Doing a chain hotel in Portland Maine. Things are wrapping up and the GC is cleaning up the site. Well for the last month or so there have been 2 skids of this metal just sitting there. About 50 sheets of it. So I asked the GC what gives. He explained that the company they ordered from had a minimum purchase amount and they had to buy all of it. Well instead of his office guy saying keep the extra stuff, his office guy had them ship it all. The GC said were going to throw it all in the dumpster, about $4000 worth of sheet metal. So I asked him if I could have it and he gladly said yes. Take all of it if you like.
So I had a friend stop over with his F250 and we loaded it up till the rubbers were about touching. 14 sheets fit in his truck without weighing it down too much. Were going to have to make another couple of trips. I can't just watch them throw this stuff out when I can use some of it. And I feel like there may be some value to it.
As we were loading it up yesterday after work there were about 6 guys standing around BS'ing. All different trades. We were all just kinda standing around shooting the shizz. Well while we were there they threw away about 40 sheets of tempered glass sheets that were 8ft by 4ft. Shower doors. The engineer screwed the pooch and forgot to take into account the sheet rock on the ceiling when making his measurements. So It all went into the roll off dumpster with a loud SMASH!!
$1000's of $$$ of lumber, insulation, rolled roofing, wallpaper, sheet rock, bricks and just about everything you would need to remodel are going into the roll off dumpster every day. What a sad, sad waste.
So I am going to grab the sheet metal, as much as I can get. Going to build myself one BA powder coating oven. Then what ever else I need. Maybe a shed for my Gixxer or a trailer for out ATV's, IDK. Hell push come to shove, I could just bring it all in for scrap.
Any ideas on WTH I could do with all this metal? Mind you it is all free. Wind chimes?
I can give you another idea of waste on the job site. The owner is building a new facility here (car dealership) well he and the GC decided to erect the building starting in november/december completely enclosed it with metal siding and new glass. Never bothered to install heat, owner and gc both said the contracters will work faster if they are cold. Guess what, they didn't. So the floor heaved 7 inches in spots, cracked the entire length of the builing, shattered all the glass, twisted all the metal studs along the parts/shop wall. Then they decided in late febuary to bring in this giant "blanket" to heat the floor and get it to settle back down. Yeah 3 weeks later and the floor is still rising.
Just how thick is this stuff that it dropped a 3/4 ton pickup that low with 14 sheets?
You need an idea, call me I will take some off your hands, I can always use some sheet metal, no matter what the thickness. actually the thicker the better.
Seriously.
PS I thought I was the only one who called them skids.
Steve
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Just how thick is this stuff that it dropped a 3/4 ton pickup that low with 14 sheets?
Steve
I was wondering about the weight myself. According to this site http://www.coyotesteel.com/...eet_galvanized.shtml 18 gauge galvanizes weighs 2.156 pounds per square foot or 86.24 pounds per 4'x10' sheet. That would add up pretty fast but only 1207.36 pounds for 14 sheets. It was a Ford, so....
I was wondering about the weight myself. According to this site http://www.coyotesteel.com/...eet_galvanized.shtml 18 gauge galvanizes weighs 2.156 pounds per square foot or 86.24 pounds per 4'x10' sheet. That would add up pretty fast but only 1207.36 pounds for 14 sheets. It was a Ford, so....
Kevin
true and it depends on if they are flat or like most regular roofing have those ridges as well, but I thought he said it was a 3/4 ton? like you said he did say it was a Ford, and the older they get the more they sag. like women's boobs
I was wondering about the weight myself. According to this site http://www.coyotesteel.com/...eet_galvanized.shtml 18 gauge galvanizes weighs 2.156 pounds per square foot or 86.24 pounds per 4'x10' sheet. That would add up pretty fast but only 1207.36 pounds for 14 sheets. It was a Ford, so....
Kevin
I haul with a handful of Fords exclusively. I am guessing he didn't have "HD" F250. I don't know the differences exactly, but we bought a base model 06 F250 in 2008. It won't haul nearly what any of our diesel F250s will do. Someone actually screwed up all 4 breaks hauling our gooseneck with it in a single 50 mile round trip.
Regarding the material. I brake skids all the time to sell single sheets. I could see not doing it with galvanized though as that crap is cheap as hell.
If it was stainless I'd have a home for all that material, galvanized wouldn't be worth my trouble.
Lol! Brilliant! A submarine. I like the way you think.
So I talked it over with one of the other guys that was loading and unloading and he wasn't sure but thought it might be 16 gauge. IDK gauges and the like. I am no tin knocker, I am a sparky. I suppose I could figure it out if I really need to. However, I have no serious plans besides a powder coating oven thus far. Maybe a roof for next winters Pallet Shack?
