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Quad Headlight Harnesses for Fiero1Fan's low profile headlights (and more).. by Synthesis
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Yes I did. These things are fantastic. I just need a hotter heat gun I suspect. Everything shrinks, but the center ring. And it only slightly collapses on one side. Suspect I need a larger blast with hotter air to do it quickly and efficiently.


Yes, The solder ring is designed to melt at around 350-400*.
Your gun may work but it might need a shield to heat the sleeve properly.

You can make a shield that looks like this:


or this: (this is what mine looks like and it works great)

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Yeah, I have one somewhere that looks like the first one. I need to find it.

Also, jrwgt, your harness is packed, I am headed out the door to the Post Office to ship it. You should see it in a few days. Any feedback is appreciated. I will start the remaining harnesses after I have feedback.

Edit: Scratch that... Forgot it was Good Friday... Will hunt down a UPS store, or ship tomorrow.

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Just so I understand correctly:

Tier 1 will have lights work same as stock, OEM style, with lows on then hit high beam switch, highs on lows off.

Tier 2 will work as described above but with a direct connection to the battery to power lights, correct?

if that is correct add me for a tier 1 setup. like simple here..... lol
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Correct. Tier 1 will be a direct H4 to H9 adapter harness. It will utilize the stock headlamp circuitry and wiring to power the headlamps.

Tier 2 will use two relays and provide the same level of functionality as Tier 1 or OEM, but with a direct connection to the battery, and less load on the 20+ year old wiring.

I can add you to the list.

On behalf of everyone here at Pennock's Fiero Forum, welcome to the greatest car forum in the world, and congratulations on your first post.
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Report this Post04-11-2009 11:42 AM Click Here to See the Profile for jrwgtSend a Private Message to jrwgtEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Hey Thanks.

I will be getting it sometime next week then.
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Report this Post04-13-2009 04:22 PM Click Here to See the Profile for jrwgtSend a Private Message to jrwgtEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Harnesses arrived via USPS today! That was quick. They look great and will save me a lot of time.
Wire lengths look good. Will probably be the weekend before I can do much with them.

Thanks

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Harnesses arrived via USPS today! That was quick. They look great and will save me a lot of time.
Wire lengths look good. Will probably be the weekend before I can do much with them.

Thanks



That is fine. I have the next 3-4 Tier2/3 harnesses roughed, but I am sure people won't mind if I hold them as-is until you have fitted and given feedback. Again, call me while installing if you need anything. The ring terminal on the power harness is a bit small I realized. I have increased that size on the newer harnesses.
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take your time and do it right, i don't mind waiting. I still need to relocate my battery to the front.
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Just a bump. I am still actively working on these.
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Updates: I could not delay anymore for measurement input. I have two additional harnesses in progress, and this will catch me up with the exception of Nashco.

Harness Waiting List:

1. jrwgt - T3 FMB - PAID - Shipped and received Still waiting on Input on this one.
2. Macs86GT - T3 FMB - PAID - In Progress
3. PS87GT - T3 FMB - PAID - In Progress
4. Nashco - T2 RMB NoH4 - PAID - on hold
5. Sphynx - T3
6. randye - T3
7. mikejhjr - T1
8. LeeLoo88 - T2 RMB
9. Typetooslow - T1

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Bump. I have two harnesses done, except for Loom. Had to wait for additional parts.

Should be able to ship early part of this week. Sorry for the delay. I am actively working on them, as time permits.
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No worries here Synthesis. I know its something you do on the side not a full time job. I would rather see you get em done right and not burn yourself out doing so depriving others of the product. When i get mine installed ill see if i can get some measurement and fitment pics and dimensions.
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Report this Post04-27-2009 07:58 PM Click Here to See the Profile for jrwgtSend a Private Message to jrwgtEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Synthesis sorry for the delay in letting you know how things fit. The length appears to be just fine and I see no reason why it should not fit the same as it did on yours. I just got back from a 10 day road trip to Kansas City (work related) and was just now able to check the fit under the hood.

The only thing I will do is add a bit more tape or heat shrink around some of the joints of the flex.
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jrwgt, Thank you for the response, I understand about being busy. lol

Which joints need more tape? I tried to make them as solid as I could while still allowing some flexibility.

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Primarily around the fuse harness connectors or anyplace where two ends of flex connect. But mostly around the
fuse harness.
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Primarily around the fuse harness connectors or anyplace where two ends of flex connect. But mostly around the
fuse harness.


K. Those were a bit "iffy" on tape.. I should have done a little more. Will do so in the future. Thank you.
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Ran into a small delay that resulted in changing the lengths on two wires on each harness. JRW, if you have issues, let me know.

My crimper broke too . Waiting on the new one.

Just a status update for those who have paid.
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I finally finished the next two harnesses. I stole a pair of crimpers from the shop I moonlight at. lol

PMs have been sent, then I will be building Nashco's harness, and any others for individuals who have paid.

I have also received a request to build an H4 to H4 headlight harness upgrade that will provide the same advantages as the Fiero1Fan upgrade, but for the stock H4 bulbs.

Yes, this harness will even help with the stock lamps and the light output. I will be using Ceramic H4 female connectors for the headlamp connections. The ceramic are longer lasting, more durable, and less prone to damage from heat. They come with a plastic sleeve that goes over the outside for protection and appearance.

