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The Official "Mantis" Thread by FieroRumor
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WE HAD BABIES!!!!

Alex was in labor for 4 hours and 30 mins. Most of em came out the right way... we had a few feet first and a pre-me.. but all is well.





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Mama holding her son (or daughter...)






im the proud father of 15-16 babies...gonna go hunt for real freash food in a bit.. lil bugs + such....
i wonder how much 16 packs of micro diapers are? is there mantid formula?
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so let me get this strait, did you name your ooth alex? only 16? i thought people were getting hundreds of these little guys. if i was home more, that would be kind of a cool pet to have. that or walking sticks
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ha...well go back a pg, BekaintaFunk.. thats Alex, my g/f+house mate
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OMG! I kinda figured they weren't going to hatch, and then..whammo! One of mine popped! There are about 50 of the little buggers running all over! So I came here wondering if anyone else had theirs pop, and saw yer posts!

They seem to be smaller then the Chinese mantid babies.

Great pics, BobadooFunk!

I hafta order some flies!

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I'm still waiting for mine. Maybe all is not lost?
Hay Bobadoofunk are those the Ebay ooths or the Fierorumor ooths?
And who gets to live in the palace and where do the less fortunate get to live?
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I'm still waiting for mine. Maybe all is not lost?
Hay Bobadoofunk are those the Ebay ooths or the Fierorumor ooths?
And who gets to live in the palace and where do the less fortunate get to live?


Another member sent me these ooth's so far i dont even know which one hatched... i have 5 more!

i also ordered 4 MORE off of bay and All my Mantis's live in my 55 gal. eco systam.. plants, scorpions, crickets, and now a bunch of tiny critters for mantid food.

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Hay Bobadoofunk are those the Ebay ooths or the Fierorumor ooths?


those are the Deabionni ooths, I think...

If they were mine (chinese) they woul dbe larger, not so brown, and their abdomens would look different.

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I know your girlfreinds name. I just find it weird that she gave birth to mantids. maybe you should lay off that mountain dew.
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Aw... Rumor, i just re-read the first pg, i want to give you a big THANKS for taking the time not only to write out what we should do, but send out SO MANY Ootheca's!!

on another note.... another Ootheca hatched AND we actually watched some crawl out!! awesome!

aaaaaand me and the ms. caught at least 15 mantids around the house today... then we figured out a way to better seal the lid saran wrap and lots of holes. but watching them crawl out was awesome. o and we did catch a mantid from the 1st hatch eating a new one o well, i expected it... we have a few ootheca's left in the tank, and 4 more on their way!! i am buying another tank on friday
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Heh, Glad you are having success with your hatchlings! I discovered that a bunch of mine had gotten out, luckily, they tend to crawl to the highest spots, so I found most of them on the tippy-tops of some of my statues...

The enclosure I made was too humid for them, and I lost a bunch due to that, but the rest are doing well in a new enclosure.
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pretty much EVERY dark lil thing is a mantid!



can you find the scorpians?

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One of our "European" ooths hatched the other day.





They don't quite seem to grasp the concept of why the fruit flies are in there with them. Everytime one of the fruit flies comes close to one of them, they jump out of the way!

We're still waiting to see if our other "European" ooth, and Rumor's "Chineese" ooth will hatch.
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Yeah, those European nymphs are a bit of a pain in the neck... You don't want yer container to be TOO big, or they won't be able to find their food.

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Anything new? Any pics of your little buddies?

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every single one of mine has passed away... and it could be a multitude of reasons... but mainly was to humid a while back... but i have 4 more ooths waitin to hatch and have separate tanks till they get big enough to survive in the big tank
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Mine have all died. Although the flies I bought are all doing well. Oh well. Kevin
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Those European mantids are not as "Hardy" as the chinese ones.

Splinter is making her first Ooth as I type this!

It won't be fertile, but it's still amazin'...
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hmmm.. well funny thing is....

