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Planet-X, Nemesis, Niburu, Doomsday Planet--NASA space probe can't find it by rinselberg
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http://www.nbcnews.com/scie...s-no-planet-x-n47936

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A NASA spacecraft has pounded another nail into the coffin of the hypothetical solar system body called "Planet X" or "Nemesis."

Some astronomers have proposed the existence of an undiscovered planet or other large body in the outer reaches of the solar system, based on their analysis of changes in the orbits of far-out comets. But after scanning the entire sky, the space agency's Wide-Field Infrared Survey Explorer, known as WISE, found no signs of such objects.

The probe did, however, find several thousand new objects much farther out. . . .

One study, led by Kevin Luhman of Penn State University, found 762 new objects among the data, but no signs of a Saturn-sized object out to 10,000 times the Earth-sun distance, or 10,000 astronomical units. Nor did Luhman spot any Jupiter-size or larger objects out to 26,000 AU.

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It is only there when you don't look at it.
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No, it's there when you look at it, you just forget you saw it when you look away.
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Originally posted by pokeyfiero:

It is only there when you don't look at it.


Actually, according to M-theory, an object isn't really there until you look at it.. lol.. Weird stuff.

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Oh, it's there. Do you think NASA would just publicly confirm our inescapable doom? Imagine the mass panic. Much better to let the sheep graze in ignorance until the end comes.
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Actually, according to M-theory, an object isn't really there until you look at it.. lol.. Weird stuff.




That, and the energy we output just by observing it physically alters it's orbit and then causes a global catastrophe via gravitational shifts.
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It did exist. It also hit us. Long long ago. Its why we have the moon.
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Oh, it's there. Do you think NASA would just publicly confirm our inescapable doom? Imagine the mass panic. Much better to let the sheep graze in ignorance until the end comes.


I don't know if the damn this exists, but I certainly agree with what you've posted above, no way the Governments going to tell us about it if it's on a collision course with Earth.
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Oh, it's there. Do you think NASA would just publicly confirm our inescapable doom? Imagine the mass panic. Much better to let the sheep graze in ignorance until the end comes.


Good point, but members of the science community would leak the news out if there was truly any danger of something. Although within the last 10 years or so (don't remember exactly when they found it) They did observe a line of shifted dormant comets out in the ort cloud. Basically they saw a "line" in the ort cloud where it looked as if something very large and massive was passing close by too the comets, and pulling them towards it as it passed by disturbing a line of them as whatever it was passed by. They suspected a possible gas giant planet, or possibly a small brown dwarf star, or maybe even a really massive comet or asteroid, could be somewhere on the outer edge of the suns gravitational influence. They where unable to see whatever the object was directly and the disturbance in the comets subsided before they could study it further, so who knows what it was, but something massive (as least in weight if not size) is moving around out there..

There is also a small red dwarf star coming towards the sun, and is expected to actually pass through part of the ort cloud when it does, which could cause all kinds of trouble, but its not due to arrive for about 10,000 years.

Then there is VY Canis Majoris, a super star about 5000 light years away. Its over 2000 times larger (in diameter) than our sun, and almost 60 times as massive (weight).. The largest star (diameter wise) ever discovered. Its actually a dying star that could go super nova at any time (if it hasn't already). You might think, well, its 5000 light years away, if it blows up, won't effect us.. But actually even at that distance, the shock-wave of the blast would easily reach us, and could cause much havoc in our solar system. But the real kicker about this star is that one of its poles is aiming directly at us, and when a star that large and massive goes super nova, it will release a hugh amount of gamma rays (a gamma ray burst) which will head right at us, and literally fry anything it comes in contact with. The gamma rays shoot right out of both poles of the star, and is essentially the birth cry of a new black hole. Good news is, it would take 5000 years for the gamma burst to reach us. When it does eventually blow though, it should put on quite a show for star gazers. It will appear in the sky as a very large star, almost the size of the moon, but almost twice as bright, you will easily see it even in the daytime. Of course the bad part of that is, once you actually see the star explode, that means the star blew up 5000 years ago, and the light from the explosion finally reached us, which means, the gamma rays have already reached us too, as they travel at 99.9% the speed of light. So by the time we see it, its too late. Of course the gamma rays could miss us if we are lucky.

 
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It did exist. It also hit us. Long long ago. Its why we have the moon.


Your talking about Planet Theia, a planet about the size of Mars that may have hit us and created the moon. Thats not what they are referring too, there is evidence of something else out there on the outer edge of the ort cloud moving stuff around, they just don't know what.


Cool stuff.

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Thats not what they are referring too, there is evidence of something else out there on the outer edge of the ort cloud moving stuff around, they just don't know what.



It's something we cant talk about, i'm trying to save you all.
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When did the Oort Cloud become a fact? Far as I know they still haven't seen a black hole. I doubt they would see a Planet X either.
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When did the Oort Cloud become a fact? Far as I know they still haven't seen a black hole. I doubt they would see a Planet X either.


http://austriantribune.com/...k-hole-rx-j1131-1231

http://solarsystem.nasa.gov...Display=OverviewLong

Looks like they have observed them to me, in under 10 seconds of looking for examples. A little research perhaps?


But still, back to the actual topic, one must not speak of the gravity well out there, it will only anger them.

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Originally posted by Jonesy: Basically they saw a "line" in the ort cloud where it looked as if something very large and massive was passing close by too the comets, and pulling them towards it as it passed by disturbing a line of them as whatever it was passed by. They suspected a possible gas giant planet, or possibly a small brown dwarf star, or maybe even a really massive comet or asteroid, could be somewhere on the outer edge of the suns gravitational influence. They where unable to see whatever the object was directly and the disturbance in the comets subsided before they could study it further, so who knows what it was, but something massive (as least in weight if not size) is moving around out there..

