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Automoda 1988 Fiero Formula convertible for sale (pic intense) by LZeitgeist
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CAR IS SOLD - deposit has been received - payment has been received - CAR HAS BEEN PICKED UP FOR TRANSPORT TO ITS NEW OWNER

AUTOMODA CONVERTIBLE FIERO FOR SALE

UPDATE - 11/26/14 - PRICE LOWERED

UPDATE - 12/9/14 - PRICE LOWERED

UPDATE - 3/5/15 - PRICE LOWERED


General overview: GARAGE KEPT, NEW ENGINE, NEW CLUTCH, NEW TIRES/FRESH ALIGNMENT, ALL-NEW CLUTCH HYDRAULICS AND PEDAL, LED lighting upgrades, ported/reinforced exhaust, 5-year-old PPG paint/clearcoat, and, oh yeah! IT’S A COMPLETELY O.E.M.-BELIEVABLE AUTOMODA CONVERTIBLE!!!


27,xxx miles on new/remanufactured longblock engine – 3-year, 100,000-mile warranty on engine and installation work - 236,5xx miles currently on car

Original features:
- 1988 Fiero Formula – 2.8 liter V6
- 5-speed manual Getrag transmission
- WS6 suspension w/front and rear sway bars
- 15x6 front/15x7 rear crosslace wheels, black, with factory locking lugnuts and key
- Power windows
- Manual mirrors
- Manual door locks
- Tilt steering wheel
- A/C delete

Major mechanical upgrades:
- Remanufactured Jasper longblock engine professionally installed in 2013 by ASE-Certified AutoTek Automotive Service and Repair, 300 Circle Lane, Garner NC
- Brand-new radiator and coolant hoses - 2013
- New Centerforce dual-friction clutch - 2013
- Replaced axle seals at time of clutch installation
- Reinforced and ported exhaust manifolds by Scott Black
- 'Dodgerunner' spring-loaded belt tensioner and new belt

Automoda upgrades:
- Convertible top conversion kit – including fabric-covered rigid aluminum T-top-style roof panels and fabric rear roof section on folding/telescoping metal support framework, reshaped rear upper fenders and reshaped engine vent covers
- Roof panels store behind seats – putting the top down does not impact trunk space(!)
- Rear section folds down FLAT behind headrests – maintains the original lines of the car, top up or down – VERY clean design
- One of approximately 35(!) original kits ever produced by Onofrio ‘Fred’ Scaduto between 1990-1993
- Professionally installed by Rob Kurnat, Kris Krawcewicz and ‘V8 Archie’ Archambeau – Lake Barrington, IL
- Can be driven with roof panels removed and rear section raised (i.e., ‘targa’ mode) or in full convertible fashion

Rick Coulter Racing upgrades:
- Custom underframe reinforcement done prior to convertible top installation
- Fabricated and installed by company with 29 years of experience custom-building entire race car frames/chassis in Chattanooga, TN
- Thick-walled steel tubing connects forward crossmember to rear section of frame rails forward of cradle mounting locations, including diagonal cross-bracing between for additional rigidity
- Custom design does NOT impede gas tank removal or cradle movement/removal in any way
- Professionally designed, fabricated and installed by Rick Coulter and David Trimby

Rodney Dickman upgrades:
- Performance Sound subwoofer speaker and gasket
- 1” lowering balljoints in front
- Getrag shift cable
- Getrag select cable
- Adjustable polyurethane dogbone
- Polyurethane forward transmission mount
- Just installed! - New clutch master cylinder w/adjustable banjo and brass bushing
- Just installed! - New clutch slave cylinder w/dual seals

Fiero Store upgrades:
- Wing gaskets (installed at time of repaint)
- Door mirror gaskets (installed at time of repaint)
- Center console tray
- Driver’s-side power window switch
- ‘Ultimate’ EGR tube
- Just installed! - New all-steel clutch pedal w/new bushings
- Just installed! - New hydraulic clutch line
- Emergency brake boot

Mr. Mike’s upgrades:
- Factory-style grey FABRIC seatcovers (not leather) – matches the OEM fabric and design

