I put my cold air vents in place last weekend on the top portion of the cowl. I will get some pics and post in your build on WestCoast Fieros for you to see. Not sure you will have enough room to do the same thing though as your screen comes out further on the sides. An option anyway.
Looking forward to seeing what you do with the rear quarter panels.
You make it "look" soooo... easy I would love to see you work on your car one day, but I am pretty far I look forward to your updates Keep up the good work
You make it "look" soooo... easy I would love to see you work on your car one day, but I am pretty far I look forward to your updates Keep up the good work
What is "matt board" ?
Thanks, but I'm no bodyman, Don (355Fiero) is the real deal ! I had to ask PFF and WCF club members what materials they use (thank you very much)
Anyway Matt Board is used for framing pictures, matt board is the boarder around photos ?
I took some pics of my cowl air vents I was telling you about. I can't seem to get my photobucket nor PIP to work tonight so I posted over on the West Coast Fieros site for you.
This should let in some additional air into my cowl area since the extended screen covers all the other inlets now. Not as large an opening as oem but between these vents and the drains that are no longer needed given no water gets into the cowl area now, I should get a decent amount of air into the heater box. Time will tell.
I like your mockups of the rear sail panels. I also use 1/4" corrugated plastic board you can get from Home Depot or Rona pretty cheaply. The plastic can be shaped pretty well and then also used as a rough mould as the fiberglass doesn't stick to the plastic.
I moved your pics of cowl air vents here to share (thank you) it looks like I'll have enough room as well. Right now I'm focused only playing with rear end
Another great tip from Don, using corrugated plastic board, went out to Home Depot and got a 4x8 sheet (thank you) I'll be using this for mocking up lower rear wing diffuser (lots of rough templates until it looks right)
How careful do you have to be around those wheels?!? I would be worried about nicking them while doing all that awesome work! They do make the pictures easier to envision where you're going though... Love the sail panel shape btw.
I'm using old RBS doors that had reverse chop about 1-1/2" to 2-1/2", this what it looks on RBS2...
It nice to see that your build is coming out very exotic as a true one off design and not a replica clone. You gleaned ideas from various parts and are making the car your own. I'm digging the rake, A-pillars, doors, rear clip, windshield and hood (everything on the car really). I'm glad to see your reusing the doors too. Keep up the good work.
When needing more curve in the corrugated plastic, I will cut one side of the flat surface between the corrugation sections (if that makes sense), and then carve a piece of plastic or thin wood to the shape you want and tape it to the opposite side of where you are going to fiberglass against. This gives you more dramatic curves and allows you to keep shapes in the plastic as you push fiberglass mat etc against the forms.
You can maybe pull a quick mold off the door panels you are using as well and then pull some fiberglass panels from teh molds to help reduce some of the weight. If I remember correctly, the upper flare edges you had were pretty solid.
How careful do you have to be around those wheels?!? I would be worried about nicking them while doing all that awesome work! They do make the pictures easier to envision where you're going though... Love the sail panel shape btw.
Very careful, I'll cover them up when I start to fiberglass and thank you very much (I'm very happy with the overall look)
quote
Originally posted by madcurl:
It nice to see that your build is coming out very exotic as a true one off design and not a replica clone. You gleaned ideas from various parts and are making the car your own. I'm digging the rake, A-pillars, doors, rear clip, windshield and hood (everything on the car really). I'm glad to see your reusing the doors too. Keep up the good work.
Thank you so much, RBS2 has accidently evolved into something totally different than planed (with that "wake up call" from a buddy in Florida )
A few more overall views, line on tape showing nice flowing line from door to rear
quote
Originally posted by 355Fiero:
You can maybe pull a quick mold off the door panels you are using as well and then pull some fiberglass panels from teh molds to help reduce some of the weight. If I remember correctly, the upper flare edges you had were pretty solid.
Car is looking good.
Cheers Don
Thanks Don, I wish we lived closer actually the reverse chop is half hollow, so it's not that bad ( if I have time to play I'll give it a go )
[This message has been edited by Car-Lo (edited 03-01-2012).]
Wow John, I didn't know you had such an extensive thread going on over here. I have been following you on our local forum. If you need an extra hood or other body panels let me know.
It also looks like I am not going to need this other fastback clip so its up for grabs if you need it. To be honest due to the condition, (a few cracks) using for what you are doing would be its best end of life use.
Lisa and I are going to selling off most of our parts collection from storage before we leave, so just drop me a shopping list when you need stuff.
Your car is looking amazing, I still tear up a bit when I see the sawzall pics of you killing RBS-1 but RBS-2 is going to look stunning to say the least.
David P.S. all your bodywork on my car is not going to waste, I am doing a major tune up on it, installing the nitrous as well and am going to try for Aircare testing in the next week or so. I don't think we are going to have anymore snow here so I fill safe driving it with that fantastic nose.
