I've been doing a build over on MM since Feb 2014, a few guys have told me I should post over on Pennock's, so I'll try to copy it over Enjoy! My modified Ferrari 288 GTO Project!
I went in a different direction in my 308 build. I finally had the kit attached to my Fiero frame lined up pretty good. But I have caught a bug from a fellow builder Don here in Victoria. I think I'm going to modify it into a 288 GTO. as I just love the lines.!! I really like the Koneig modded 308 lower duct and rocker/running boards so I'm going to try to add these to my 288GTO,
Now if I can just figure out how to post pics to this thread!!
Wayne
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Ok figured it out, so this is where I started on the project, the kit was produced by EVM Rob one of the contributors on Pennock's I mounted the body on a 87 Fiero GT that I totally rebuilt front to back. the 3800 SC is out of a 2002 Grand Prix GTP with 50000 Klm's on it trans is a 4t65HD from same donor. I dropped in a medium cam and added a 3.2 pulley with ZZP intercooler and billet fuel logs MDS Ignition module. Coil overs from West Coast Fiero's. The car is running so it can be moved around as needed. Enjoy
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My work space is very limited so it has been a challenge to say the least. I started working on the passenger side of the car working from 3D and and pic's on the internet. when I initially started I was using white construction styro as I was unable to find the proper foam but very quickly I found what I needed and was off to the race.
I then decided I really liked the Koening 308 Ferrari lower scoop and running board so decider to incorporate that into my build. [img]http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e12/dobie44/2014022 6_1508110_resized3_zpsc2247f22.jpg[/img]
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The 288 GTO's back end is quite abit different than the 308 and although Rob's 308 kit is similar looking it needed to be modified to make it work for the 288. The following is the mod I did to the back to make it work for me putting in a 2" drop on the belt line and removing the exhaust area, and building in the new lower valance/ exhaust .There was a twist in the bumper area that also had to be fixed so I did this at at the same time.
Then I had to come up with a new deck lid as again the 288 and 308 are different . The deck lid has not been completed but it will give you a rough idea of where I'm going with it. Later on in the build Aug 2014 I've had to do some other changes (I'll post some pics latter on those changes) as it wasn't fitting correctly.
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There's a few pics I haven't seen yet. Thanx for sharing, Wayne.
Paul, not speaking for Wayne, but that's the front bumper. I've removed it on mine for that very reason and will be replacing it with a bar/tube higher up under the nose.
PaulJK Thanks for looking ,actually the rad your looking at is the one for the inter cooler .But I will certainly be looking into what both you and Bob have done. I had thought that myself but As I eluded to I'm very limited in space in my garage so made the decision to work on the back clip first and then I plan on flipping the car around this winter and building out the front. I Plan on doing the mod that 355Fiero AKA Don has done on his making it more Ferrari like including the headlight conversion. Hea Bob Glad you like them!! It looks like I still have a problem with posting my pics though, I'm put the links in, the first one worked but not the rest?? Back to the drawing board. I hope to finish off the last of the fiberglass tie in today if the rain holds off. Wayne
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...edit: I take that back. It did not work. Hmmm???
Bob
PS, I'm doing the same thing. I'm working on the back due to limited space. Once I'm happy with it, I will spin the car around and finish the front and start the passenger side.
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I was getting close to what I thought was the final design when a contributor MacGyver from MM's I suggest that I feather your wide body transition into the doors as well. he thought the steep curves I had were not flowing into the door skins and would give the appearance of pasted on panels. So after so deliberation I took out the tools and started back to work taking out the white foam and replacing it with resin compatible board foam extending it into the door. At the same time I carved out some more styro and replaced with expanding foam. Enjoy. Wayne
Then the decision came on the lower scoop shape and design
Then a few changes to the upper scoop and voila`
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But in order to complete the back end I had to build out the Drivers side of the car!! This time I was learning from the build on the left side and started at the belt line.
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Then I needed to do the Rear bumpers up and they would have to be removable because the rear clip had to be removed for finishing (remove the old 308 panels and foam once I had glassed everything.
Then the day arrived with the help of my mentor MR355 (Don) we started to glass the rear clip of the car. The plan was to do 4 layers of 1 1/2 OZ glass matt on the out side then remove the clip and cut out the old panels and remove the foam and then 2 more layers of glass to tie it all together.
Once that was all completed Yea!!! Don helped me to remove the rear clip so I could start to finish the rear clip
First I wanted to finish off the lower ducts
Then it was time to clean up the back end of the clip , I used expanding foam cleaned it up and then glassed the whole area. The plan is to paint it black to finish it off.