Paint/body work:
- PPG ‘Giallo Modena’ paint and clearcoat – May 2009
- All panels removed from chassis, sanded, primed, smoothed, painted and cleared, reassembled then buffed/polished
- All trim and mirrors prepped and painted satin black
- 30+ years of experience in paint & body work – PPG Certified
- Professionally prepared, painted and clearcoated by David Rowland and Brad Bennett of Middlesex, NC
- Comes with nearly a full quart of matching PPG ‘Giallo Modena’ paint for touchups and future repairs/custom additions

Pontiac OEM/NOS upgrades:
- Dark charcoal metallic NOS OEM factory ‘FORMULA’ decals – proper color/location for yellow Fiero w/Formula package – professionally clearcoated into door panel finish for maximum durability
- Black vinyl ‘Fiero’ decal in stock location on decklid – proper color for yellow Fiero w/Formula package
- New inner and outer dew wipes – installed when body panels were removed for painting
- Rear view mirror with integrated maplights/interior lights added
- Decklid-mounted 3rd brake light from 1988 Pontiac Sunbird convertible – uses same bulb as stock Fiero
- Stock ‘Performance Sound’ subwoofer and OEM wiring added
- OEM footwell lighting/stock wiring added
- Power decklid release added
- OEM grey floor mats in mostly-decent condition
- BRAND-NEW OEM steering wheel with reinforced horn tabs

Custom additions / personal touches:
- Custom-fabricated stock-style Performance Sound lighting console wired to rear-view mirror with integrated interior/map lights – functions exactly as the stock OEM interior lighting system did
- 1990 Pontiac CD player installed (matches the 1988 cassette player) with 5-band equalizer and added auxiliary input for the MP3 player of your choice
- Relocated stock gas door release from (now nonexistent) B-pillar to carpeted panel behind driver’s seat – can be accessed without moving seat
- 4”x6” B-pillar speakers have been incorporated into the headrests behind acoustically-transparent panel which properly shapes the headrest fabric – don’t even know they’re there until you turn the music on
- Custom all-LED front marker/ directional lights with integrated white driving lights – driving lights wired to come on with parking lights and can be turned off independently with dash-mounted switch
- 9-element LED sidemarker lights in OEM side molding
- Mid-line connections between solid and flexible line sections of brand-new Fiero Store clutch hydraulic line sealed with heat shrink tubing to maintain excellent seal and prevent future leaks

Maintenance history/upgrades:
- Garage kept since 2001
- Extra engine-to-chassis ground straps installed
- New Bosch fuel pump and new pickup filter installed in 2013
- New Optima RedTop gel-cell battery installed in 2013 (sealed gel cell prevents fumes from negatively affecting convertible top material near decklid vent panel – original Optima RedTop battery installed in 2004)
- New 110-amp high-output alternator installed in 2013
- Heater core replaced in 2012
- Manual radiator fan bypass switch installed – mounted in driver’s side ashtray area – professionally labeled
- 180-degree thermostat
- Welded/reinforced forward engine mount bracket with new solid rubber engine mount installed 2013
- New tires – BF Goodrich Advantage T/A in staggered stock sizes front and rear – 2014
- New alignment – 2014
- Steering column professionally rebuilt in 2012
- Pennzoil Synchromesh fluid in Getrag 5-speed transmission
- Amzoil #AMO Premium Protection (high-zinc) 10W40 oil and Amzoil EaO23 extended-use oil filter installed in July 2014 at 230,000 miles – good for 25,000 mile use

**POSSIBLE** BONUS ITEMS INCLUDED (depending on final price negotiated for car):
- Extra set of New Old Stock OEM grey factory FLOOR MATS – used for car shows ONLY!!!
- 4-piece set of Original, burgundy and grey, Dealer-Optioned FIERO LUGGAGE!!! (includes large bag, medium duffle bag and two small bags – have never been able to acquire the folding luggage bag)
- Original CUSTOM-FIT ‘Back East’ brand fabric CAR COVER!!! Keep the dust off in between top-down drives!
- Custom-made Automoda display banner! Show off your new acquisition at car shows!
- Extra set of original Automoda fiberglass rear upper fender panels – not available ANYWHERE else! Cover yourself against a possible future collision!