Free. Push come to shove I will scrap it. IDK what steel prices are these days though. Someone said $240 a ton. That would be a terrible waste though.
Lol! Brilliant! A submarine. I like the way you think.
So I talked it over with one of the other guys that was loading and unloading and he wasn't sure but thought it might be 16 gauge. IDK gauges and the like. I am no tin knocker, I am a sparky. I suppose I could figure it out if I really need to. However, I have no serious plans besides a powder coating oven thus far. Maybe a roof for next winters Pallet Shack?
Free. Push come to shove I will scrap it. IDK what steel prices are these days though. Someone said $240 a ton. That would be a terrible waste though.
push comes to shove I will buy it from you before you do that, even give you a few bucks more than scrap prices. I believe 16 gauge is car body thickness, if that helps you. but please do not just sell it for scrap no matter what. 12 gauge I know is 1/4" thick for rod and many other things you might be more familiar with, and from the sounds of how it weighed down the truck you loaded it probably is 16 or better. is it flat or ribbed?
Steve
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Each sheet is white on one side and IDK, maybe brown, on the other side. With a protective film on the brown side. I think they were using it to make soffit pieces.
I need a metal brake. Or a friend with a metal brake!
push comes to shove I will buy it from you before you do that, even give you a few bucks more than scrap prices. I believe 16 gauge is car body thickness, if that helps you. but please do not just sell it for scrap no matter what. 12 gauge I know is 1/4" thick for rod and many other things you might be more familiar with, and from the sounds of how it weighed down the truck you loaded it probably is 16 or better. is it flat or ribbed?
Steve
Lemme see if I can get a better pic showing an edge. Maybe with a mm ruler in the pic if I can find it.
EDIT to add pic. I will be damned if I can take a good pic right now. It's tough to see but it's around 1mm thick. There must be a conversion, somewhere. I suppose it's, Go, go google search time for me!
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I made a 2' brake a while back and even posted some directions I found online.
looks more like you need a mike than a ruler. I can never tell unless its a lot thicker than that picture you posted. looks weld able though to me though, set low, auto body sheet metal maybe.
Steve
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I made a 2' brake a while back and even posted some directions I found online.
looks more like you need a mike than a ruler. I can never tell unless its a lot thicker than that picture you posted. looks weld able though to me though, set low, auto body sheet metal maybe.
Steve
I been checking out some Youtube vids and all you need basically is some angle iron and galvanized pipe, ground rod, C clamps, and welder. You stick a piece of ground rod inside the galvy pipe and cut into three pieces. This makes a basic hinge. Weld the two outside pieces to one side and the inside piece to the other. Hinge. Then some angle iron and a handle for leverage. Use the C clamps to prevent the sheet from walking. Pretty simple in theory. I need a 4 foot break... For now...
I am very interested in the break you made Steve. Or the directions or any tips, tricks, etc you may have. I would like an oven large enough to PC rims for starters.
Edit... Ooops I mean you stick the ground rod into the galvy pipe after you cut it into three sections. This will make a basic hinge... Sorry.
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I think I got the plans for my small brake here, I really can't remember but the miller site has some great ideas and my saw horses were from there. the idea anyway, I made them with 2 different sets of center bars so I can make them 4' wide or 6 1/2' wide by just changing that in less than a min.
I think that's were the idea for them came from anyway.
Edit to add,
every couple of months I take a look at what is new on the miller site for projects for myself or the farm, if I see something I can usually make the plans for it. Then I just find or buy the steel to make them, I have to make a special pair of saw horses the same height as the top of the gunwales on the Dodge pickup this summer so we can just roll the cap off the bed and onto them.
Steve
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I believe that is the one I made, just clamp it to any good Solid table and your good to go. Ayup that's mine. its in the shop right now I will take a picture of it and Send it to you in a PM, I can't get pip to work yet, technology is not my friend.
And here is a 4' foot brake someone made on there, I know I have seen the plans for that one on the net someplace.
It's awesome when you can find great deals like that! I found a 12' x 14" x 3/8" piece of 7075 aluminum on eBay for $75 (Cdn). It was 4 hours away, but I figured it was worth the drive. When I contacted the seller (it was a metal fabrication shop), he offered a second piece...both for $120 total!!! I priced it at the local metal place, and it was worth over $1300 (Cdn). Took a day off work and drove to get it. They even cut it into 4' pieces for me (at my request). Still have about half of it left, awesome for projects.
Hard to tell exactly from the pic but I'm gonna guess it's 16 gauge, I wouldn't say any thicker though.
