LOL, maybe its a Swedish thing then, my Grandfather immigrated to Canada from Sweden.
OK back on track, John, I have said it a million times, but the car is looking great. I am assume you are taking advantage of the great weather the next few days. Its sitting at 26 here in Surrey.
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Jetsnvettes: I don't know what sweds are, but I suppose you mean female swedes? The two Swedes I mean are guys, maybe you want them anyway?
Car-Lo: sorry for this, but I just had to...
DOh... Typo lol yes I mean FEMALE. and I did state HER and HER friend....... Just look at the pics of Sharkmans fiero with that model, two of those please OK back to topic.
Car-Lo, How well does that glue you are using stick to the fiero fender? I am curious about after its flexed for awhile I am guessing you used it on the car the last time you did work? I am wondering based on a few things I am working on too maybe it will work for what I am working on ?
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DOh... Typo lol yes I mean FEMALE. and I did state HER and HER friend....... Just look at the pics of Sharkmans fiero with that model, two of those please OK back to topic.
Car-Lo, How well does that glue you are using stick to the fiero fender? I am curious about after its flexed for awhile I am guessing you used it on the car the last time you did work? I am wondering based on a few things I am working on too maybe it will work for what I am working on ?
Is it about Pliogrip, there is a flexible too (bottom pic is not fexible) On RBS1 I used all the wrong materials and it still worked out fine. Let me know what you'll be using so I can use it too
Oh right now I am using the 3m 8115 glue for the basic bonding like your using that stuff for, I was curious out of finding a cheaper product than the 3m since even with my discount still runs me 35 bucks a tube. After the first bond I am basically doing it like you are with fiberglass mat and resin but not using ever coat I just add more resin and glass and if I need to build up areas mix in micro balloons with ground up fiberglass that I grind up in a mortar. The other reason I am asking about the areas like on the fenders is the 3m glue does not stay flexible and were I am going to secure the headlight buckets down I want to make some sort of bedded area under it with some sort of glue and throw some plastic wrap over it until it cures making a nice surface to put 2 sided tape on like used in the sail windows. That way I can bond the front clip to the fenders yet have it removable without having to pop off the headlight covers on my new nose build. I will try out some of that flexible pliogrip were did you get it from?
Oh right now I am using the 3m 8115 glue for the basic bonding like your using that stuff for, I was curious out of finding a cheaper product than the 3m since even with my discount still runs me 35 bucks a tube. After the first bond I am basically doing it like you are with fiberglass mat and resin but not using ever coat I just add more resin and glass and if I need to build up areas mix in micro balloons with ground up fiberglass that I grind up in a mortar. The other reason I am asking about the areas like on the fenders is the 3m glue does not stay flexible and were I am going to secure the headlight buckets down I want to make some sort of bedded area under it with some sort of glue and throw some plastic wrap over it until it cures making a nice surface to put 2 sided tape on like used in the sail windows. That way I can bond the front clip to the fenders yet have it removable without having to pop off the headlight covers on my new nose build. I will try out some of that flexible pliogrip were did you get it from?
So far the body work looks great!
Clynt used the flexible Pliogrip to widen rear bumper, we get it here at Lordco in BC Canada.
jetsnvettes2000 you're doing some extreme surgery there with very nice body parts to play with
a question about the chop. Did you let the windshield stay in during the cuting and then changed to the Mazda windshield? Or did you place the Mazda windshield direct when you did the second chop.
a question about the chop. Did you let the windshield stay in during the cuting and then changed to the Mazda windshield? Or did you place the Mazda windshield direct when you did the second chop.
Hope you understod my question.
No, the second chop was done old school the roof had to be made wider to fit Mazda windshield (top of windshield is 2" wider. We had a donor roof and used front and back roof pieces sleeved into existing roof to make roof wider (rear pillars stayed same angle for 2" chop), We used Mazda windshield frame direct on while tweaking it to fit.
Thanks. I was thinking of the best way to place a S60 windscreen in when i do my next car. That windscreen is 90cm about 35.5" from top to bottom in the center. That will place the bottom about where the hood lock is on my car, if you know what i mean. How far did yours reach?
Thanks. I was thinking of the best way to place a S60 windscreen in when i do my next car. That windscreen is 90cm about 35.5" from top to bottom in the center. That will place the bottom about where the hood lock is on my car, if you know what i mean. How far did yours reach?
