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taking orders on custom built headers for 2.8, 3x00, 3800 engines!! by 86 toy
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Report this Post09-02-2013 10:13 PM Click Here to See the Profile for 86 toySend a Private Message to 86 toyEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
just a bump and to let everyone know i will be working on 3800 turbo header and ypipe design starting this week.. I'll post pics of my progress.. forum member babyboy761 was kind enough to send me his turbo and wastegate so i can build a mock up and determine turbo placement..also i plan to go to the junk yard this week and pick up an auto trans so there will be no question that the headers will fit.. if anyone has any input feel free to post here or pm me. Thanks

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I really have no way to check fitment of a/c lines.. where is the clearance a problem? would you be able to get me picture? as far as time i can build them pretty quick once i have parts the biggest problem is at this time WCF is the only vendor with 3800 header flanges and it takes 2 weeks to get a set here from them.. i'm working on a local machine shop to cut flanges for me. so as of right now turn around is 2 to 2.5 weeks..


I am interested in buying a set of 3800 headers. If you send me a 3800 flange, I can duplicate it for you on a laser or waterjet to within .002" no problem and send you back a bunch. Please PM me. It would really help if you can get an old AC line and see how close the headers get

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Shortly i will also have a 3800 SC. Than i will come back for the headers and Y pipe.
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I am interested in buying a set of 3800 headers. If you send me a 3800 flange, I can duplicate it for you on a laser or waterjet to within .002" no problem and send you back a bunch. Please PM me. It would really help if you can get an old AC line and see how close the headers get


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now what if we have the Power logs that zzp sales. I'm doing the turbo build but already have the power logs, is there anyway we can get in on this bit?
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here are some pics of the turbo setup I just finished building for babyboy761..















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now what if we have the Power logs that zzp sales. I'm doing the turbo build but already have the power logs, is there anyway we can get in on this bit?


what would you like?? if you send me the power logs i can build a turbo y that will set your turbo in about the same location as the one i just posted.. pm me if your interested and we can work out details
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First off let me say nice job! I really like the look and craftsmanship that went into making these. But I have a few questions.

For the standard 3800 headers (getrag) are you going to make the egr tube leg functional.? I run the egr system on my swap and would like to keep that functionality..

As seen here:



Versus your flange has the hookup, but no tube (yet?)


And also with outlet size, I'm running 3" are you able to add a 3" collector vs the 2.5? Thanks for your time. -Jason

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Jason,
In that picture the EGR tube wasn't installed yet but did get added so EGR is no problem at all on the 3800 also 3" is no problem on the outlet
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First off let me say nice job! I really like the look and craftsmanship that went into making these. But I have a few questions.

For the standard 3800 headers (getrag) are you going to make the egr tube leg functional.? I run the egr system on my swap and would like to keep that functionality..




And also with outlet size, I'm running 3" are you able to add a 3" collector vs the 2.5? Thanks for your time. -Jason

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looks great,But is the turbo going to clear the deck lid? And how much for the headers and turbo cross over?
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looks great,But is the turbo going to clear the deck lid? And how much for the headers and turbo cross over?


deck lid clearance will be close with his setup.. I spent some time on the phone with this customer having him take lots of measurements on his car.. He will be giving me feedback on how everything fits so i will know for future builds if i need to adjust anything..
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edited first post with more accurate description and options for 3800 headers.

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How much to replicate those 3800 turbo headers? They look fantastic.
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How much to replicate those 3800 turbo headers? They look fantastic.


$750
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Jason,
In that picture the EGR tube wasn't installed yet but did get added so EGR is no problem at all on the 3800 also 3" is no problem on the outlet
Thanks


Wonderful! Thanks for the info! I'm excited about this and hope to be contacting you soon about a set. -Jason
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looks great,But is the turbo going to clear the deck lid? And how much for the headers and turbo cross over?


This was my first thought also....I hope the turbo clears but I think there will be issues with doing so...Nice work and looking good man...
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I would be. Very interested in sending my power logs in to do fitting. I know there are other that need the same thing and it would help a ton. Here is my number contact me 316-670-0314. I was also curious about the height and clearance on the deck lid. But if you say it clears I will take your word for it. And estimate on what a turbo cross over would cost?
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ah good find for me. I am not ready yet. Need to install my widebody/hatch/512 bumper first. But glad to see someone is offering this. Will be calling early next year, hope you are still doing them then!