On a side note, sounds like your plans are up in the air on what to do with it. If you even think about touching a welder to it, make sure you have a proper respirator and ventilation. Welding galv without this can and WILL kill you. Seriously, it's nasty.
Hard to tell exactly from the pic but I'm gonna guess it's 16 gauge, I wouldn't say any thicker though.
On a side note, sounds like your plans are up in the air on what to do with it. If you even think about touching a welder to it, make sure you have a proper respirator and ventilation. Welding galv without this can and WILL kill you. Seriously, it's nasty.
Ayup I second the respirator, although I think he did say he is a welder so he must know all about that, I know even when I was welding we were wearing respirators and air packs in some cases. depended on the place we were doing it. As well as grind, grind, grind all that galvanization off.
Steve
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I had to tack a few weld nuts on some galv once with a tig without a respirator. I did maybe 2 or 3 welds and said no more until I got a respirator. Being the only guy there that could weld, I got my respirator.
Sounds like you could build a steel house from what they threw away. Make yourself a nice pole barn type workshop/garage. If you dont want to mess with it, haul all the metal off to scrap and take the money. I worked years ago for a car dealer who had his own semi haulers. He did all their own work on them. One time cleaning up I noticed they threw a bunch of bad semi radiators by the dumpster. I took them and was amazed at what they were worth as scrap.
Make that 30 sheets on hand here at the house. We hauled about 15 more sheets home today. My neighbor is going to get the rest tomorrow. The GC says get it out or it's in the dumpster. So I had him stick it in a corner and my neighbor can grab it tomorrow. I made a deal w/ the neighbor, he gets me a loaner metal brake and he can have those other sheets. About 20 of them. Even brake time would work.
Did you look at the oven I posted the link to on the miller site? I think that just might work for you.
Steve
That is BA! Regretfully, that is WAY beyond my scope of knowledge. I am leaning more towards a simple 4x4 box. Double walled w/ insulation between. Take all the wiring and controls from an electric range and swap them over. Maybe go 6x6? IDK if too much larger will work with one stoves elements. I have much to think about and learn. Should be fun though!
That is BA! Regretfully, that is WAY beyond my scope of knowledge. I am leaning more towards a simple 4x4 box. Double walled w/ insulation between. Take all the wiring and controls from an electric range and swap them over. Maybe go 6x6? IDK if too much larger will work with one stoves elements. I have much to think about and learn. Should be fun though!
With the right brake and elements I am sure you could do that one or one very similar and look as good, with your idea of the size would work with that type of setup, he just used 2 elements from a regular stove with separate controllers and some sort of convection system, fan. Never say you can't do something, do it and prove people and even yourself wrong.
You have more than enough material, sheet metal. if you can borrow the right size brake, if you don't have your own welding equipment that will weld something that thin I do and would be glad to help you with something like that.
No mater what you got the beginnings of one hell of a stove for what you want to make, good luck.
With the right brake and elements I am sure you could do that one or one very similar and look as good, with your idea of the size would work with that type of setup, he just used 2 elements from a regular stove with separate controllers and some sort of convection system, fan. Never say you can't do something, do it and prove people and even yourself wrong.
You have more than enough material, sheet metal. if you can borrow the right size brake, if you don't have your own welding equipment that will weld something that thin I do and would be glad to help you with something like that.
No mater what you got the beginnings of one hell of a stove for what you want to make, good luck.
Steve
Awesome! I am still debating rivets or welded. Rivets I can drill out if needed to break down or add to.
The neighbor went and picked up the remaining 25 or so sheets this afternoon. He is very happy to say the least. And he has found us definite shop time with an 8ft brake and welders and all. That was the deal. Uncle of his has a shop that we can use on any Saturday. Now we just need some measurements. Double walled with 3 in gap between, all 6 sides. Fill gap with insulation. Oven.
Originally posted by weloveour86se: Awesome! I am still debating rivets or welded. Rivets I can drill out if needed to break down or add to.
The neighbor went and picked up the remaining 25 or so sheets this afternoon. He is very happy to say the least. And he has found us definite shop time with an 8ft brake and welders and all. That was the deal. Uncle of his has a shop that we can use on any Saturday. Now we just need some measurements. Double walled with 3 in gap between, all 6 sides. Fill gap with insulation. Oven.
IDK WTH I am going to do with all this metal!
Sell it, take it in for scrap, give it away. Remember we have more snow headed this way tomorrow and Wednesday. From what the idiot weatherman says tonight anyway. hell from the looks of that stuff you shouldn't have any trouble selling it as roofing on Craig's list. Not that a few inches of snow is going to hurt it, but a ft or more might if it isn't on a flat surface under it. That will affect the selling price unless you sell it for scrap. Please don't do that if you can help it, like I said before it looks to be auto sheet metal thickness and that you might be able to do, sell it to a body shop as well if it is still in good shape when you finally go to get rid of it.