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http://austriantribune.com/...k-hole-rx-j1131-1231

http://solarsystem.nasa.gov...Display=OverviewLong

Looks like they have observed them to me, in under 10 seconds of looking for examples. A little research perhaps?


But still, back to the actual topic, one must not speak of the gravity well out there, it will only anger them.



That's funny. Did you read your own links?
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That's funny. Did you read your own links?


That is your job, not mine.
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Far as I know they still haven't seen a black hole.


Seeing a black hole is an oxymoron.
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WISE only did 2 passes and both passes revealed things the other did not.
Seems pretty inconclusive to me.
Also seems funny that they are going out of their way to mention Planet X. Smells funny.

Most professional companies/businesses don't comment on rumors and speculations. Clearly NASA is not professional...
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New report says "Whoa, not so fast, there may be a big planet way out there, far beyond Pluto, in the Oort cloud. A big planet orbiting the sun. This planet--if it does exist--would be orbiting the sun at a distance that is "hundreds" of times farther away from the sun than Earth is from the sun. Even though this hypothetical planet could be many times larger than Earth, it would not be directly observable with current instruments, because of its extraordinary distance from Earth.

http://www.universetoday.co...beyond-plutos-orbit/
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Originally posted by Jonesy:
There is also a small red dwarf star coming towards the sun... but its not due to arrive for about 10,000 years.

Then there is VY Canis Majoris, a super star about 5000 light years away. Its over 2000 times larger (in diameter) than our sun, and almost 60 times as massive (weight).. The largest star (diameter wise) ever discovered. Its actually a dying star that could go super nova at any time (if it hasn't already).
You might think, well, its 5000 light years away, if it blows up, won't effect us.. But actually even at that distance, the shock-wave of the blast would easily reach us, and could cause much havoc in our solar system.

Good news is, it would take 5000 years for the gamma burst to reach us. .. Of course the bad part of that is, once you actually see the star explode, that means the star blew up 5000 years ago, and the light from the explosion finally reached us, which means, the gamma rays have already reached us too, as they travel at 99.9% the speed of light. So by the time we see it, its too late. Of course the gamma rays could miss us if we are lucky.



10000, 5000, etc years
That soon? Is the theory then that these things have never happened close before in the however many billions of years the earth is said to have existed? I mean one theory is an asteroid did the dinosaurs in, but something big like what you are saying...

Is there nothing close besides our sun?

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Interesting:

March 25, 2014
Source:Texas Tech University

"..the team observed the supernova was a mere 12 million light years away from Earth. Finding one so close is important, he said, because astrophysicists use these stars to map distances in the universe.
"These type Ia supernovae are very important to astronomers in general," he said. "They let us measure distances to within about 10 percent or so. These supernovae are very uniform, and the explosions emit the same intrinsic amount of light. So, if you think about the supernova being like a 60-watt light bulb, the light bulb in a room gives a brighter light intensity compared to a light bulb a mile away. They still give off the same amount of light though, so we're able to figure out about how far away it is."

In the last six months, Sand and others have confirmed 30 different supernovae with the new camera.

"If we can judge distances better than the plus-or-minus10 percent or so, I think this will lead to uncovering the details of dark energy we still need to understand," he said."


http://www.sciencedaily.com.../03/140325143135.htm

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But... if Niburu doesn't exist, then where do the lizard people come from?
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Regarding what 2.5 posted (just above), the last 500 million years of Earth history has seen five mass extinctions, spaced at roughly 100 million year intervals, in which a huge percentage of the world's species suddenly went extinct. Suddenly, in the geologic perspective. And there's been speculation that at least one of these mass extinction events could have been triggered by a sudden, powerful impact of gamma rays from a relatively nearby star that went supernova. I have seen that idea talked about on one of the countless science segments that have run on the cable TV channels.

The thinking was that the extraordinary gamma ray influx stripped away the Earth's high altitude ozone layer, leaving the marine and land surfaces exposed to a lethal or intensely damaging level of UV radiation from the sun. And part of the argument was fossil evidence that compared to the fate of other life forms, a significantly higher percentage of deep water marine species survived unscathed, because they were shielded from the sun's UV radiation by the depths of seawater at which they lived. I couldn't say which of the five commonly recognized mass extinctions they were talking about. I would have to try searching with Google for that kind of information.

You can safely wager that this gamma ray hypothesis is still considered highly speculative by the scientific community, and that there is no particular scientific consensus that this is actually what happened, and not some alternative explanation.

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Originally posted by Formula88:

Oh, it's there. Do you think NASA would just publicly confirm our inescapable doom? Imagine the mass panic. Much better to let the sheep graze in ignorance until the end comes.


NASA, much better informed than the NSA.

 
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Regarding what 2.5 posted (just above), the last 500 million years of Earth history has seen five mass extinctions, spaced at roughly 100 million year intervals, in which a huge percentage of the world's species suddenly went extinct.


How close are we to the next one? I don't have anything to wear.

 
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. . . dormant comets . . .



What a band! I saw them open for the Stones in Atlanta.

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Sitchin, now deceased, who originally started the Nibiru theory, stated that Nibiru isn't due until the 2900's when all this 2012 prophecy BS came out years ago...
If we got to wait 900 years to see it, I doubt you can see it now with a telescope...
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