So how do I get a 39" part in a 37" box? Do you want your parts showing up punched through the end of the box? The tubes I bought only cost me $1.81 ea, with plastic end caps.
Rich
You use 2 boxes. Put the parts into one then slide another over the top.
Your wasting your money on shipping tubes. The USPS has 2 different size triangle boxes that are free. You can order them straight off of www.usps.com
Sure, the boxes are free. But the extra for Priority Mail shipping of 2 of those things taped together would likely be way more than the $1.81 that the tubes cost him. You can't turn them inside-out any more either, as they print "Prioirty Mail" on both sides now. I've seen them turn somebody away from the counter trying to use an inside-out Priority box for non-priority shipment.. You could cover them in brown paper, but again, just to save $1.81 it's not worth it.. Besides, tubes are stronger than triangles.
I want a stainless set, but need to check my tracks first.. Problem is the car is 80 miles away.. I've spent too much on parts still in boxes for years, can't get them yet if I'm not sure I definitely need them.. Good work though!!
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The first batch is sold out. The second batch will be much larger and production will begin as soon as my material shows up. Hopefully the middle of next week. Just a note, I installed mine without removing the roof panel. I will get a picture of the tool I made to get the rivet washers installed under the roof panel then all you will need to install these are a putty knife, 1/8" drill bit, rivet gun, a 10mm socket and ratchet, and the gasket adhesive. Of course if you decide to glue/tape these in you will need the putty knife, gasket adhesive, rivet gun, and the10mm socket and ratchet.
The kit includes 20 rivets, 20 rivet washers, 8 6 mm rubber washers, 8 6mm washers, and 8 6mm nylock nuts. I included the extra rivet goodies due to I am glad I had them when I put mine together. The rubber washers go between the track and the roof panel, since the indentation is there from the t-nut on the stock tracks. This will help seal the hole and hopefully prevent the over tightening of the nuts. DO NOT OVER TIGHTEN!! When tightening the nut look watch the top side of the track. When you see the track start to deform stop. The nut is correctly tightened.
On the plus side we had a thunderstorm come through this week and I stayed dry in the car!! And that is with the original gasket.
Got mine today, look GREAT! Am I correct that the headliner must come down to install. I have The Fiero Store ABS covered type, with a sun roof. I wasn’t sure if I could get to the studs without removing the headliner or could I reach them with the sun roof trim piece removed. Thanks Mike Parker
Got mine today, look GREAT! Am I correct that the headliner must come down to install. I have The Fiero Store ABS covered type, with a sun roof. I wasn’t sure if I could get to the studs without removing the headliner or could I reach them with the sun roof trim piece removed. Thanks Mike Parker
I am not sure. I have my '84 that is now waiting for a set and I will find out. My '86 doesn't have a headliner. Although it looks like the studs are pretty close to the edge.
Just a note, I installed mine without removing the roof panel. I will get a picture of the tool I made to get the rivet washers installed under the roof panel then all you will need to install these are a putty knife, 1/8" drill bit, rivet gun, a 10mm socket and ratchet, and the gasket adhesive. Of course if you decide to glue/tape these in you will need the putty knife, gasket adhesive, rivet gun, and the10mm socket and ratchet.
Rich
Hi! I was wondering if you had that picture of the tool you made. Is there anything special needed to make it?
Hi! I was wondering if you had that picture of the tool you made. Is there anything special needed to make it?
Josh
I can't seem to find it, but it is pretty simple. Take a used hack saw blade 12" long and slot the hole on one end all the way out. Then using the gasket adhesive glue the rivet washer to the end centering the washer over the slot. Gently lift the roof panel and slide the blade in between the roof panel and the roof until you line up the washer to the holes in the track and the roof panel. Insert and pop the rivet. This does not work on the curved track that follows the windshield. The only rivets I installed on this track were for the sunroof tabs. For this one insert the track and bolt into place. Mark location of one tab. Remove track. Align the tab with the marks on the sunroof track. These rivets are tangent to the centerline of the track. The tracks are 24mm wide so the center of these rivets should be at about 13.5 mm from the sunroof side of the track. After one side was drilled I installed 1 rivet and marked the opposite side. Drill out the newly installed rivet and then drill the opposite side once again the center line of the rivets is 13.5mm from the sunroof side. Now you should have the holes in the correct location. Fasten studs and rivet the tabs in. I suppose it would be possible to take the old track and line up the studs with the stock t-nuts and then use the old track as a template, however since as you can see by the pictures I didn't have anything left to use. And there was very little strength to what was left and my came out completely deformed and not usable. Of course if anyone can find a print on these that would be a game changer.
