"The combined average temperature over global land and ocean surfaces for June 2014 was the highest on record for the month, at 0.72°C (1.30°F) above the 20th century average of 15.5°C (59.9°F)." Source.
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Article: The University of Dayton Divests "The University of Dayton, a Catholic, Marianist university, announced today it will begin divesting coal and fossil fuels from its $670 million investment pool. It is believed to be the first Catholic university in the nation to take this step.
"This action, which is a significant step in a long-term process, is consistent with Catholic social teachings, our Marianist values, and comprehensive campuswide sustainability initiatives and commitments under the American College and University Presidents' Climate Commitment," University of Dayton President Daniel J. Curran said. "We cannot ignore the negative consequences of climate change, which disproportionately impact the world's most vulnerable people. Our Marianist values of leadership and service to humanity call upon us to act on these principles and serve as a catalyst for civil discussion and positive change that benefits our planet."
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"For atoll island countries like mine lying less than two metres above the rising oceans, the ambition and architecture of the new agreement will play a big part in determining whether our countries survive into the second half of the century. It is quite simply a matter of life or death."
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Environmentalists have declared that global warming can’t be stopped without ending the “hegemonic capitalist system,” saying that cap-and-trade systems and conservation efforts are “false solutions.”
“The structural causes of climate change are linked to the current capitalist hegemonic system,” reads the final draft of the Margarita Declaration, presented at a conference including about 130 environmental groups.
“To combat climate change it is necessary to change the system,” the declaration adds.
Environmental activists met in the oil producing, socialist country of Venezuela as part of a United Nations-backed event to increase civil engagement in the lead up to a major climate conference.
But environmentalists surprised U.N. officials by offering up a declaration that not only seeks to end capitalism, but one that also opposes U.N.-backed efforts to fight global warming — namely, cap-and-trade and forest conservation programs.
Climate-change news analysis site RTCC reports that it’s unclear which groups signed onto the declaration, adding that it runs in the face of the “green economy” solutions to global warming backed by rich nations.
and no most pro-global warming scientists areNOT PAID for by the government SOME TEACH AT PRIVATE SCHOOLS OTHERS WORK FOR PRIVATE FOUNDATIONS OR INTERNATIONAL RESEARCH GROUPS A FEW WORK FOR CORPrats like major media
there is a real difference in research science and CORPrat lying scum but you fail totally to see it
...just curious as to where you 'think' they get their funding from then (must be from those money trees they are trying to save)??? Research is NOT cheap.
...and all pro-global warming scientists are PAID for by the government(s) (ultimately the taxpayer) - SO, what is your point???
Just because they are (if it is 100% true, no documentation I have seen) paid for by oil corps - according to some on here - automatically makes them 100% "LYING SACKS OF CHIT"
The heartland institute explicitly exists to protect the interests of the oil companies it represents. It does not exist to perform climate science or to conduct research.
Scientists - even "paid for by the taxpayer" - do not exist to protect governments' interests. They exist to conduct research. They did not get Ph.D's in rigorous fields of study to become so easily bought off, after all, credibility is important in science.
As an aside, I work as an engineer for a major airline. I would not protect my employer (who, like scientists, provides my "funding") by lying and falsifying data. I would rather find another job. And believe it or not, this attitude is the norm, not the exception.
"The Heartland conference was now in full swing and my brain began to melt. There was the usual monotony of badly put together Powerpoint slides, rambling speeches and desperate attempts to resurrect climate science controversies buried by actual scientists almost three decades ago. The speakers were being paid around $1,000 to attend, plus flights and large hotel suites.
The hundreds of sceptics around me not once questioned the bizarre, the illogical, the poorly constructed claims that swirled in front of our eyes. This parody of science was a deadly hybrid of 1970s Open University programmes and sub-Cirque du Soleil."
The heartland institute explicitly exists to protect the interests of the oil companies it represents. It does not exist to perform climate science or to conduct research.
Scientists - even "paid for by the taxpayer" - do not exist to protect governments' interests. They exist to conduct research. They did not get Ph.D's in rigorous fields of study to become so easily bought off, after all, credibility is important in science.
As an aside, I work as an engineer for a major airline. I would not protect my employer (who, like scientists, provides my "funding") by lying and falsifying data. I would rather find another job. And believe it or not, this attitude is the norm, not the exception.
well on the GW side BUT on the sceptics side lying and falsifying data is common and they do get paid to do exactly that as lies for pay is the ONLY reason a scam like HEARTLAND EXISTS
...just curious as to where you 'think' they get their funding from then (must be from those money trees they are trying to save)??? Research is NOT cheap.
why is the research funding sources so important to you ? BUT no interest at all in who funds the anti-GW efforts esp the lies ?
do you also question health care research or atomic research funding sources also ?
the scamming scum are all lined up on the extreme rightwing side on this subject they are getting paid to lie by HEARTLAND and others like them bro's K are major funders of the teaparty and other anti-tax groups there is a real 'VAST RIGHTWING CONSPIRACY'' ON anti-GW funded by coal & oil CORPrats
why is the research funding sources so important to you ? BUT no interest at all in who funds the anti-GW efforts esp the lies ?
do you also question health care research or atomic research funding sources also ?
the scamming scum are all lined up on the extreme rightwing side on this subject they are getting paid to lie by HEARTLAND and others like them bro's K are major funders of the teaparty and other anti-tax groups there is a real 'VAST RIGHTWING CONSPIRACY'' ON anti-GW funded by coal & oil CORPrats
No you are assuming that since they are paid by a certain group they must all be lairs.