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I would be. Very interested in sending my power logs in to do fitting. I know there are other that need the same thing and it would help a ton. Here is my number contact me 316-670-0314. I was also curious about the height and clearance on the deck lid. But if you say it clears I will take your word for it. And estimate on what a turbo cross over would cost?


I would have to source flanges to connect to the power logs and depending on price it may be more cost effective to cut off the factory style flange and weld on v-band flanges.. I'm assuming that you would want the crossover in stainless steel because the p-logs are stainless..
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I would be. Very interested in sending my power logs in to do fitting. I know there are other that need the same thing and it would help a ton. Here is my number contact me 316-670-0314. I was also curious about the height and clearance on the deck lid. But if you say it clears I will take your word for it. And estimate on what a turbo cross over would cost?


I would have to source flanges to connect to the power logs and depending on price it may be more cost effective to cut off the factory style flange and weld on v-band flanges.. I'm assuming that you would want the crossover in stainless steel because the p-logs are stainless..
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Yes I would most likely want to have it in stainless. I do know zzp has turbo flanges for 14.99 I'm unable to copy and paste the url but I can type it all out. Shop.Zzperformance.co./store/c/85-turbo-parts-kits.aspx
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Also what size turbo is that in the pictures. Mine is A 56 trim a bit small now I'm trying to see if we do get this crossover going, how much room will I have if I want to ugrade turbos in the future. If contacting me/texting us faster please do so or feel free to.
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Also what size turbo is that in the pictures. Mine is A 56 trim a bit small now I'm trying to see if we do get this crossover going, how much room will I have if I want to ugrade turbos in the future. If contacting me/texting us faster please do so or feel free to.


That turbo is a T04 .62 or .63 trim I think and with a little extra work I can most likely get it a little lower especially using a plog instead of headers because of the size difference.. I left you a voice mail. . Give me a call today and we'll talk about it

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If a 62 can fit then that would brobably be good enough and as big as I would go. I have a kid no need to kill myself with speed ( mph not the drug :-) ) ok I did see a missed call. 5xx area code. I'm at work at the moment but I will definitely call when I get off.
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If a 62 can fit then that would brobably be good enough and as big as I would go. I have a kid no need to kill myself with speed ( mph not the drug :-) ) ok I did see a missed call. 5xx area code. I'm at work at the moment but I will definitely call when I get off.
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I would plumb the wastegate exit into the exhaust at an angle and farther from the turbo, it's going to cause a lot of turbulence there. Other than that they look nice, good job!
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I would plumb the wastegate exit into the exhaust at an angle and farther from the turbo, it's going to cause a lot of turbulence there. Other than that they look nice, good job!


Thanks for the advice and the good word..
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just a bump.. i'm open for orders!

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Wow, that's some nice work!
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I would be interested for my 3800 SC Swap, but I would want to do a true dual exhaust versus having both headers come together and then split again.
Would you be able to get me rough estimate on cost?
I'm thinking that the headers on the trunk side of the motor would run towards the driver side port on the bumper and the the headers that come the firewall side of the motor would head off on the passenger side.

Anyone have any thoughts on this?
I know there will be comments on backpressure and what-not, but I want a little crackle when I let off.
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Wow, that's some nice work!


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I would be interested for my 3800 SC Swap, but I would want to do a true dual exhaust versus having both headers come together and then split again.
Would you be able to get me rough estimate on cost?
I'm thinking that the headers on the trunk side of the motor would run towards the driver side port on the bumper and the the headers that come the firewall side of the motor would head off on the passenger side.

Anyone have any thoughts on this?
I know there will be comments on backpressure and what-not, but I want a little crackle when I let off.


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I must say he did a REALLY good job on the headers. The installation was painless for the most part. Only because I put the my top part of my hand through a screw. The day of instalation. When we talked on the phone. He and I both knew that the down pipe may be somewhat of a problem. Other than that it fits/clears. My F-body intake is closer to my deck lid than my turbo is. Time to make a new dog bone and figure out my fuel rail situation.
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I would be interested for my 3800 SC Swap, but I would want to do a true dual exhaust versus having both headers come together and then split again.
Would you be able to get me rough estimate on cost?
I'm thinking that the headers on the trunk side of the motor would run towards the driver side port on the bumper and the the headers that come the firewall side of the motor would head off on the passenger side.

Anyone have any thoughts on this?
I know there will be comments on backpressure and what-not, but I want a little crackle when I let off.



Pretty much what I was thinking as well. Can this be done?
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Pretty much what I was thinking as well. Can this be done?


Yes it can be done.. I just need to know where you want your headers to exit and I'll build it
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