2 of my ebay ooths hatched.... and holy crap did they hatch..

about 200 or so from one ooth

and about 250 from the other.. (not to easy to count but they sat still for a lil bit so i did my best....)




these are SO much diffeent from the other ones i had... they other ones were fragile, stumbled alot (it was cute tho), and small
these are bigger, faster, and they HOP! alot!

i have all of the mantids from one ooth in this small container.. im gonna wait till there are only a few left to transfer
and the other ooth hatched in my BIG tank.. some will be food, but i think quite a few will make it

anyone have an extra fly vial

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wow, That's a LOT of babies!
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3rd one hatched!! tons mooooore!!
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the whole back of the tank is covered in em!! and i still have an ooth left! (im betting itll hatch tonight..)
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Don't forget to mist them slightly so they have somethin' to drink! (They are so small, a little "mist" on the side will be plenty for 'em...
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o yea i been mistin perfectly... they have already started eating eachother but i got someone on my side doin me an awesome fav. thx Mr. Mysterio!
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one of two bigger ones left!

theyve tripled in size!

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one of two bigger ones left!

theyve tripled in size!



Looks good, what's its name?

What are ya feedin' it? Looks like it can eat baby crickets and other fun bugs now...

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so far Alex wants to call it Fred.

we feed it whatever e catch outside (which tends to be multitudes of potato bugs..) but some crickets and millipedes etc.
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so far Alex wants to call it Fred.

we feed it whatever e catch outside (which tends to be multitudes of potato bugs..) but some crickets and millipedes etc.


That's cool. Mantids will eat pretty much anything.
(especially the Chinese ones)

Hey look ---> I was looking through some old floppies, and lolok! An Ascii mantis head I made way back in 1995! Sheesh.



(I posted it as a gif cuz the forum smushifies ascii stuff...)
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Fred eating a potato bug



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Very cute.

Wanna see somethin' REALLY nasty?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sesYpFdGSTY

about 6 minutes into it... OMG!

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Very cute.

Wanna see somethin' REALLY nasty?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sesYpFdGSTY

about 6 minutes into it... OMG!

yech.




WOW!

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I took these a couple of weeks ago and totally forgot to post them





There were about a hundred or so on the car , so i guess the egg was on the car somewhere.

I guess Mantis's like fieros !

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Originally posted by FIEROPHREK:

There were about a hyndred or so on the car , so i guess the egg was on the car somewhere.

I guess Mantis's like fieros !



Dang! They were supposed to wait till you weren't lookin', THEN they'd grab yer keys or hotwire the car and drive it to the secret location...

*grumbles*


Every time some of 'em DO manage to snag a Fiero, they never bring it where they should... I suppose they like it too much...

Good help is SO hard to find!


(thanks for sharin' the pics! )
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Blink, and ya miss it... ---> Dragonfly vs. "flower"

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I woke up this morning to about 300 more insane scambling beasties!



OMG Rumor... that is the coolest thing I have ever seen in a Mantis habitat! A giant wooden Mantis!
A giant wooden mantis that looked like a total PITA to put together, but I bet a computer geek with a ton of creativity probably would not have too much trouble.
What an incredible find! As the Linux server goes crashing down, Rumor can be found assembling wooden mantis play structures...

Any other pics of the wooden guy? It does look pretty neat in the biospehre... err, Mantisphere.

I am in my new place now... I would definately like to get on next years list.
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OMG Rumor... that is the coolest thing I have ever seen in a Mantis habitat! A giant wooden Mantis!
A giant wooden mantis that looked like a total PITA to put together, but I bet a computer geek with a ton of creativity probably would not have too much trouble.
What an incredible find! As the Linux server goes crashing down, Rumor can be found assembling wooden mantis play structures...

Any other pics of the wooden guy? It does look pretty neat in the biospehre... err, Mantisphere.

I am in my new place now... I would definately like to get on next years list.


LOl If a mantis had THAt many legs, I probably won't handle 'em that often...

That was HALF of a spider model I bought for my nephew once...we built it, and then he kinda ran around and played with it till it lost a few appendages...

The wooden Mantis lives happily in my cubicle at work.