I am able to build this style harness for the same price as a Tier 3. This will NOT turn both high and low on at the same time.
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I am still here. I have to ship the last two harnesses I have made. I said they would be out a week or so ago, and have been busy prepping the car for Dells, and remodeling the house.

I WILL get them out soon. Then need to work on Nashco's harness. I have my measurements down now, and can get it turned out in short time.

I will be bringing 2-3 Tier 3 Harnesses to the Dells with me this year.
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Thanks for the updates. Like I said before, no rush on mine; I'm happy to wait as you've dialed in the details.

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no worries here synthisis, for me the headlight/ battery mod has been a long running project that i want done right, and headlights are definitly not something you want to get all dodgy on you.
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Looking for a Tier 1. PM sent
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PM received and responded to.

I shipped PS87GT's harness today. Mac, yours will go out this week.

Thank you all for the patience. I am straightening some things out in my life, and this time of year is always super busy.

I am working on them slowly but surely (and don't call me Shirley)...
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Don't forget my tier 3 harness too. I sent payment a couple
of weeks ago. Just wondering as I know there was going to be
some delay.
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Don't forget my tier 3 harness too. I sent payment a couple
of weeks ago. Just wondering as I know there was going to be
some delay.


Nope. I have not forgotten yours either.

The first harnesses I have out work great, and fit well. But I am going to tweak the design on the next several to allow a better fit, and a more "balanced" appearance when installed.

Larry and Nashco will be the first two to get the new design for the front. They operate the same, the layout is slightly different to increase the ease of installation.
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Oh Boy, Oh Boy, Just let me know......
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Thanks for making the harnesses at a reasonable price, i understand how busy things get. Best of luck to you.
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Bump, Any Updates?
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Report this Post07-06-2009 03:28 PM Click Here to See the Profile for SynthesisSend a Private Message to SynthesisEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
I am slacking on these. I have several harnesses laid out, but have been very busy. I need to get the ends on, and then loom. Then I can ship.

I want to apologize to all who have purchased already, and not received. I will get these finished right away, and out to you.

I can be reached on my cell phone at 218 two five nine 7three18 if you have any questions or want to contact me directly.
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Ok. Back on track (for the most part). Harness v2.0 is drawn up and laid out. I am finalizing it, and will be getting the existing harnesses I have finished and out by early next week..
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Bump to the top.

Version 2.0 of the harnesses are now in production. I apologize for the delay. Life kicked in, and these went on the back burner.

Mac86, your harness WILL go out this week. Thank you so much for your patience.

Nashco, I finally have my measurements complete, and I am comfortable with the harnesses the way they are now. Yours is already completed, with the exception of the H9 connectors for the lamps.

Larry Nakamura. Thank you for your patience. Yours will go out with Mac's this week.

If I missed anyone who has paid me, please PM me.
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Report this Post07-11-2009 06:39 PM Click Here to See the Profile for NashcoClick Here to visit Nashco's HomePageSend a Private Message to NashcoEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Cool, I could actually use mine soon. What's the timeline on the H9 connectors? Thanks!

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Originally posted by Nashco:

Cool, I could actually use mine soon. What's the timeline on the H9 connectors? Thanks!

Bryce

I just need to get yours onto the harness, and then loom it.

That will do it for my existing stock of H9 connectors, and will need to re-order.
Checking my history, Larry Nakamura was the last one to pay in, so that will catch me up on paid harnesses, and then I can order more connectors.
Monday, I need to call my local supplier and get some brackets shipped to me. They are the metal relay clips that allow you to mount the relays to the car. I ran out of stock on them, and need to get more before I can ship your harness Nashco.
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Note: No, I did not forget PS87GT... Harness is complete (waiting on fuse holders)...
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Bump to the top.. Ordered the remainder of my supplies today to get these finished. I was shorted a few pieces on the seals for the H9 connectors, so I ordered extras of those from the supplier, along with new terminals and connector housings.

I will be going to pick up the mounting brackets, among other things for the relays at Noon.

My revision for the power harness for Front/Rear mount batteries will help simplify construction, and allow me to box and ship orders much more quickly.

Front mount batteries feature two fuse holders and two power leads connected to a single ring terminal for connection to the battery. The power harness ends in a 2 position weather sealed connector.
The rear mount harness was the same setup, only much longer.
The new design will feature the FMB power harness as usual, the RMB harness will be an addon length of wire with connectors at both ends. Simple extend the harness the length of the vehicle underneath, and plug it in.
This way, I can just pick parts off the shelf and ship.

Should keep me up to date with orders.
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YAY!

Updates at long last!

Two harnesses shipping today.
Two more by Monday. That will catch me up on Paid harnesses.

I have 2 sets of the Tier 1 complete, and I have a Tier 2 complete for either FMB or RMB.

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Report this Post07-27-2009 08:04 AM Click Here to See the Profile for Macs86GTSend a Private Message to Macs86GTEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Got my harness a few days ago, just had some computer related issues preventing me from posting. It looks great, btw synthesis does that harness just plug in to the fiero's stock headlight harness on one side then the rest is handled by the harness im guessing?
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Yep. You route battery power using the fused harness, plug it into the front harness, and then connect the H4 headlamp connection to it.

You received the version 1 harness. The relays on yours mount to the inner fender panel on the driver's side next to the headlight. When mounted and routed, the harness will lay on top of the existing harness, and route behind the headlamp doors.

I need someone who can document a complete photo shoot of the install on the harnesses in order to get a "manual" drawn up.
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