designed Maserati Bora and Merak. Bora and later Meraks had a dash that looked somewhat similar to that.
That dash is in my 84' project 2M4. It's from an 78-80 Pontiac Le Mans. I'm just building a new one from scratch for the 87GT.
I also have MOORE vents.. for the dash corners! (Also from that Le Mans! Who woulda guessed?)
I think its coming together quite nicely. I'm still unsure as to how I'd like to finish it, wheither I do the face as well as a bunch of other things in carbon fiber, or just paint it and keep the silver accents.. We'll see how the wrap around edging turns out before I make my decision.
Built the framework, hoping to have this dash finished within the next couple of weeks, as I want (and I'm sure you guys are too) to get to work on the F1 fenders! I'm going to need the widebody done so I can mount my twin intercoolers in the 1/4's!
Merry Xmas guys! Thanks for checking the project out!
If I can dedicate a few hours this week, I'll toss the exhaust pipes back on and mount the turbochargers again for some pictures. A friend of mine is making me a custom y-pipe (aluminum) for my dual 2.25" Inlets. Once thats done I can pipe my Cold side and charge pipes! This is going to be one hell of a summer! (Hopefully not a short one with an F23 behind the engine)
Made a new sig too!
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I really would have liked to keep the exhaust pipes equal length / degree of bend, but I decided last minute that I wanted a small but usable trunk. With the proper diffuser, I'm hoping to create a vaccum to pull most of the heat from the center of that rear section (she's going to get toasty! ) and pull it from under the car without effecting the coldside (Which will be infront and behind the rear tires) as little as possible. Should make for an interesting summer.
Do you plan on this being the final iteration of the drive train? I see a 282 5 speed, you thinking about an f23 or an f40?
Think you would ever do headers to feed the turbos?
Do you already have the wastegates welded on? you planning atmosphere dumps? or plumbed in pre muffler?
Looks like it will be a blast, and will probably sound insane!
Chris
When I nuke the 282, I'm going to try the F23, and see how that works out. It all depends on how long everything holds together. I was thinking of saving some cash for a NSX 5spd swap, ( I don't see an F40 in my future). If the F23 holds for long enough for me to get back to my 84 I want that car to be longtudial mounted with the audi transaxle... So for your first question, I really have no idea where I'll end up.
As for headers, I don't see a point right now. The stock manifolds flow quite well, and its not like the set up is really going to be run at massive boost nor are the pipes going to be sure close to equal lengths either. This is more or less a what the hell, why not kinda project. When I get back to it, the 84' SE will be my fast car. I was already thinking about the Audi 1.8t / 5spd longtudial in of my A4..... don't tell the wife ..
Wastegates.. Well look closely at the left one, the dump is welded in right after the turbo on the downpipe. The right one is more or less just sitting close to the position that I'll be installing it. (The dump is the horizonal to the plunger) , I still have to pipe it pre-turbo (They'll both be very similar)
Thanks! Unfortunately for the tips its kind of a pain in the arse if I want to keep the stock location.
I was thinking about these for stock location tips (porsche)
Dumping it
Side exit
or Center exhaust (would be fairly tricky for the 180 turn)
I haven't really made up my mind on the tips yet, but I think I'll just dump it for the time being and do the tips after I decide on the rear bumper... Too many options.
I thought I saw the dump plumbed on the one, but couldn't tell completely if that was what it was. Dumps or plumbed it should still sound great. I know the headers aren't necessary, but down the road with the extent of the customness of the turbo set up some headers would just be a great touch.
I have an f23 sitting the in the garage, being used on the ecotecs with such luck I feel it is going to be a lot better than the 282 at shifting at the higher RPMs, and should hold the power quite well.
I have contemplated the longitudinal mount too, they recommend a diesel Audi transmission, they are rated for a little higher torque and are FWD so you don't have the extra diff in there that would just get capped. Are you planning a stretch on the 84? the 4cyl with the audi 5 speed it going to be pretty long (done some measuring for these in the past, for a 4.2 v8 though ).
Side exhaust exhaust could be pretty neat, West cost is pulling it off pretty well on their turbo Northstar, you guys could start a trend
Originally posted by eph_kay: I have contemplated the longitudinal mount too, they recommend a diesel Audi transmission, they are rated for a little higher torque and are FWD so you don't have the extra diff in there that would just get capped. Are you planning a stretch on the 84? the 4cyl with the audi 5 speed it going to be pretty long (done some measuring for these in the past, for a 4.2 v8 though ).
Side exhaust exhaust could be pretty neat, West cost is pulling it off pretty well on their turbo Northstar, you guys could start a trend
Chris
I have a couple ideas in mind for the 1.8T / 5spd already, I've been going over it in my head. However I've been told that there are guys running 700-800 hp on the stock audi trans. I don't know how true that is, but from what I can tell about mine is that its quite strong.
The side exhaust was my original option, but then I decided that center outlets make the car very exotic looking. However pulling off a center exit on my car requires some really awkward angles. I don't want to cut a hole in my factory bumper because I know its not going to remain there for ever, so I'll have to see what I do for the rear first.
I haven't heard much about upgrading the transmission in the 1.8t/5speeds either, but I have heard that when you remove the function of the rear output it chances what power the transmission is rated to handle, that would a sad day
Anyway, back to the 87 GT, you could try and get different muffler that are in and out on the same side to run central exhaust?
Or just end up with awkward bends, that "late" in the system and still being 3" I don't see the turbos being too upset.
a complete mandrel bent U bend takes up about 10 inches of room, where I need to snake it past the turbos and under the frame gives me only about 3" from the point of return back under the bumper, so I'd have to swing the pipe in towards the rear tire, then twist back around doing a 270* bend to get it where I want it. Then I'd have to custom make my own tips because I only have about 4-5" from where the pipe would go to where I'd want the tip to stick out.
It might not seem hard in theory, but its alot of extra bends and pipe, plus it brings alot of extra heat into the "coldside" of my turbochargers. I kinda wanted to keep as little exhaust work as possible behind the rear wheels there.
Finally got some work done on this car. My audi needed a few things (trans work, a new chip +45hp, an intake +5hp.. got to love turbocharged cars)
I got some more work done on the dashboard, cleaned up some wiring, and cut / installed the passenger side carpet. I even got to see if I could still photoshop like it used to be able to do.
and since there have been so many people trying to see an NSX - fiero... I made one of those too.
Great job as I knew it would be... 
Smooth
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