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RBS in-Limbo (extreme makeover) by Car-Lo
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Packed my bags, tools and moved RBS (Ram-Bunk-Shush is her name) Build Thread down south here where it's warmer

The last few pics of RBS before being butchered up for an extreme makeover (on a budget) ...









One of the last rides of RBS...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VhgDgIHSFyk

Stay tuned for the tear down...

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John glad you finally came over to this side !

We are all dying to see this project as it develops and takes shape.
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Just what are you planing to do jeez.
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Originally posted by exoticse:
John glad you finally came over to this side !

We are all dying to see this project as it develops and takes shape.


Thanks Tony and everyone for the warm welcome, it's great to be here with the top guns

Before any latest updates I want to catch up on this thread and move some pics over here that Tony
posting on " Choptop Chronicles" , so hang on while I move the same pics in order of the build



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Before any more stripping, next changing the rear suspension...



Out with the old...



The old coilover kit (from WCF Performance) changing to 400lb 7" springs from 300lb 8" springs.
Raised rear bump stop by inverting bump stop plate and painting all parts black with KYBees painted Koni red (well, this is on budget)



It was lucky for me to get the bump steer kit for half price from a not so lucky guy who totaled this ride before installing the kit



Finally the bump steer suspension is in, Fred (my brother-in-law at 84) helping me out installing (PAINTED KYB) Koni red struts



Dog in pic: I'm baby sitting Clarence (my daughter's dog) again

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Just what are you planing to do jeez.


Thanks for asking, the overall look will be more Lambo-ish, 2" more chop from existing 2" choptop
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Wow, I've always thought this was a cool car, I need to ask, With as much as your doing, wouldn't it have been easier to start fresh w/ another car rather than cutting this one up???

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One of my favorite cars; I can't wait to see the makeover
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Fred's doing a great job of holding the rear end down......
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Originally posted by motoracer838:

Wow, I've always thought this was a cool car, I need to ask, With as much as your doing, wouldn't it have been easier to start fresh w/ another car rather than cutting this one up???

Joe


A normal person would have started with a fresh start however I have the whole package with RBS that I can play with, ( without doing another engine swap)
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How do you put a thread in your favorites, I wanna put this one in a place I can get some easy access to. BTW what did you use for door handles?

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Clynt is taking everything apart..



I think Joe is right about starting fresh ?



Nice day for butchering





Looks great as a solid fastback



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Originally posted by Letsbuildanexotic:

How do you put a thread in your favorites, I wanna put this one in a place I can get some easy access to. BTW what did you use for door handles?

Chris



Sorry Chris, that I don't know, I' m new here ?

About the door handles, they are there just covered under scoop door ledge, I think I said that right We need help here !
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Chopping the roof another 2 inches? You plan to have a back window or are you investing in some cameras?
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I think Joe is right about starting fresh ?



Nice day for butchering


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Put down the sawzall and step away from the car, this is an intervention. You look like your having way too much fun. LOL I'm one to talk, see how much I cut one up here.

https://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum1/HTML/086876.html

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what you are doing is awesome
I have been lurking on wcf forum for a long time watching your build threads.
Overall, keep up the great work! I originally loved the RBS, but I love the new project you are going with. It'll be much better
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Put down the sawzall and step away from the car, this is an intervention. You look like your having way too much fun. LOL I'm one to talk, see how much I cut one up here.

https://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum1/HTML/086876.html

Cheers Beers n Gearz. Joe


WOW, Joe your project makes mine look "Mickey Mouse" next to yours, that's okay we are all having fun at our levels
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what you are doing is awesome
I have been lurking on wcf forum for a long time watching your build threads.
Overall, keep up the great work! I originally loved the RBS, but I love the new project you are going with. It'll be much better


Thank you so much, the original RBS was okay, I wanted something more exotic looking with sharper hard lines, so I stopped going that direction.

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This got to be the hardest and don't want to do this ever again
Taking off front a-arms, grinding, torching, I was grinding headbolt the grinder kick up into coolant tube and sprung a leak !



Clynt torching a-arm off



Finally all a-arms are off



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Yes I know hang in there, it won't be long for good fun stuff !

Sand blasting suspension parts Blair gave me





Parts painted for $18 (this is a BUDGET build)




Dickman's 1" drop ball joint, it's welded on the bottom side.





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Okay, a little tease (things to come) 4" chop...

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Your's is one of my favorite cars. Every year at the Arlington picnic I have to look and see what you have changed. Keep on going. Great work.
Jim

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Originally posted by bowrapennocks:

Your's is one of my favorite cars. Every year at the Arlington picnic I have to look and see what you have changed. Keep on going. Gtreat work.
Jim


Thank you my good neighbor, plans are to be there 2012
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One of the design features in your car that I really like is the way you continued the curve from the side scoops up to the sail panels. It flows so well. Oh by the way I started a 4.9/F40 6sp swap in my Fiero.
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One of the design features in your car that I really like is the way you continued the curve from the side scoops up to the sail panels. It flows so well. Oh by the way I started a 4.9/F40 6sp swap in my Fiero.
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WOW, I really love to see your project

That design might change, we'll see how everything fits with the smaller sail panels
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Thanks Infinitewill, been on this forum for a bit, never knew how to do that.