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Quick stupid question....just caught one....what do i feed her? and how do i get the food to feed her? thanks
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Quick stupid question....just caught one....what do i feed her? and how do i get the food to feed her? thanks


How large is it? Does she(he) have wings? It'll eat almost anything ya stick in front of it, or touch to its mouth. Try feedin' it a bug. Give her some water , too. Spray her a little. (not "fresh" tap water, though!---> clorine)

Edit: Just saw yer other thread! Nice chinese, I believe that's a male you have there...(The female would have a larger abdomen)

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Glad I'm not a male orb-weaving spider!

From the NY Times:


This Can’t Be Love

By CARL ZIMMER
Published: September 5, 2006

Across the eastern United States, a gruesome ritual is in full swing. The praying mantis and its relative, the Chinese mantis, are in their courtship season. A male mantis approaches a female, flapping his wings and swaying his abdomen. Leaping on her back, he begins to mate. And quite often, she tears off his head.

The female mantis devours the head of the still-mating male and then moves on to the rest of his body. “If you put a pair together and come back later, you’ll just find the wings of the male and no other evidence he was ever there,” said William Brown, an evolutionary biologist at the State University of New York in Fredonia.

Sexual cannibalism has fascinated biologists ever since Darwin. It is not limited to mantises, but is also found in other invertebrates, including spiders, midges and perhaps horned nudibranchs.

Biologists have debated how this behavior has evolved in these species. Some have suggested that sexual cannibalism is just a result of a voracious female appetite. But experiments have also suggested that it is a strategy that females use to select the best fathers for their offspring.

Other scientists have found evidence that males may have had a role in the evolution of cannibalism. By surrendering themselves to their mates, males increase their reproductive success. Still other scientists have proposed that males actually go to great lengths to minimize their risk of being eaten.

As scientists look more closely at sexual cannibalism in many species, the emerging consensus is that all of these theories may be right. Different evolutionary pressures produce sexual cannibalism in different species.

“It’s not something that lends itself to a single, simple explanation,” said Mark Elgar of the University of Melbourne.

Sexual cannibalism became a hot topic of debate among biologists in 1984. Scientists from Cornell and the University of Texas at Austin proposed that it evolved because the males of some species could get an evolutionary advantage from being eaten. Their bodies could nourish the mothers of their offspring, raising the odds that those offspring would successfully hatch and grow up to produce their own offspring, thus carrying on the father’s genes.

The late Harvard biologist Stephen Jay Gould attacked this argument, calling it a prime example of how biologists had become “overzealous about the power and range of selection by trying to attribute every significant form and behavior to its direct action.”

Dr. Gould argued that sexual cannibalism was too rare to be significant. It is possible, he said, that females eat their mates simply because they mistake them for prey.

Subsequent research refuted parts of Dr. Gould’s argument. Some sexual cannibals, including female Chinese mantises, actually eat a lot of males. “One study estimated that 63 percent of the diet of females are male mantids,” Dr. Brown said. “So they’re the main food source.”

Other scientists have demonstrated that males can increase their chances of passing on their genes if they cooperate in their own death.

Male Australian redback spiders court females for up to eight hours by plucking the strands of their web. Once a male starts to mate, he promptly somersaults onto her fangs. He continues to mate as she feeds on him. In some cases, the male crawls a short distance away, courts the female again, and then mates a second time. He flips onto her fangs, and by the end of the second mating he is dead.

Male redback spiders benefit from cannibalism, but not because they can become food for their mates. Instead, Dr. Maydianne Andrade of the University of Toronto has found that males that are cannibalized mate more than twice as long as noncannibalized males. They also father twice as many offspring with a female that mates with other males.

“We’ve replicated the results three times — it’s definitely going on,” Dr. Andrade said.

Cannibalism provides males extra time to put a plug in a female’s sperm receptacle, Dr. Andrade’s research suggests. The plug prevents other males from fertilizing the female, thus raising the odds that the first male’s sperm will.

“It has to be placed quite precisely for it to function as a sperm plug,” Dr. Andrade said.