Again, there are many research projects going on to help the environment that are funded by " oil CORPrats" so based on your definition these research projects are also scum of the earth as well since they are part of the evil oil empire.
...besides it is not like there hasn't been absolutely no lying on the global warmest side. I know, I know - they just chalk it up as a miscalculation or some other lame excuse. Why do you think they changed it from "global warming" to "climate change"?
No you are assuming that since they are paid by a certain group they must all be lairs.
Again, there are many research projects going on to help the environment that are funded by " oil CORPrats" so based on your definition these research projects are also scum of the earth as well since they are part of the evil oil empire.
...besides it is not like there hasn't been absolutely no lying on the global warmest side. I know, I know - they just chalk it up as a miscalculation or some other lame excuse. Why do you think they changed it from "global warming" to "climate change"?
no they are hired to lie for pay that is why they are scum
they have a long history going back to the tobacco CORP paid lies and have been caught repeatedly lying but your side never notices the lies WHY ?
This is the 15 July satellite view of the Arctic ice field. It also shows the median.
You will notice that the Northwest Passage is all iced up.
There has been frequent predictions based on Global Warming, that the Arctic Ocean would be open water all year round. You have to look at old newspapers.
Nasa, scientists have long promoted the notion of free ocean in the Arctic.
NASA climate scientist Jay Zwally said: “At this rate, the Arctic Ocean could be nearly ice-free at the end of summer by 2012, much faster than previous predictions.”
In 2007 National Geographic predicted the total loss of summer ice in the Arctic by 2012
The Wieslaw Maslowski Naval Postgraduate School posted this model in support.
The fear mongering has been shown to be false and misleading. Dress it up all you want, but the facts don't match the speculations.
Arn
If the IPCC and NASA were dead wrong that the Arctic Ocean would be open this year, and now they are claiming it will be open in another 50 years, why are they right now? It is obvious that their political masters and payroll sponsors want to hear the Global Warming doctrine so they just keep pumping it out, despite it having been proven dead wrong. Maybe if Obumbles is booted out of the Whitehouse and a non-left wing demigog is elected, their forecasts will change too.
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Originally posted by Arns85GT: If the IPCC and NASA were dead wrong that the Arctic Ocean would be open this year, and now they are claiming it will be open in another 50 years, why are they right now? It is obvious that their political masters and payroll sponsors want to hear the Global Warming doctrine so they just keep pumping it out, despite it having been proven dead wrong. Maybe if Obumbles is booted out of the Whitehouse and a non-left wing demigog is elected, their forecasts will change too.
reality check how much did the real science change from bush1 to clinton to BuSh2 to mr O ? hint the CIA issure guides on what to expect during BuSh2's regime
hint two the temp are still setting record high right NOW
Originally posted by Arns85GT: If the IPCC and NASA were dead wrong that the Arctic Ocean would be open this year, and now they are claiming it will be open in another 50 years, why are they right now? It is obvious that their political masters and payroll sponsors want to hear the Global Warming doctrine so they just keep pumping it out, despite it having been proven dead wrong. Maybe if Obumbles is booted out of the Whitehouse and a non-left wing demigog is elected, their forecasts will change too.
There is a lot more going on up there, above the Arctic Circle, besides the extent of the summer sea ice, and you are oblivious to it. It all evidences significant global warming. I am looking at the second page of the same National Geographic report that you just posted. Melting of the Greenland Ice Sheet. Warming of the permafrost all the way down to 66 feet below the surface. Surface temperatures in the Arctic Ocean.
And your setting up a straw man argument for yourself by distorting what IPCC and NASA were saying about the Arctic Ocean. There was no consensus back in 2007 that the Arctic Ocean would be ice free in summer by 2012 or 2014. This is the last paragraph from the same National Geographic report :
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Last year [in 2006], Cecilia Bitz at the University of Washington and Marika Holland at the National Center for Atmospheric Research in Colorado startled their colleagues when they predicted an Arctic free of sea ice in just a few decades. Both say they are surprised by the dramatic melt of 2007.
Bitz, unlike others at NASA, believes that "next year we'll be back to normal, but we'll be seeing big anomalies again, occurring more frequently in the future."
And that normal, she said, is still a "relentless decline" in ice.