NOTES:
Climate control panel lighting is currently not working – most likely an easy fix but have done fine without

Climate control sliders are functional and original three-color (blue/red/green) climate control cables are in place – however, could not figure out how to correctly route the blue (heater/defrost) cable without it binding so have simply run it alongside the center tunnel to switch between heat and defrost as needed – simple fix if you know how to properly route the cable to prevent binding – other cables are in place and functional (note – car does not have A/C and came without it from the factory)

Elbow damage to rear padding of center console

Small wear area on driver’s side outer seat bolster

Dash vinyl is good shape, although slightly bowed out around the vent/radio/climate control trim panel. Overall, the interior is in better shape than most other Fieros I’ve personally seen.

Passenger side power window switch has usual wear from use – still works fine. Driver’s side power window switch replaced with new in 2013 (passenger side switch looked fine at that time otherwise would have replaced both of them then)

Convertible top fabric has a couple of small holes – backed with cloth repair tape inside

Rubber molding across the top of the windshield seals well – joint between the T-top-style roof panels leaks slightly at the back ends in HEAVY rain – drips slightly in driving rain at the top/forward corners where the end of the windshield meets the door glass – window glass seals tightly to roof panels using OEM door molding – convertible top kit I purchased did not include a seal for the rear arch so I purchased aftermarket rubber molding in different profiles until I found one that works well. Some air leakage down the rearmost edges of the side windows but windows work smoothly.

Select cable is binding somewhat - might need minor adjustment or possible replacement. Was replaced at same time new engine was installed.


ADDITIONAL NOTES AND BACKSTORY:

I have always carried full insurance coverage on this car, even though it has long been paid for. I have also always made a note to file my receipts with my insurance agent for major items like the convertible conversion work.

In early 2009, a deer ran into the rear passenger side of the car, going over the back end of the car, breaking the wingstands, removing the wing and causing some paint damage to the side of the car and a small rip and some marking to the convertible top fabric. At this time, the car still had the original paint and clearcoat on it, and some aftermarket Car Color spraypaint on the upper rear convertible kit fenders. The paint was in passable shape but starting to show its age, especially the clearcoat. There was no other damage to the vehicle in any way, shape or form, not even to the fiberglass upper rear fender that is part of the convertible conversion.

I took it to my insurance agent – he sent me to an insurance adjuster who inspected the car, the condition of the paint and asked me to get an estimate for *replacement* (not repair) of the convertible top fabric and return that to him. He also asked me if I knew of a source to get an acceptable replacement wing in order to ascertain a value to ascribe to it – at that time, there was nothing available on the commercial market.

I provided the requested information, waited a few days for their assessment and when they got back to me, they offered me a check for (if I recall correctly) about $3,500, included in that, approximately $1,000 for the replacement of the convertible top (materials and labor), an unknown amount to replace the wing (they were unable to locate a source, so I’m unsure how they came up with a number for the value) and the remainder towards a complete repaint of the car. However, they would have to consider the car Totaled, and would allow me to purchase the car back from them for $700, to which I (of course) agreed.

I did not feel the convertible top fabric warranted replacement at this time, so instead I supplied an identical OEM stock wing I had in storage and invested the insurance repayment into getting a professional paint job in the color I always wished to have and the best quality of paint I could find to be properly-applied (instead of whatever bargain-basement paint job they had most likely provided for), which then provided the new and complete panels-off PPG ‘Giallo Modena’ paint job and clearcoat.

The drawback is that the North Carolina registration for the car is listed as a ‘Total Loss Claim’, based solely on the money awarded by the insurance company, even though there was never anything ‘totaled’ about the car except that the cost of repairs exceeded the estimated $500 tax value of the car. (Even having to purchase a replacement wing, if one was readily available, without offering to paint the car, would have resulted in this. ANY needed repairs over $375 would have resulted in this.) Depending on the state the title is transferred to, this notation may not even appear on your new title. Regardless of the notation, this car is in terrific physical and mechanical shape.

There is/was no structural damage to the car; there is/was no mechanical damage to the car – it was all purely cosmetic and limited to the wing being forcibly removed from the wingstands by the deer going sideways over the back end of the car. I am of the mind that the insurance company was somehow caught between a rock and a hard place to the aged condition of the paint and the requirement to make things ‘whole’ again – I can’t claim to understand their logic, but was happy to be able to give the car a facelift and a refreshed appearance.