 
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WOW, I really love to see your project

That design might change, we'll see how everything fits with the smaller sail panels


Hope you don't mind, I like your design so much I wanted to steal some idea's for my chop top, the quarter windows being one of them, from the scoop, down the bottom door sil, up the door and around the window, back to the quarter, it all flows and makes a cool shape that is continuous, only to be broken up by the widebody on the on the top half of the door. But your mind sort of fills in the blanks, I like it. The other que I like is how you extended the tail light corners to make it flow more with the rest of the car and made them more angular on the sides.

I thought about somehow making a scoop on the hip part pointing down, don't know how it would be done yet, like the Gallardo:



You see that small scoop on the sides, well on the top of the hips. Works for that car atleast.

Well, this is a ways away, still have about 14 miles of wire to contend with from the engine harness, since it's my first wire harness I had ever done it's taking a bit longer than if I knew what I was doing LOL.

Keep up the good work, I'm excited to see what's next.

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Inside joke !



Looks more like Joe's project, but that's where we stopped



I don't know where all this stuff came from



RBS bone yard...



Cutting off lots of fat, it's pretty thick and heavy, looks like a slab of Halibut





Removed 20lbs of fat from rear clip...

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LOL, it's amazing what you can do to a Fiero w/ a sawzall.

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Originally posted by Letsbuildanexotic:

Thanks Infinitewill, been on this forum for a bit, never knew how to do that.


Hope you don't mind, I like your design so much I wanted to steal some idea's for my chop top, the quarter windows being one of them, from the scoop, down the bottom door sil, up the door and around the window, back to the quarter, it all flows and makes a cool shape that is continuous, only to be broken up by the widebody on the on the top half of the door. But your mind sort of fills in the blanks, I like it. The other que I like is how you extended the tail light corners to make it flow more with the rest of the car and made them more angular on the sides.

I thought about somehow making a scoop on the hip part pointing down, don't know how it would be done yet, like the Gallardo:



You see that small scoop on the sides, well on the top of the hips. Works for that car atleast.

Well, this is a ways away, still have about 14 miles of wire to contend with from the engine harness, since it's my first wire harness I had ever done it's taking a bit longer than if I knew what I was doing LOL.

Keep up the good work, I'm excited to see what's next.

Chris


Thanks for sharing Chris, the extended rap around corners on tail light panel, I used sheet metal cut to shape and rivet on back of panel, fibreglass it, drill out rivets and bondo for the finish.
There are many ways to do that I'm sure from PFF pro guys.

What I'll be doing is a MISH MASH of lambos, Gallardo, Aventador and a touch Ferrari



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To get that exotic lambo flavor, we lowered the front 2" and back 2", Clynt tack welding front back together ...





Cutting and bending sides down to meet 2" drop...



Difference between stock and new lower nose and hood

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Lambo hinges...



Clynt welding doors shut



Clynt tack welding



Blair did the deep welding (he also did my 3800SC for RBS)



We have lift off, RBS has wings







They work got them painted, lubed and ready for final install



Installing



Thank you to my Dream Team...
Clynt, Blair and Archie for the great lambo video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NmfwG0CbfT0

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Nice. That is is best because the system includes one single arm. That prevents the top or bottom of the door kicking out with the window is rolled up and down.
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Well, first I was elated to see your thread posted here on PFF. Then I was horrified to see one of my all time favorite (if not the all time favorite) Fieros getting torn apart. Then more horror followed when the Saws-all went to action. I'm anxiously awaiting the resurrection! Please keep us posted!

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Subscribed to this thread. I am anxious to see where this ends. I really liked the look of version 1, and sure I will like it even better once complete (if there is such a thing as complete)
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Well, first I was elated to see your thread posted here on PFF. Then I was horrified to see one of my all time favorite (if not the all time favorite) Fieros getting torn apart. Then more horror followed when the Saws-all went to action. I'm anxiously awaiting the resurrection! Please keep us posted!



Thank you so much and don't be to horrified, it may look scary
The old RBS proportions ended up looking wrong to me. I used the reverse chop for the flowing window line about 1-1/2" to 2-1/2" to rear hips.
I decided to actually do 2" more chop and bring the same flowing window line right down, also using extended windshield for that overall exotic look.

85SEnochie (Terry) did the photoshop showing RBS in nice glossy black.

BEFORE: Actual old RBS in glossy black...



AFTER: Photoshop with the changes... shorter sloping nose, 2" more chop, extended windshield and suspension dropped about 1"



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I think the original chop looked good

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