After 3 rains in the area since I replaced mine it is really nice to get into a dry car and drive without getting dripped on.
I can't seem to find it, but it is pretty simple. Take a used hack saw blade 12" long and slot the hole on one end all the way out. Then using the gasket adhesive glue the rivet washer to the end centering the washer over the slot. Gently lift the roof panel and slide the blade in between the roof panel and the roof until you line up the washer to the holes in the track and the roof panel. Insert and pop the rivet. This does not work on the curved track that follows the windshield. The only rivets I installed on this track were for the sunroof tabs. For this one insert the track and bolt into place. Mark location of one tab. Remove track. Align the tab with the marks on the sunroof track. These rivets are tangent to the centerline of the track. The tracks are 24mm wide so the center of these rivets should be at about 13.5 mm from the sunroof side of the track. After one side was drilled I installed 1 rivet and marked the opposite side. Drill out the newly installed rivet and then drill the opposite side once again the center line of the rivets is 13.5mm from the sunroof side. Now you should have the holes in the correct location. Fasten studs and rivet the tabs in. I suppose it would be possible to take the old track and line up the studs with the stock t-nuts and then use the old track as a template, however since as you can see by the pictures I didn't have anything left to use. And there was very little strength to what was left and my came out completely deformed and not usable. Of course if anyone can find a print on these that would be a game changer.
After 3 rains in the area since I replaced mine it is really nice to get into a dry car and drive without getting dripped on.
It was a productive day. All the blanks are sheared and the windshield tracks are ready for the roller. So hopefully within the next week I will have stock.
Still waiting for some info on these and the part I sent you. Also for anybody wanting to do this; I removed my tracks yesterday, figured I’d take out the old, paint the car, and then put in the new. Couple things to note; under the original track was a gasket, almost like thick double sided electrical tape. No idea where to get new, anybody know?
And (not sure if this was mentioned already but)the front 4 rivets also hold the sunroof insert hinge tabs so those will need to be replaced.
Still waiting for some info on these and the part I sent you. Also for anybody wanting to do this; I removed my tracks yesterday, figured I’d take out the old, paint the car, and then put in the new. Couple things to note; under the original track was a gasket, almost like thick double sided electrical tape. No idea where to get new, anybody know?
And (not sure if this was mentioned already but)the front 4 rivets also hold the sunroof insert hinge tabs so those will need to be replaced.
I didn't use the tape. I used the gasket adhesive under the tracks. When I worked for my last employer we used to use camper tape. It is not black but functions the same. After a couple of rainfalls and a wash I'm still dry inside. I have an update on the air dam brace and will PM you.
I hope to have 10 sets ready Tuesday or Wednesday this week. All I have to do is stud them, and of course we are out of studs at work. And no I did not use them all.
I hope I'm not hijacking this thread but on the topic of installing the sunroof rails I cannot seem to squeeze the rivet enough to fill the hole in the roof panel. Using 1/8" rivets with 3/16" squeeze height.
I hope I'm not hijacking this thread but on the topic of installing the sunroof rails I cannot seem to squeeze the rivet enough to fill the hole in the roof panel. Using 1/8" rivets with 3/16" squeeze height.
any suggestions?
You are missing the rivet washers that have to be installed under the roof panel. That is what my hacksaw tool is for. I skipped the 3 on the windshield side since the sunroof tabs are riveted and there are 2 studs. The rest I was able to get in with the tool. When I get around to doing my '84 I will include more photos.