The car is currently in the best mechanical shape that it has ever been in since I first purchased it in 1999 now that I have invested in the new engine, new clutch and other mechanical components, and turns heads everywhere with the new color and whether the convertible top is up or down. It has passed every annual NC State vehicle inspection with flying colors, and I know no reason it would not in any other state either. A few months ago, I drove this car to Baltimore, MD and back to Raleigh, NC and got 30(!) MPG on the highway. I usually get about 22-23 MPG around town.

You may ask, 'WHY AM I SELLING THIS CAR?'
Years ago, I’d bought a Suzuki Samurai that I loved and I owned it for three years – in that time, I’d had it in the mountains, at the coast, on the highway on long trips, drove it daily on short runs, climbing in the hills and cruising through the sand at the beach, top up, top down… I ended up selling it at the end of that three years (and buying a motorcycle) not because I no longer enjoyed it but because I felt as though I had done everything with it that I was able to and I just wanted a change. In many ways, I feel I am at the same point now with this car – it has become everything I had wanted it to be back in 1990 when I first saw an ad in the back of Kit Car Magazine for the Automoda convertible top conversion, and only had a 4-cyl. Coupe to install it on (which I still have) even if I’d been able to afford it at the time. It took me 14 years just to locate an uninstalled top kit but thanks to V8 Archie, finally the dream could begin. In the 10 years since, I have enjoyed the car and improved upon it in every way I have been able to, but I’m thinking now may be the time to pass it on to someone new to enjoy for the next 20 years.

Contact me if you are interested and would like more information.

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1988 Fiero Formula - Automoda convertible
repainted PPG Ferrari 'Giallo Modena' yellow
1988 Fiero 4-cyl Coupe - Dad's car, the Indy 'clone'
BACK ON THE ROAD! (after a 6 year rest)

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1988 Fiero Formula - Automoda convertible
repainted PPG Ferrari 'Giallo Modena' yellow
1988 Fiero 4-cyl Coupe - Dad's car, the Indy 'clone'
BACK ON THE ROAD! (after a 6 year rest)

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At a recent Cars & Coffee gathering - dark spot under car is NOT from the car - it was already there when I parked



Top up - back window nice and clear



Custom all-LED driving and parking lights

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Note the panels-off paint job detail - clean front compartment



Repainted the stock plenum and valve covers during the engine replacement

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The mesh in the custom Automoda decklid vents is OEM Pontiac and matches the mesh in the dashboard defrost vents - many details such as this lead to compliments and comments of, 'I didn't know they ever made a convertible Fiero...' - 'they' didn't!



New Optima RedTop gel-cell battery



3rd brake light from a 1988 Pontiac Sunbird convertible to continue the OEM appearance - painted at same time as rest of car

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LED lighting upgrades - driving lights come on automatically with parking lights but may be turned off independently of parking lights





LED side markers



Wheel center detail - subtle but sharp

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Hi, first, this is a very beautiful and unique car. I have a few questions and requests.

Regarding your comment about not replacing the convertible top at the top the damage occurred, you mentioned their being a "small rip and some marking to the convertible top fabric." Did you have this repaired? Can you please post a photo of this area?

How is the convertible top removed and stored?

Also, are there braces in the lower portion of the door opening to support the frame or is the car supported from underneath? If in the door opening can you please post a photo of this support beam?

Can you please post photos of the interior?

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Originally posted by Grabber Green:

Hi, first, this is a very beautiful and unique car. I have a few questions and requests.

Regarding your comment about not replacing the convertible top at the top the damage occurred, you mentioned their being a "small rip and some marking to the convertible top fabric." Did you have this repaired? Can you please post a photo of this area?


Greetings - thanks for the kind words and your interest!

I did not have the fabric professionally repaired - it was a very small area that was affected and in my opinion did not warrant the complete replacement of the fabric top. However, I did back the damaged area with iron-on reinforcement tape to protect it and prevent further damage. The damage has not worsened over time. The marking I refer to is a spot along one of the edges that (I'm guessing) the deer's antler rubbed against the fabric along one of the support braces - it's not torn, just marked. I'll be happy to post a couple pics as soon as I'm able.