Sharkman, tomorrow I'll get that info with pics. What is S60 windscreen ?
Back to play... Clynt is always checking my work (he is too fussy )
Started to butcher up hood #4 or 5
Cutting across hood to bend hood curve slope down
Pliogrip cuts, notice 2x4 on each side of rad to help bend hood when closed
Blocks of wood to weigh down hood, 2x4 still under hood for bending
Using cut off wheel to make space under hood for headlights (I hate power tools )
End of day...
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Howdy!! I have noticed you hate the power tools for cutting! me too so I tried this and it works tons better and gives me total control of really fine cuts, just like you yesterday I cut off the headlight door mounts under the hood!
The right angle grinder came from Home Depot 15 dollars, the metal cut wheel came from harbor freight 6 pack for 5 bucks and the speed cut wheel and the spindle can be found online at mc-master carr they have a bunch of different sizes and are really thin for fine cuts also super cheap. Try them out I think you will like them so much safer using the air than the electric. On the spindle I stack up cad washers to bring the wheel out closer to the end of the shaft making it fit in tight spots easier. NOW GET TO WORK!!!
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Howdy!! I have noticed you hate the power tools for cutting! me too so I tried this and it works tons better and gives me total control of really fine cuts, just like you yesterday I cut off the headlight door mounts under the hood!
The right angle grinder came from Home Depot 15 dollars, the metal cut wheel came from harbor freight 6 pack for 5 bucks and the speed cut wheel and the spindle can be found online at mc-master carr they have a bunch of different sizes and are really thin for fine cuts also super cheap. Try them out I think you will like them so much safer using the air than the electric.
On the spindle I stack up cad washers to bring the wheel out closer to the end of the shaft making it fit in tight spots easier. NOW GET TO WORK!!!
Thanks for the tip, that tool looks even meaner I'll see what Clynt thinks, it's his fingers
NOW BACK TO WORK... Cynt had an emergency with his bubble top, it was over heating badly, so RBS2 was a parts car We installed Champion 3 row rad, rad overflow tank, windshield tank and some brackets all from poor RBS2
Finished with Clynt's ride and we made a rough mock up for front end (the negative zone)
Dexter is the family dog watching over RBS2
Clynt started to fabricate upper brackets for front wing
We had a good day...
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Because we don't have Harbor Freight in BC, its pretty much the same as Princess Auto up here. I've personally never heard of Mc Master Carr but I am sure Princess has similar stuff.
Side note, before anyone asks what the extra bits in Clynt's bubble top are, he is one of the lucky ones to have Electro Hydraulic Power Steering in his car. Not one of the OEM kits, but one he designed himself. Works really well.
Side note, John I can't believe you worked on the car today, it was so freaking hot here, I just said forget it and Lisa, Arianna and I went swimming for the day. When we got back I went to the garage and the garage thermostat read 35C even with both doors open it only dropped it to 34 after a half hour. We were really thinking about going to the Pride Parade today, but just too freaking hot.
OK now you can get back to work, LOL. Car is looking great.
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Great project! You have given me some great ideas. I have read through this thread a couple times and cannot find the tire and wheel specs. Am I missing them? Please post, because I really like them.
Edit: Thanks Dre, I missed it. I am building a Murci replica and an 88 right now, and I am considering selling the murci and focusing on the 88 after seeing what can be done. Great job again guys!
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Nice. Will the pliogrip alone hold it? It seems like there is a lot of tension. The angle of the hood looks much better now.
Not to good, I have to grind off Pliogrip today and fiberglass cuts
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Thanks. I was thinking of the best way to place a S60 windscreen in when i do my next car. That windscreen is 90cm about 35.5" from top to bottom in the center. That will place the bottom about where the hood lock is on my car, if you know what i mean. How far did yours reach?
Can you imagine how well the Fiero would have sold if the Pontiac designers had made it look like your car Carlo? Even though I love the original design, I always felt that it should have been a bit mor "cab forward", with a shorter front and longer rear. Also the original is far too high, with too much space in the wheel wells. Your design seems to be taking care of every one of my peeves! Good job mate!
Car-lo, I don't own a fiero any longer, as a matter of fact all my toys are gone! I must say out of all the construction zone this is the best project that I have seen JMHO! If you ever decide to visit madcurl please let me know as you have to past right by me to see him. I can't wait to see the end of this one. One off and too sweet!!!
