these brackets are made so that the engine is in the right place in the car.In 2007 the first of these brackets were used.Over 100,000 miles has been put on this set .A set for 84-87 and a set for 88 subframes (cradle) . $275 saves you weeks of work.Install ,when the subframe is out,can be done in a weekend.
As they say "one picture is worth 1000 words" . I have a friend who is about to begin an Ecotec swap but I understand that this engine mounts differently depending on model year. I passed on your name and he should be contacting you . I hope that you can help him.
------------------ " THE BLACK PARALYZER" -87GT 3800SC Series III engine, custom ZZP /Frozen Boost Intercooler setup, 3.4" Pulley, Northstar TB, LS1 MAF, 3" Spintech/Hedman Exhaust, P-log Manifold, Autolite 104's, MSD wires, Custom CAI, 4T65eHD w. custom axles, Champion Radiator, S10 Brake Booster, HP Tuners VCM Suite. "THE COLUSSUS" 87GT - ALL OUT 3.4L Turbocharged engine, Garrett Hybrid Turbo, MSD ign., modified TH125H " ON THE LOOSE WITHOUT THE JUICE "
As stated in the opening there is two kits.One is for 84-87 and the other is for 88.The difference is in the space between the side rails.This difference allows for the split line on the bellhousing to fall in the right place , so the trans will be located so the axles will fall to a proper place .Yes a lot of work goes into doing it right.
As stated in the opening there is two kits.One is for 84-87 and the other is for 88.The difference is in the space between the side rails.This difference allows for the split line on the bellhousing to fall in the right place , so the trans will be located so the axles will fall to a proper place .Yes a lot of work goes into doing it right.
Perhaps my wording was wrong. The Ecotec engine was offered by GM for 13 years in a number of iterations.I believe that the mounting points on these engines was not all the same for the entire run. The question would be; will your mounts fit all the Ecotec engines made or perhaps just some specific model years like the Gen 1 designs.
------------------ " THE BLACK PARALYZER" -87GT 3800SC Series III engine, custom ZZP /Frozen Boost Intercooler setup, 3.4" Pulley, Northstar TB, LS1 MAF, 3" Spintech/Hedman Exhaust, P-log Manifold, Autolite 104's, MSD wires, Custom CAI, 4T65eHD w. custom axles, Champion Radiator, S10 Brake Booster, HP Tuners VCM Suite. "THE COLUSSUS" 87GT - ALL OUT 3.4L Turbocharged engine, Garrett Hybrid Turbo, MSD ign., modified TH125H " ON THE LOOSE WITHOUT THE JUICE "
Yes the Ecotek engine block has been changed over the last fifteen or so years.Where my brackets bolt on seem not to have changed.Most of the big changes have been to the heads and oil pans.Most of these changes have allowed them to be used on older blocks.One thing I have noted is the exhaust has stayed the same .That is one exhaust manifold seems to fit all years.
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how about a 2016, 2.0 LTG motor? The exhaust and intake are 180' from the early motors. I have a 2016 motor and it would be fit into an 88 cradle. Does your kit work?
Thank you for showing me this motor .This is something new to me.The block has many points the same as other Ecotek . The head seems to be the big change.I would have to see more pix to see if the mounting points are the same.What year is it and what did it come out of?
2016 Buick Regal. It came with the 6T70 auto trans, but I picked up the 2014-2018 F40 manual trans for it. The trans is unique to this motor b/c the starter is on the other side. I'll send some pics soon.
What year are you going to use so I can tell you what to do.
I was inquiring for a friend. As he doesn't frequent this forum, I will pass on the comment to him but I still maintain that with the Ecotec one size doesn't fit all. I would recommend that you specifically state what model years your mounts will fit as it may make things go smoother.
------------------ " THE BLACK PARALYZER" -87GT 3800SC Series III engine, custom ZZP /Frozen Boost Intercooler setup, 3.4" Pulley, Northstar TB, LS1 MAF, 3" Spintech/Hedman Exhaust, P-log Manifold, Autolite 104's, MSD wires, Custom CAI, 4T65eHD w. custom axles, Champion Radiator, S10 Brake Booster, HP Tuners VCM Suite. "THE COLUSSUS" 87GT - ALL OUT 3.4L Turbocharged engine, Garrett Hybrid Turbo, MSD ign., modified TH125H " ON THE LOOSE WITHOUT THE JUICE "
What I can tell you is that , with the Ecotek I have worked with,the oil pans , exhaust manifolds and intermediate shafts are all interchangable.The water pump,thermostat , alternater and AC all bolt up to each other. The holes where the brackets screw on are in the right places.These engines you are showing may have the same basic block with 180 degree heads.It will be interesting to find out.
I saw a Saab turbo in my friends shop the other day with a 5 speed. I gather this is pretty much the same motor as the Ecotech, but it can be had in a non turbo 6 speed configuration. Would your brackets work with this also?
Coming to the Carlisle show to hunt up a few of these swaps to get ideas and advice.
Thanks, Mark
------------------ Mark Hoagland 86 1/2 GT 3.4 5-speed 355 nose and tailights REAL bright yellow
I saw a Saab turbo in my friends shop the other day with a 5 speed. I gather this is pretty much the same motor as the Ecotech, but it can be had in a non turbo 6 speed configuration. Would your brackets work with this also?
Coming to the Carlisle show to hunt up a few of these swaps to get ideas and advice.
Rob, that was what was in the Saab, it was definitely older one and had many issues. Not well taken care of I guess. It was getting a turbo and several sensors. Does anyone know the designation for the bigger horse motor that comes with the six speed? I think that would be the one I would like to use. Finding a turbo motor that has not been abused may be kind of tough. The bigger motor, I believe , does not get a turbo.
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Rob, that was what was in the Saab, it was definitely older one and had many issues. Not well taken care of I guess. It was getting a turbo and several sensors. Does anyone know the designation for the bigger horse motor that comes with the six speed? I think that would be the one I would like to use. Finding a turbo motor that has not been abused may be kind of tough. The bigger motor, I believe , does not get a turbo.
not sure but I do know that the 2.0 Turbo also came with a F40 6 speed, I picked up one off a 07 Saab. It has the ECOTEC bellhousing and will only work with those motors. I planned on putting it behind a LSJ supercharged 2.0 motor I also have.
The LK9 was in the 2003-2011 9440 body, aka "Sport Sedan" or "Sport Combi." In the US, it was either 175hp (2.0t, B207L) or 210hp (2.0T, B207R). The F35 was standard all years, the F40 was on certain trims except in 2005 and 2006. All these motors were run by Trionic 8, but there were some subtle differences in the motor over time.
The other motor in these cars was the LP9 / B284 from 2006 to 2009. The manual was always an F40. Output was 250hp-280hp depending on year/trim. All are run by Bosch ME9.
All Saab motors from 1999 on are turbocharged.
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