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Major discovery bolsters the Big Bang Theory by Wichita
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People of Science has painstakingly worked to find a clue of the Big Bang that supported Einstein's General Relativity Theory. The inflation of the universe should have left a gravitational trace. After many decades and scientific work analyzing data to rule out errors, the have confirmed the finding of the Big Bang gravitational wave. Worthy of a Nobel Prize and considered one if the greatest astronomical findings of our time.

http://news.yahoo.com/scien...MQR2dGlkA1ZJUDM4NF8x

I'm sure people will post about the sitcom or the other thing, but its all good. Thought I would share some great scientific news.

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Was it created 6000 years ago? ( or some such nonsense )
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People Of Science. Note the initials. LOL!!

This is what you consider "great news"? How will it change your life?
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"Witchy" is planning to surf dem gravity waves.. I just know it.
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People Of Science. Note the initials. LOL!!

This is what you consider "great news"? How will it change your life?


Knowledge is power.
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Are there any sites that describe their methods? I am really curious how they detected the gravity waves using telescopes.
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Knowledge is power.


Well...enjoy wielding your new-found knowledge and all the power that accompanies it!
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Where did the matter in the Big Bang come from?
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Well...enjoy wielding your new-found knowledge and all the power that accompanies it!


You dont understand how science works apparently. Hint: its incremental .
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Where did the matter in the Big Bang come from?


From another universe.
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Well...enjoy wielding your new-found knowledge and all the power that accompanies it!

One step closer to getting off this rock.

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You dont understand how science works apparently. Hint: its incremental .


Incremental huh? Is that the same kind of incremental that allowed you to jump to the conclusion that I don't understand how science works based on my "enjoy" quote? Now that was some serious scientific method in action there, boys!

Now, back to the discussion, great news, knowledge, power, etc. In your wildest dreams, what would be the next steps that could be built upon this "discovery"?
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Incremental huh? Is that the same kind of incremental that allowed you to jump to the conclusion that I don't understand how science works based on my "enjoy" quote? Now that was some serious scientific method in action there, boys!

Now, back to the discussion, great news, knowledge, power, etc. In your wildest dreams, what would be the next steps that could be built upon this "discovery"?


It isn't worth explaining.
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It isn't worth explaining.


Riiiiight!
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There's more about this at Wired.com, aspects of this that I didn't see covered in the few other reports that I looked at:
http://www.wired.com/wireds...es-b-mode-inflation/
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Riiiiight!


No really, i'm not in the mood to explain things to people that clearly would not be able to understand in the first place.
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No really, i'm not in the mood to explain things to people that clearly would not be able to understand in the first place.


I don't remember sending my IQ, SAT score, GPA, ASVAB score or any other measure of intellegence to you. This must be another example of your high-speed incremental science!!

Fail. Don't worry about it. I don't need an answer.
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i've had this conversation before.
 
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Where did the matter in the Big Bang come from?

a: from god, of course.
b: where did god come from?
a: god is eternal
b: so, before (?) there was time, or matter, or energy, or anything at all, there was this eternal, omnipotent, omniscient, sentient being that deliberately created everything? matter, energy, time, life, good and evil, all of that?
a: yes
b: how do you know?
a: the bible tells me/it's obvious, look around/he speaks to me.

oh.
kay.

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Isn't learning more about the universe we live in a good thing?
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People Of Science. Note the initials. LOL!!

This is what you consider "great news"? How will it change your life?


OK. Are you not a Pastor or something? Whatever it is, I am pretty sure being snide to others isn't necessary. Nice of you to come in guns blazing.

I like science. I guess I am a POS? Huh?

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Isn't learning more about the universe we live in a good thing?


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I don't remember sending my IQ, SAT score, GPA, ASVAB score or any other measure of intellegence to you. This must be another example of your high-speed incremental science!!

Fail. Don't worry about it. I don't need an answer.



Hey, You started some **** ,you should put in the effort to finish it.

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i've had this conversation before.
a: from god, of course.
b: where did god come from?
a: god is eternal
b: so, before (?) there was time, or matter, or energy, or anything at all, there was this eternal, omnipotent, omniscient, sentient being that deliberately created everything? matter, energy, time, life, good and evil, all of that?
a: yes
b: how do you know?
a: the bible tells me/it's obvious, look around/he speaks to me.

oh.
kay.