Getting ready to fiberglass hood (Pliogrip didn't do to well ) got hood bent and curved pretty good also glassed in headlight openings [QUOTE}
How well did your resin stick to the black paint around the the areas that you re fiberglassed? I had issues with my hood when it came to that so I ended up re grinding down to bare glass to get it to stick better.Especially around the headlight doors, I also had to bevel the top and bottom of the door and hood around the opening seam in a hour glass sort of shape to lock in the headlight door. so it can't flex and crack out the fiberglass. just a thought for ya to consider.
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Car-lo, I don't own a fiero any longer, as a matter of fact all my toys are gone! I must say out of all the construction zone this is the best project that I have seen JMHO! If you ever decide to visit madcurl please let me know as you have to past right by me to see him. I can't wait to see the end of this one. One off and too sweet!!!
Keep up the good work and keep the pics rolling
Thank you so much, you're way to kind, it should be "The cheapest project that I have seen" Yes, I'm planing to cruze down the coast and see you guys, that will be a cool
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How well did your resin stick to the black paint around the the areas that you re fiberglassed? I had issues with my hood when it came to that so I ended up re grinding down to bare glass to get it to stick better.Especially around the headlight doors, I also had to bevel the top and bottom of the door and hood around the opening seam in a hour glass sort of shape to lock in the headlight door. so it can't flex and crack out the fiberglass. just a thought for ya to consider.
Thanks for the tip if you look closely I did grind all the fiberglass areas and I also used SMC resin, I haven't finished the face side of hood yet, but will do that as you said.
Thanks again for keeping a close eye on this clown, he did butcher up too many hoods
If I can offer one suggestion, make that splitter out of steel or something. If you don't want the entire front splitter from steel at least make the leading edge of it. We are not talking about a bone splitter hardness, but WAY MORE than fiberglass and foam. I remember the 3 of us having a discussion about the front air splitter we made for my nose. Clynt said Steel frame, I was on the fence about it, and you said the fiberglass would be more than hard enough, so we "I" decided that foam and glass would be good enough. Well the first little tap / nudge I made to a concrete parking block and I put a crack in it. I am a bit worried about going for my 150mph run with it. At 70mph it works amazingly well, even being a bubble top Fiero there is a noticeable difference / improvement in airflow over the car. Don't ask me to explain it, cause I can't but the car just feels more planted, and with the top out, windows down there is considerabley less turbulence around the car.
So please take that into consideration when building your lower wing/ air splitter, we have high parking blocks here, and all it would take is Once, Just Once to forget that its there or not see it and pull up too far and CRUNCH.
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Thanks for suggestion Capt, I think Clynt plans to have some steel there, we'll see ??
Troyboy has this for under control (Mad Max material )
Hey Capt. do you want to join Clynt and I tomorrow morning to Langley for material and after that visit Blair for Latte ? Anyway we can pick you up on the way there (email us) ?
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just an fyi as sick as this car looks right now not even close to done if ya sell this later on down the road i may or may not make the cross continent trip just to slap ya up side the head with a brick lol great build man this would make a killer kit..... can add this to the list of things i will never get/afford
also nice use of the rad box lol i have the same one
Thanks, the box is finished in silver, blends nice with hood and fenders
Today Clynt and I went to Metal Supermarket in Langley and got nice rec tube 1.500x .500x.065 and after that stopped to visit Blair at this chocolate shop for a latte.
Clynt having fun fabricating front wing frame...
Bolting rear brackets to RBS2 frame (to have wing removable)
Tack weld rear brackets on wing frame
Another good day...
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I am really sorry I could not get out to see you guys today, but Lisa had some medical tests to do, and I doubt Metal Mart would have liked having a 2 year old running around their store. She can be a handful just up at the Chocolate shop. Hopefully you and Clynt are coming to the meeting tomorrow. You did remember the club meeting didn't you. We will have some new Special Prizes to be given away at the meeting. Dr.Fiero has officially closed up the "Fiero Hut" and is donating a few items for the door prizes.
@Exotic are you still on our club email list. If so you can expect a meeting reminder in your inbox, LOL. You could always steel an F16 you could probably make it in time for the meeting. You got 21hrs from the time I am posting this.
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OK back to topic.
You are fearless and braver then most! Thanks for the inspiration!
the roof had to be made wider to fit Mazda windshield (top of windshield is 2" wider. We had a donor roof and used front and back roof pieces
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I'll see what Clynt thinks, it's his fingers 
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