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The 288 has a additional fill vents on the underside of the rear valence one on each side,so the next step was to try to come up with something that would look and work properly. I happened to have a couple spare Fiero engine compartment vents that I though I could perhaps use as a mold so I cleaned them all up sanded and painted them so I had a clean surface. The first one I just used a few layers of 1 1/2 oz mat with a layer of finishing glass on top, it worked ok but I thought it needed more strength. So the next one I built using a layer of carbon fiber sandwiched between layers of matt with a layer of finishing cloth over top that was the answer very ridged and strong. SO I had to add some carbon fiber to the first one to give it some rigidity. Enjoy
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As I eluded to earlier I needed to modify the engine hood as it wasn't fitting correctly, first I needed to remove the licence plate lights holder as the 288's are mounted on the bumper sides. Then I needed to cut the inside of the glass hood (the part that seals to the stock Fiero trunk) as it was touching without a rubber seal so I need to take at least a 1" off . The 288 has additional vents where the turbo intakes are so taking the inside off allows me to work on the vents I have other priorities right now so this is still a work in progress.
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Thanks Mickey Moose ...about all I have to say, keep up the good work...
Thanks of looking Mickey M I'm still amazed at how much time is takes to build a car, when I first started I figured it would be a year maybe maybe 15 months but when I see how much time it takes to move forward so little I'll be lucky to finish in 3 years. LOL Wayne
Originally posted by dobie1: I'm still amazed at how much time is takes to build a car, when I first started I figured it would be a year maybe maybe 15 months but when I see how much time it takes to move forward so little I'll be lucky to finish in 3 years. LOL Wayne
Well for those of you that have read my build you are almost up to date!!! I competed cutting out of the old panels and removing the foam, I then added two more layers of 1 1/2 oz mat to seal the old and new so that is now 6 layers of glass mat!!
I am currently building and installing the scoops for the lower duct ,I sandwiched carbon finer in-between 1 1/2 oz matt
Having the rear clip off really makes it easier to work on areas like the rear sharks vents!!
I was able to get the ducts assembled and installed today, I hope to get them glassed in tomorrow. I still need to extend the inside edge of the ducts to close it in. So then I will need to finish off the rear fender vents do some body work and I can reinstall the rear clip on the car. That will be a milestone I'll be able to fire up the car and turn it around to star on the front Yea!!! winter project here we come...
Well I'm back at it ,my wife and I took a quick trip down to Vegas for 4 days, it was a nice break but I was eager to get back to the project. I decided I wanted to make the lower intake have a longer flow which takes it into the door, so I need to cut out a bit of the lower door jam. I then need to finish the lower intake side panel. I think it turned out pretty good makes the intake look big and meaty. I hope to finish the drivers side tomorrow.
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It is getting a bit harder to work on the car with the unsettled weather and the need to keep things dry. I built a small shelter to work under but have a 10x10 one with sides coming. It is progressing but I may have to leave it out side for the winter as I still need to finish it off before it is installed permitaly. I't is really a lot easier to work on when it is off the car and I want to get it right. I need to get the car flipped around so I can work on the front end over the winter. Here are a few pic for a update.
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Wow! Amazing work! Along with the F40 and the 308, the 288 GTO is my favorite Ferrari. Those three are basically from the same body style. I'll be following this thread. Keep it up!
I don't know that I've ever noticed the 288 before, but it has really stood up better over time, IMO, than the 308. The rear is so much more refined looking. The side profile is more aggressive too.
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Thanks Guys, it has been a lot of work but I'm having a blast, luckily I'm retired and can put time into the project. I have a bunch more pics of the front end build which I'm working on now, I hope to post a update soon.
I didnt have time to look thru all your pics. 288 is one of my fav Ferraris. I considered modifying my 308 at one time. I did actually make a panel for the quarters with the 3 big louvers. I still have them in the attic, but see you already did yours. Looking good.
I didnt have time to look thru all your pics. 288 is one of my fav Ferraris. I considered modifying my 308 at one time. I did actually make a panel for the quarters with the 3 big louvers. I still have them in the attic, but see you already did yours. Looking good.
Here is a update to bring those of you that are interested. I finally got the rear clip completed to a point that would allow me to do a high solids epoxy finish to seal the fibreglass, but the weather just won't co-operate. Luckily Don offered up some storage to me so it is in storage for the winter. Giving me some room to work on the front clip.
With the car turned around and the rear clip gone I actually have room to work on the front!!! So having done the rear I learned a lot about working with expanding foam the stuff stick to just about anything and once it has finished its chemical reaction is very workable. I had already done most of the passengers side front previously so I only had to do the left (drivers side) and finish both sides to match. I initially cut the vent holes along the chin into the foam but decided to fill them back in for the fibreglassing and then cut them back out and finish off the chin vents. Here are a few pics of the process, enjoy.
Then on to fiberglassing the the finished foam
I have finished the glassing now and am currently finishing off the front spoiler vents and chin vents, I hope to have some pictures to post in a day or two. I did spend a bit of time preparing the front hood, as I'm doing the modified Ferrari hood and head lights. Here are a couple shots to give you a idea of how it will go, the side panel will be glassed into the fenders.
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