Well I've decided that I want to move onto something else. I've owned this Fiero for almost 12 years and have put tens of thousands of dollar into it over the years. I just feel like I need a change. I'm not all too big on going fast anymore and I am looking for something more road-course and autocross friendly.
The Basics: -1988 Fiero GT -Red exterior with beechwood interior -Approx 122k miles (~10k miles since the 3800 swap) -Automatic -Power windows/mirrors/locks -Cruise -A/C -No sunroof or T-tops and is spoiler-delete -VIN#1G2PG119XJP213094
Engine: -3800 Series-2 L67 with approximately 70k miles. -Home-ported L26 heads (bigger intake valves over the L36) with comp 105lb springs, and a competition valvejob. -Home Ported camaro upper and lower intake manifolds -1.84:1 roller rockers -65lb injectors -Denso Toyota Supra fuel pump
Turbo Setup: -ZZP stainless front and rear powerlogs -Custom Stainless Y-pipe -Master Power T61 Turbo w/ .68a/r T4 exhaust housing -Synapse 40mm Wastegate -Synapse BOV -Custom aluminum charge-piping -Custom air-air intercooler from ETS -LS1 MAF -Custom Cold-air induction -3” exhaust into a magnaflow muffler -TurboXS manual boost controller -Silicone boost lines
Transmission: -4t65e-HD performance built by Dave of Triple Edge Performance -Custom Stall converter -Upgraded clutchpacks -Hardened input shaft -Heavy duty transmission cooler -7/8" chain and 3.29 gearset
Misc: -NGK AFX wideband gauge -Powdercoated valvecovers, fuel rails, intake manifolds, and turbo -Header wrap from manifolds to muffler -Turbo blanket
Suspension/Tires: -Poly bushings all-around. -Fierostore lowering springs with Koni red adjustable shocks in the front -Held Motorsports coilovers with KYB struts and 300# springs in the rear -Front balljoints and tie-rods have been replaced between 70-85k miles -Wheels are 5Zigen Fn01r-c’s. 17x7 front and 17x8 in the rear. -Tires are Falken Azenis RT615’s (225/45/17) in the front and Nitto 555 Drag Radials (245/45/17) in the rear
Brakes: -Braided stainless hoses -West Coast Fiero 12” corvette caliper brackets -Baer Eradispeed 2-piece rotors in the front and regular C4 vette rotors in the rear -Satisfied-pro ceramic pads -Stock calipers painted red
Interior: -Recaro seats with custom seat brackets -B-quiet brown bread sound deadening throughout -Black headliner -Black carpet -Black ‘Fiero’ embroidered floormats -4” Pioneer speakers in the front with homemade mounting brackets -4x6 Blaupunkt speakers in the rear -Pioneer DEH-P9800 headunit with Ipod control -Aeroforce scanguage and Autometer boost gauge mounted in Autometer carbon fiber cups -Beretta shiftknob -New center console skeleton with no broken holes -Momo D-shape steering wheel
The good: -This car is professionally built and has been maintained very well. This car drives very nice, and will get ~26mpg in regular driving yet is faster than 95% of the street cars out there. With the sound deadening, it is not hard on the ears on long drives, and still has all the creature comforts like power-options, cruise, a/c, and a full-trunk. -It’s FAST, and it’s reliable. Since the 3800-swap, I have had ~30 ¼ miles passes (around 10 passes on the current setup) and have not had a single problem. You can take this car to the track and run high 11’s right off the street. Throw in some 100-octane, turn up the boost a bit, and lower the tire pressure, and it’s a low 11-second car.
The bad/issues:
Powertrain: - None that I can think of now that I put a new turbo on
Suspension/Tires: -The front bushings squeak. They have been in the car for 50k miles and 10 years. I’m sure they need to be greased up. -Due to traction issues, I run drag radials on the rear. This results in great straight-line traction, but makes it a bit soft in cornering. Plus drag radials don’t exactly have a long tread life. They still have quite a bit of tread-depth, but I’m not sure how long it will last.
Interior: -Although the carpet is new, I did a crappy job measuring in some spots and the fit is far from perfect. -There is some exposed wire for the wideband sensor. It is a Function-over-Form interior. -The passenger-side Recaro seat has a small cigarette burn in it. -Some of the carpet material on the lower doors has some ripping and fraying.
Exterior: -The paint doesn't have any clearcoat peeling, but it's not in great shape. There is a lot of small nicks and scratches. The front and rear bumpers were repainted 2-years ago, but the front has a large amount of stone chips in it. -The quarter-windows are original and have some of the usual cracking and delaminaing in them.