There is also one small hole that was there when I originally purchased the top from V8 Archie - it must have happened while it was in storage before I acquired it. This I also applied iron-on reinforcement tape and it has not enlarged beyond how it was at first installation. I'll show this as well.

 
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How is the convertible top removed and stored?


When the top is up, the roof panels are locked in place by four heavy-duty Dzus-style fasteners per panel. They unlock with about a half-turn and are captive to the roof panels. When the panels are out, they store neatly behind the seats against the firewall - the thicker part of the panel (the outside edge) fits at the bottom and the thinner center portion of the panel is at the top, so the seats retain their full range of motion even when the panels are stored.

The panels are rigid, made from a welded aluminum frame with a flat fiberglass panel flush-riveted on top, then covered with fabric to match the rear portion of the roof. They utilize the original Fiero rubber window molding along the tops of the door glass. The inside surface of the roof panels was simply painted black, but I added foam-backed headliner material to better match the interior of the car and to give it a more professional and finished appearance.

The rear arch mechanism unlocks by moving the bracing at the rear of the windows forward and the entire rear arch folds flat behind the headrests. The fabric in the sail panel area collapses flat along with the telescoping rod that maintains the edge of the 'sail panel' when the top is up.

The car can be driven in targa or full convertible mode as you prefer, and in neither case is the storage capacity of the trunk affected in any way.

I'll be glad to post more detailed pics as soon as I'm able.

 
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Also, are there braces in the lower portion of the door opening to support the frame or is the car supported from underneath? If in the door opening can you please post a photo of this support beam?


All of the bracing is underneath the car - there is no incursion into the door openings whatsoever. The all-steel framing runs from the front crossmember diagonally back to the frame at the forward engine cradle mounts, and also incorporates additional diagonal bracing in between. There is one crossbar at the rear of this bracing that is bolted in to allow the rear of the fuel tank to be dropped down - the diagonal crossbracing crosses towards the front of the fuel tank. I have removed the fuel tank on this car with no difficulty from the bracing - in fact, I found it even easier because the framing supports the forward end of the tank during reinstallation.

The framing (as mentioned above) was custom-designed by two gentlemen at a custom race car shop in Tennessee that designs and builds entire, complete stock car chassis and frames. The car has felt completely solid from Day One, and I have no reservations about the strength and rigidity of their handiwork. If I'd had any reservations whatsoever I'd have had them attended to right from the start, but they pride themselves on doing the job right the first time, and they did.

I don't have a lift, but will do my best to take clear pictures of this framing and post them as soon as I'm able.

 
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Can you please post photos of the interior?


Yes, I'll be happy to - I meant to take some this weekend but got sidetracked.

 
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Thank YOU!

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I think Daniel was looking for some info on this

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I think Daniel was looking for some info on this



Patrick offered me his car last week ...... you wont believe how frustrating it is for me to let this car go by. I have invested 7K so far for my convertible and I really cant turn back now. If this car would of been up for sale 3 months ago you wouldn't be reading this sale thread ..... this car would be in my garage as we speak !! I always wanted an 88 convertible but I have to settle for an 87 GT V8 convertible. I hope this beautiful car gets a new home. 88 Formula Automoda top what more could be better than that ....
Thanks to all the PFF members for the heads up !!!!
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OK, Grabber Green - here are the clarifications you asked about.



Here is the small rip I was talking about - it's 3/4" long and backed with tape. As mentioned, it has not worsened in the years it has been this way.



This is the 'marking' I mentioned - it runs along the edge of the 'sail panel' area. The camera flash actually makes it look more pronounced than it is.



This is the small hole that was existing when I acquired the top - it is about 3/8" x 3/4". It is backed with reinforcement tape, is blocked by the telescoping bar that runs down the edge of the 'sail panel' and has not worsened over the last few years. It originally stretched open a bit once the top was installed and the fabric stretched a bit, but it hasn't gotten worse from that point.
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I tried from many angles but was unable to take a clear shot of the details of the underframing - there's just not enough space underneath the car to get an in-focus shot.

There are two sections of thick-wall, rectangular steel tube that are welded from the ends of the front crossmember back along the floorpan, diagonally back to the location on the frame where the forward part of the cradle mounts to the framerail. There is then a piece that connects the end of this tube to the framerail itself just forward of the cradle mounting point. Movement/removal of the cradle is uncompromised.