Actually, a serious question...I had never heard that part of the BBT addressed.
Is it based upon n assumption of existing matter?

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Knowledge is power.

Perceived knowledge is disaster.
 
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You dont understand how science works apparently. Hint: its incremental .

Heh, God created science too.
 
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No really, i'm not in the mood to explain things to people that clearly would not be able to understand in the first place.

Hee hee hee hee, haw, . Thanks for the laugh.
One can not understand God without knowing God. Ignorant people think they know it all.

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Hey, You started some **** ,you should put in the effort to finish it.


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People Of Science. Note the initials. LOL!!

This is what you consider "great news"? How will it change your life?

Well...enjoy wielding your new-found knowledge and all the power that accompanies it!
Incremental huh? Is that the same kind of incremental that allowed you to jump to the conclusion that I don't understand how science works based on my "enjoy" quote? Now that was some serious scientific method in action there, boys!

Now, back to the discussion, great news, knowledge, power, etc. In your wildest dreams, what would be the next steps that could be built upon this "discovery"?



You're innocent!

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OK. Are you not a Pastor or something? Whatever it is, I am pretty sure being snide to others isn't necessary. Nice of you to come in guns blazing.

I like science. I guess I am a POS? Huh?



Not in any way a pastor. Am I somehow excluded from showing my humor? What member here is also a member of POS? Do I expect any of them to see this thread? Who was I attacking? Who did I point my guns at? I don't understand your statement for a minute.

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Actually, a serious question...I had never heard that part of the BBT addressed.
Is it based upon n assumption of existing matter?

there are people here eminently more qualified than i am to address this. however, my understanding is that the big bang was a rupturing black hole, so yes, the matter would have pre-existed.
i've never been happy with the big bang myself, preferring steady-state, but that seems to have fallen into disfavor since the 70s. IMO, the "universe"(our local space/time continuum) is a sort of bubble, expanding and contracting as other surrounding bubbles also expand and contract, each "created" by a big bang-type event. the Big Bang event is neither a beginning nor an end, but a transition state. obviously, i don't know the actual state of affairs.

oops, i see i have misunderstood classical steady-state, which posits that matter is continuously created.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steady_State_theory
nevertheless, i still adhere to my "bubble" notion, because big bang explains things on too small a scale.

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You're innocent!



Of what?
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Thanks for posting the links to those articles. Interesting stuff...

The sad part was, I knew this thread would devolve into a b!tch-fest before I even opened it.
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The sad part was, I knew this thread would devolve into a b!tch-fest before I even opened it.


Not really. Nobody has disputed the findings or the methods. Nobody has been called any names. Nobody has explicitly put down another's faith belief system. All in all, I'd say this was the most "family friendly" thread I've read in a while!
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This dimension-burp is fine for me.
Others are better, with an equal number that are worse.

I always stay on 16...
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Hmmm.....religious nutcases hijack intelligent science thread because they can't accept theories that go against their chicken waving deity's "book" of crap...there's something new....
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Where did the matter in the Big Bang come from?


Matter is just energy in a different form. So the better question might be where did all of the energy come from.
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So the better question might be where did all of the energy come from.


And where did all the gravity go?
A lot of it is missing...
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Matter is just energy in a different form. So the better question might be where did all of the energy come from.


Same question.

Where did "it" come from?

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Hmmm.....religious nutcases hijack intelligent science thread because they can't accept theories that go against their chicken waving deity's "book" of crap...there's something new....


Not a single person has stated the first thing that comes anywhere close to disputing anything scientific here. Of course that hasn't stopped all the usual suspects from bashing Christianity even though not a single Christian has made any faith proclamations. Nothing new indeed.
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Hmmm.....religious nutcases hijack intelligent science thread because they can't accept theories that go against their chicken waving deity's "book" of crap...there's something new....


'There are those that enjoy the products of science but rejects it's methods.'
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'There are those that enjoy the products of science but rejects it's methods.'


Straw man.
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Straw man.


Demonstrated fact.
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