Misc: -The car was in an accident at some point before I owned it. I believe it was hit in the right front. It causes no driveability issues.
Overall, I would give the car a 7 out of 10 in it's current condition. Mechanical 10 out of 10. Interior 7 out of 10. Exterior 6 out of 10. I have no issues with using it as a daily driver and have used it as a commuter on a pretty regular basis over the past year. I would not hesitate to drive cross-country in it. I have described virtually every little issue I could think of because I try to be as honest as possible.
I should also add that along with the car, I have these parts available if the new-owner would want them:
-A spare set of axles (direct swap) -AusFiero Stage-2 scoops -Spare brake calipers and other various Fiero stuff -The original seats (dirty, but no rips or tears) and carpet
Now why would you go and sell almost the exact car I'm building a year after I start building it? I've already got more into my car than you're selling yours for, and my car is probably only like half done. Yeah.... you suck. LOL
Don't do it.....I know it is a feeler Thread and you feel like you need change but it will come back to bite you in the azz after some time.......If I had 9K I would grab this car up in a heartbeat and it is well worth more than the asking price......I would say good luck with the sale but I hope it doesn't and you are forced to keep it......
Hey sorry if I missed it, but yours is so similar to mine (well the plan anyway), have you had it dyno'd yet? If so, what were the numbers?
Never had it dynoed. I have trapped a best of 121.50mph. With driver, the car weighs around 3250lbs. You can plug that data into a hp calculator and go from there.
Originally posted by AkursedX: Never had it dynoed. I have trapped a best of 121.50mph. With driver, the car weighs around 3250lbs. You can plug that data into a hp calculator and go from there.
From the five I checked, the crank HP is estimated to be 455 to 488 hp... more than enough to get into trouble quick!
From the five I checked, the crank HP is estimated to be 455 to 488 hp... more than enough to get into trouble quick!
That's what I found as well, and is the exact range we're looking to be at. I plan on having some serious fun in this car of mine, but to be honest it's already taken me over a year to even try to get in any trouble with it If only Akursed had sold his car in the summer of '09. Oh well, mine will have it's own identity.
[This message has been edited by mptighe (edited 01-08-2011).]
The more I look at this one the more I like it. I can't wait to get my tax check! I usually don't like autos but it doesn't seem like there is a very strong manual transaxle option for Fieros.
I'm going to tell the wife tomorrow that I put the Fiero up for sale, so if I don't reply anymore, it's probably because she strangled me. I don't think she's going to be to keen on me to even think of doing this.
Heh, well she didn't kill me, but I don't think she's too happy about it. She'd prefer that if I actually get rid of it that I don't get another in it's place and that I move onto something else.
On the bright-side, she said she'd prefer that I just keep the Fiero and buy another car to satisfy my need to an auto-x/road course car. I have a line on an affordable '88 manual coupe and a '91 Jetta GLI 16v.
I am going to keep my Fiero up for sale though. I plan on making a photo-bucket gallery with more detailed pictures and maybe a walk-around video of the car sometime soon.
I have had a chubby for this car ever since I saw it on Ryan's site (www.gmtuners.com). I wish I wasn't working on my own 3800sc swap... I supposed I should be happy with 315hp... 450hp-480hp would probably get me killed... Or in jail the way our Stormtroopers State Troopers crack down...
I have had a chubby for this car ever since I saw it on Ryan's site (www.gmtuners.com). I wish I wasn't working on my own 3800sc swap... I supposed I should be happy with 315hp... 450hp-480hp would probably get me killed... Or in jail the way our Stormtroopers State Troopers crack down...
Good luck with the sale... <sobs>
You make an excellent point. I still remember what you and Matt told me they do the speeders on the side of the road...
Thanks for the compliments and the free-bumps! I am actually hoping that I will be able to sell this car now. I have found what I want in replacement of my Fiero. It's engine-swapped. It's GM-powered, and it's a 2-seater. But it's bigger on the interior-side and I would actually be able to put a cage in it.
I should also add that along with the car, I have these parts available if the new-owner would want them:
-A spare set of axles (direct swap) -AusFiero Stage-2 scoops -A full spare '88 rear cradle with all the suspension and brake bits -Spare brake calipers and other various Fiero stuff -The original seats (dirty, but no rips or tears) and carpet
------------------ '88 GT- 3800 Turbo 11.367@121.03mph gmtuners.com -Build info
I started her up yesterday after probably 2-weeks of sitting and she fired right up on the 1st crank. Then I left some tire patches in my driveway after she warmed up
------------------ '88 GT- 3800 Turbo 11.367@121.03mph gmtuners.com -Build info