There are then two crossed diagonal braces welded in between these two framing pieces to provide additional strength and rigidity. These form an 'X' and cross underneath the front third of the fuel tank. There is a crossbar mounted between the rearward ends of the previously-mentioned rails - the ends are bolted into place into welded fittings to provide additional side-to-side strength (although the designers felt that this probably wasn't really needed). It unbolts and moves out of the way to allow the rear part of the fuel tank to drop and slide out of the tunnel.

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OK, here's the info on the top:



Top fully up



D/S roof panel out



Roof panel interior detail



Fold D/S seat forward



(note fuel door release - fuel door can be opened without moving seat, but this shot shows good detail)



Put roof panel behind seat
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D/S seat back into position



P/S roof panel out, seat folded forward, roof panel into position behind seat



P/S seat back into position - roof in 'targa' mode

BTW - I am a tall guy - the seats are ALL the way back. And the roof panels still fit without any problems.

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Rear section fully up



Beginning collapse



Continuing collapse



Rear section fully down



Full convertible mode
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Detail shots















It doesn't get any better than this!
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Damn, Wish I had a garage
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I've seen this car up close and it's a great car. Good luck with the sale.

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If it was between this and a yellow Solstice I would probably take the latter, but it would be really, really tempting. Nice.
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If it was between this and a yellow Solstice I would probably take the latter, but it would be really, really tempting. Nice.


Thank you both for the kind words.

Vin - when you put the top down on your Solstice, doesn't that wipe out the trunk space? I hadn't seen that facet of it in person, although yours is a really sweet ride.
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It takes up about half the trunk space. Believe it or not I prefer the Fieros trunk either way.
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It takes up about half the trunk space. Believe it or not I prefer the Fieros trunk either way.


Ah, gotcha - sorry about that, that bit of misinformation must get repeated more often than it is claimed that 'Fieros catch fire'.

I looked long and hard at the Sky back in the day but wasn't willing to give up what storage space I was used to. As it was, the Mrs. and I could *just* pack what we needed for 5th anniversary trip to the mountains in the Formula last year. Any less wouldn't do for us.
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OK, let's hear some offers for this thing... I can't believe nobody here wants a finished Automoda convertible with a new engine and recent paint...

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I would love to have just not in a position to buy it.

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Still available - asking price dropped a bit.

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*bump* to the top...

Offers accepted - contact me if you're seriously interested.

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PM replied - still available.

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New steering wheel



Added panels for suction-cup mounting of cellphone and GPS units (one on each side of instrument pod)





Detail of Radiator Fan Manual 'On' Switch built into driver's side ashtray - also room to store my Bluetooth earpiece, coins, etc.



Ashtray door still closes to conceal the Radiator Fan switch and Bluetooth

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Custom all-LED driving and parking lights



I've always liked the way you did the driviing lights.
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I've always liked the way you did the driviing lights.


Thanks! I always like adding white driving lights to my cars in some sort of OEM-believable way.

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*bump*

Only two shopping days left before Christmas!

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Would it fit in my Christmas stocking ................man you are one heck of a tease ,,,, Merry Christmas to you,,,,, I'm waiting on my bank manager to give me an answer but what kills me is getting the car up here !!!!!
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Would it fit in my Christmas stocking ................man you are one heck of a tease ,,,, Merry Christmas to you,,,,, I'm waiting on my bank manager to give me an answer but what kills me is getting the car up here !!!!!
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According to Google Maps, it's 16-1/2 hours drive time - I could meet you half way if that works for you.
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According to Google Maps, it's 16-1/2 hours drive time - I could meet you half way if that works for you.


Winter tires ?? will let you know as soon as my banker gives me the details.....probably after Chrismas for we are flying into Dallas tomorrow afternoon.
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Winter tires ?? will let you know as soon as my banker gives me the details.....probably after Chrismas for we are flying into Dallas tomorrow afternoon.
Danyel


It's got new all-season tires with roughly 1500 miles on them. They're not going to stick to ice, but then nothing will... *chuckle* Can't buy studded tires here in North Carolina, but I'm sure you can get some when you get it home.

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