P.P.S, if Clynt is really thinking about chopping up his nose, ask him to please not kill his current one, I may be able to come up with a donor nose for him to chop up.
------------------ 85GT Soon to be 87GT,93 Eldorado 4.9, 5spd Dual O2 Custom Chip, Custom Exhaust. MSD Everything Capt Fiero --- My Over View Cadero Pics Yellow 88GT 5spd Full Poly Suspension, Lowered 1/2" in front, Corner Carver.
I know you probabley want a "one off" car CarLo, but have you considered making molds of your panels when it's complete? You could probably recoupe a lot of your cost from selling a few sets. Just something to think about. This car is looking SICK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! so far my favorite re-body, and it's not even complete! When it's done I want to see it in person, I'm over in windy Lethbridge, it would be worth the trip.
I know you probabley want a "one off" car CarLo, but have you considered making molds of your panels when it's complete? You could probably recoupe a lot of your cost from selling a few sets. Just something to think about. This car is looking SICK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! so far my favorite re-body, and it's not even complete! When it's done I want to see it in person, I'm over in windy Lethbridge, it would be worth the trip.
Hi Bridgetown, thank you so much,
I have never considered making molds, I'm not set up for that I would have to farm that out to Donny Boy ? Exotices is totally right, you need the whole package to have that look, an extreme chop and a crazy raked extended windshield, I think that's what makes it look sick
I know you probabley want a "one off" car CarLo, but have you considered making molds of your panels when it's complete? You could probably recoupe a lot of your cost from selling a few sets. Just something to think about. This car is looking SICK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! so far my favorite re-body, and it's not even complete! When it's done I want to see it in person, I'm over in windy Lethbridge, it would be worth the trip.
Sorry for the double post, it's the wind from Lethbridge
[This message has been edited by Car-Lo (edited 03-01-2012).]
I know this is not a "bolt on" affair. Many other rebodies require frame stretches and different windshields etc. I don't think that would scare off the serious builders.
Ha..... And Donny Boy has a hard enough time getting out to work on his own projects let alone a couple others out there......
Keep it up John as the car is looking really good.
Cheers Don
quote
Originally posted by Car-Lo:
Hi Bridgetown, thank you so much,
I have never considered making molds, I'm not set up for that I would have to farm that out to Donny Boy ? Exotices is totally right, you need the whole package to have that look, an extreme chop and a crazy raked extended windshield, I think that's what makes it look sick
Love what you have done so far, but not really a fan of the direction in the last few pics. With more flat shelf rear quarters, it is starting to have the hip shape of a testarossa.
I love the swoopiness of the side profile, but I too am having a hard time understanding the intent of your latest panel additions. Is the idea to have a combination of bold creases and relatively flat panels, or is that just a constraint of the medium you are working with? Can you post a rear quarter view of your current styling to give a better idea of the width/depth/profile of the new panels?
I love the swoopiness of the side profile, but I too am having a hard time understanding the intent of your latest panel additions. Is the idea to have a combination of bold creases and relatively flat panels, or is that just a constraint of the medium you are working with? Can you post a rear quarter view of your current styling to give a better idea of the width/depth/profile of the new panels?
Thanks, I'm having fun playing around with designs, not sure what "direction yet " the latest is somewhat of the Aventador flavour ?? If I go for it, the panels won't be flat (that was just for mockup), I'll be using polyisocyanurate foam sheet sanded to have a bit of a curve to it.
Today I'll be tweaking the overall design and see if it's a go (if not I'll go back to the old boring RBS body parts) I'll shoot rear to side views for more visualizing and post tonight.
quote
Originally posted by fieroguru:
Love what you have done so far, but not really a fan of the direction in the last few pics. With more flat shelf rear quarters, it is starting to have the hip shape of a testarossa.
Thanks for the feedback, that's what I need to hear I did trim down the flat shelf a bit since and we'll see tonight if it's a go or not?
[This message has been edited by Car-Lo (edited 03-11-2012).]
Thanks for the additional pictures. The flatter panels with the pronounced crease will look fine IMHO. It's tough to do justice to some cars in photos... many of them look much better in person so you shouldn't rely too much on our comments That said, my only other question is whether you would continue the flatter and creased look somehow into the front fender as well, or keep it rounded.
So John, I cleared it with the wife to Play Fiero's this weekend, you want to come out on Saturday or Sunday to grab the panels. Side note, we have a new younger member in the club that has been following your car closely and wants to eventually do a similar choptop to his fastback. So next time you are at a club meeting, remind me and I'll introduce you to him. You got my cell number, drop a line tomorrow so we can set up a time.
------------------ 857GT Part 85GT Part 87GT Part Caddy, 93 Eldorado 4.9, 5spd Dual O2 Custom Chip, Custom Exhaust. MSD Everything Now with Nitrous. Capt Fiero --- My Over View Cadero Pics Yellow 88GT 5spd Full Poly Suspension, Lowered 1/2" in front, Corner Carver.