Male redback spiders, which have two sexual organs, also have adaptations to let them survive cannibalism long enough to mate twice. Female spiders have two receptacles, each of which must be fertilized by separate male organs. If a male redback dies before he has a chance to fertilize the second receptacle, his reproductive success plummets by half.

Dr. Andrade and her student Jeff Stoltz noticed that male redback spiders develop a pinched abdomen before they mate. “Imagine putting a belt around it and cinching it tight,” Dr. Andrade said. “It’s really striking, and it develops long before the males even touch the females.”

To understand why the spiders developed this belt, the scientists delivered wounds to male redbacks to mimic female cannibalism. They found that males that had developed the constriction survived longer and mated more successfully than males that had not.

Sexual cannibalism has been reported in the midge as well. Some believe that natural selection or perhaps simply appetite is behind the practice.
The constriction may help males survive by pushing the heart and other vital organs away from the female’s fangs. It may also reduce the flow of fluids out of the spider’s body.

Scientists have found other species in which males encourage their own cannibalism. One remarkable twist on this strategy is seen in a species of orb-weaving spiders. The males suddenly die as they mate. The male’s death may be a strategy for preventing other males from mating with the female. In death, its sexual organ becomes stuck in the female’s receptacle. Even if she feeds on the rest of his body, the organ remains behind, preventing her from receiving more sperm.

Some scientists are now investigating what sort of evolutionary pressures cause males to go along with their own demise. In some species, males have very few opportunities to mate, while each female may mate with multiple males. For these desperate males, the benefits of sacrificing themselves may outweigh the loss of future opportunities to mate. Dr. Andrade describes the strategy this way: “If you don’t have any other shot at it, do what you can now.”

Recently, Dr. Brown of SUNY Fredonia set out to test whether male Chinese mantises are complicit in their own deaths. Females clearly eat a lot of male mantids, but that does not necessarily mean that the males benefit. Dying while mating with one female robs them of the chance to mate with other females.

Dr. Brown decided to observe whether males did anything to increase their odds of survival during mating. Since hungrier females are more likely to eat their mates, he reasoned that males might approach hungry females differently from fed ones.

“We predicted that if the male is complicit, he’s just going to march into her jaws,” Dr. Brown said. “But if the male does not want to become her meal, then he should avoid the risk of being eaten.”

Dr. Brown and his undergraduate student Jonathan Lelito (now a graduate student at the University of Pittsburgh) placed males into containers with females. In some cases, the females had just feasted on crickets, and in other cases they were ravenous.

Male mantises responded very differently to hungry females and to full ones. They were more eager to approach full ones than hungry ones. When they did approach hungry females, they jumped onto their mates from farther away, possibly to lessen the chance of the female grabbing him.

Dr. Brown and Mr. Lelito also found that male mantises also took longer to jump off hungry females. Females sometimes grab males as they dismount, and so the males may have waited out of caution.

“It’s clearly a case of sexual conflict,” Dr. Brown said. “Males are not willing partners.”

The scientists report their findings in the August issue of American Naturalist.

“This really is the first good clean test of the idea that males are in conflict with females over this,” Dr. Andrade said.

Like mantises, males of some other species appear to go to great lengths not to be eaten. Male golden orb spiders can reduce their chances of being eaten by jumping onto females as they are eating something else. If they survive mating, they can increase their reproductive success by standing guard over their females and driving away other males.

Female hunger may be an important part of sexual cannibalism, but females may also use it for their own evolutionary benefit. In some species, they appear to choose which males they will cannibalize and how long they will let males mate before eating them. These choices may let the females exert some control over which males will father their offspring.

Dr. Brown also wonders whether female mantises have evolved ways to lure males to eat. Female mantises depend so much on male mantises for their diet that natural selection may favor females that can attract more males. Dr. Brown notes that male mantises are drawn to females by the odor of pheromones. He is investigating whether female mantises use the pheromones as a trap, rather than an honest signal.

“The most intriguing situation would be a mated female that’s hungry,” Dr. Brown said. “Does she boost her pheromones, not because she needs sperm but because she needs food?”

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