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"The combined average temperature over global land and ocean surfaces for June 2014 was the highest on record for the month, at 0.72°C (1.30°F) above the 20th century average of 15.5°C (59.9°F)." Source.
Originally posted by Doug85GT: Your previous post belies this one. A single month's temperature reading is a weather event, not a climate event.
I wonder how they knew June 2014 was the hottest June ever recorded. I guess they had some historical climate data to reference.
"The combined average temperature across global land and ocean surfaces for June 2014 was record high for the month, at 0.72°C (1.30°F) above the 20th century average. This surpasses the previous record, set in June 1998, by 0.03°C (0.05°F). Nine of the ten warmest Junes on record have occurred during the 21st century, including each of the past five years. June 2014 also marks the second consecutive month with record high global temperatures. With the exception of February (21st warmest), every month to date in 2014 has ranked among the four warmest for its respective month. Additionally, June 2014 marked the 38th consecutive June and 352nd consecutive month with a global temperature above the 20th century average. The last below-average global temperature for June was June 1976 and the last below-average global temperature for any month was February 1985." Source.
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Your previous post belies this one. A single month's temperature reading is a weather event, not a climate event.
Remember, you are dealing with LIARS. They adjust temperatures until they get their desired results, they say "weather isn't climate" when the weather makes the warming theory look bad, but will use weather when its benefits their scam. You can expect logic and reason from warmist religious zealots.
First, he cherry picks 10 years. All 10 of these years are below the 1981-2010 average.
Second, the source of his graph says the following about the last 10 years: "During the past 10 years the melting of sea ice has accelerated, and especially during the ice extent minimum in September large changes are observed." Source.
Third, he's throwing 30 years of data with a clear declining trend out the window in favor of 2 weeks of data that fits his agenda.
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Originally posted by fierobear: Antarctic Sea Ice Extent July 24 2014 – Smashes Daily Record By 240,000 sq km
"Here we show that accelerated basal melting of Antarctic ice shelves is likely to have contributed significantly to sea-ice expansion." Source.
I wonder how they knew June 2014 was the hottest June ever recorded. I guess they had some historical climatetemperature data to reference.
"The combined average temperature across global land and ocean surfaces for June 2014 was record high for the month, at 0.72°C (1.30°F) above the 20th century average. This surpasses the previous record, set in June 1998, by 0.03°C (0.05°F). Nine of the ten warmest Junes on record have occurred during the 21st century, including each of the past five years. June 2014 also marks the second consecutive month with record high global temperatures. With the exception of February (21st warmest), every month to date in 2014 has ranked among the four warmest for its respective month. Additionally, June 2014 marked the 38th consecutive June and 352nd consecutive month with a global temperature above the 20th century average. The last below-average global temperature for June was June 1976 and the last below-average global temperature for any month was February 1985." Source.
fixed it for you.
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Remember, you are dealing with LIARS. They adjust temperatures until they get their desired results, they say "weather isn't climate" when the weather makes the warming theory look bad, but will use weather when its benefits their scam. You can expect logic and reason from warmist religious zealots.
bear the ones caught lying and cheating are the anti-warming tax avoiding oil and coal CORPrat owners they seek out pro's at twisted lies , fund them and feed your boys talking points based on their lies you eat it all up never question them or check the data or even look for spin and repeat the BS here
Amazing how, when you have a cold month, weather isn't climate and one month is too short a time period to prove anything. But supposedly June 2014 - one month - is somehow proof that they are right. They may or may not be liars, but it's beyond a doubt they can't keep to their own rules. It's amazing anyone still listens to their crap.
Meanwhile, let's use their standard against them. If one month proves something, two months should REALLY prove it, right???
Says the guy who insists the 38th consecutive June with a global temperature above the 20th century average is a short term weather event.
You can't lie about your post, it is right there. All you have to do is scroll up or if you are truly lazy, click on the above link.
Just in case you try to edit it again, here it is, quoted:
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Originally posted by FlyinFieros:
"The combined average temperature over global land and ocean surfaces for June 2014 was the highest on record for the month, at 0.72°C (1.30°F) above the 20th century average of 15.5°C (59.9°F)." Source.
Amazing how, when you have a cold month, weather isn't climate and one month is too short a time period to prove anything. But supposedly June 2014 - one month - is somehow proof that they are right. They may or may not be liars, but it's beyond a doubt they can't keep to their own rules. It's amazing anyone still listens to their crap.
Meanwhile, let's use their standard against them. If one month proves something, two months should REALLY prove it, right???
It is the standard tactic of the alarmists. They use every warm weather pattern as evidence for them and ignore weather patterns that are contrary. The alarmists have made many weather predictions over the years and also ignore the weather outside of their windows when it contradicts their predictions.
I consider them equal to the dooms day nuts. They predict the Earth will end and when it doesn't happen, they just ignore it and make more predictions.