Steve
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Well very similar. IDK if it is galvanized, now that I have looked around a bit I think this stuff is cold rolled steel.
And here is a first attempt CL ad that I threw together real quick. Hey, you never know right? I know, I should probably post better pics of the stuff. I suppose I could gussy it up some but wth. http://maine.craigslist.org/bar/4387429402.html
Call a local sheet metal dealer for what they sell them for pricewise. I find those online steel dealers prices can be high and low, then you have to add shipping. but what the hell, you got them for free - gas costs to get them to your place so anything over that is going to be pure profit.
Call a local sheet metal dealer for what they sell them for pricewise. I find those online steel dealers prices can be high and low, then you have to add shipping. but what the hell, you got them for free - gas costs to get them to your place so anything over that is going to be pure profit.
Good luck
Steve
I know right? I gave my buddy $50 to make two trips from the job site to house. So it's a win/win thus far. Anything I can get out of these is all gravy! And they were going to just throw them all in the roll off dumpster. They also are throwing out ALOT of other stuff. Like 4ft by 8ft sheets of tempered glass, rolled roofing, commercial grade doors. The glass was going to be shower/tub doors but some brilliant engineer screwed the pooch and forgot to take into account the 5/8th for the sheetrock ceiling! LMAO, so they are tossing $400 sheets of tempered glass in the roll off! SMASH!!
Edit to add I got a text from someone in Mass, about the metal. Person just asked, "what part of Maine are you in, I am interested in the metal." Prolly a tire kicker though.
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I know right? I gave my buddy $50 to make two trips from the job site to house. So it's a win/win thus far. Anything I can get out of these is all gravy! And they were going to just throw them all in the roll off dumpster. They also are throwing out ALOT of other stuff. Like 4ft by 8ft sheets of tempered glass, rolled roofing, commercial grade doors. The glass was going to be shower/tub doors but some brilliant engineer screwed the pooch and forgot to take into account the 5/8th for the sheetrock ceiling! LMAO, so they are tossing $400 sheets of tempered glass in the roll off! SMASH!!
ayup I loved working on big construction remodels, the crap they throw away is just mind boggling, even when Wal Mart does a remodel what they through away in those big dumpsters makes me cry. warehouse racking, doors, drive in freezers and the like. I love it when they tell us take what you want, its just going into the dumpster.
Steve
edit to add change you add to ask for phone numbers and then you can just call them and weed out the tire kickers quick that way.
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Have you figured out how much you need to make your oven yet? I think you should before you sell off to much anyway. remember you will need an inside and outside walls on that so it may take a few sheets there can be a lot of waste when you make things of a certain size with materials of a set size. if I were you I would set 4 or 5 aside just for yourself and sell the rest, set it all inside on a flat concrete floor if at all possible, with a sheet of plywood or card board under it to prevent it from getting all scratched up.
I need around 4 sheets to make my oven I think. The first pic is something to behold. Kinda cool, kinda not. The second pic is a 110cc pocket bike, 2011. The pocket bike is more our style I think. I just don't know WTH I would do with the airplane tower/plow besides move snow around or sell it. Who I could sell it to IDK.
I need around 4 sheets to make my oven I think. The first pic is something to behold. Kinda cool, kinda not. ...........Who I could sell it to IDK.
Depending on the asking price, I might know someone interested in this. Price plus transporting costs will probably rule it out but, you never know unless you ask. You're a long way from Kentucky and diesel fuel is going up like crazy. But, you never know.
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IDK, If I would have a use for this. IDK if I could move it either. Literally. The guy with the pocket bike turned out to be a tire kicker. Says, "My wife says I can't". Lol.
I had another email, someone asking if they could use it to make floor board patches on a Jeep. Told them I don't see why not. Maybe sell that person a sheet? IDK. No hurries here.
Current trade offer. Good one. If it's legit I will probably take it up.
Copy and paste of the email. Minus the contact info which is a cell number...
Hi I have a benelli 12ga shotgun super black eagle will shoot anything from 2 3/4 low base to 3 1/2" magnum in any order. also have tube extender so it will hold 5 3.5" shells fiber optic turkey sights. pattern master choke tube for buck shot shoot coyotes out to 100 yds deer out to 70 yds plus 4 other choke tubes
End of copy and paste....
So that's it. I do know a Benelli is a BA firearm. And I like things that go bang! It would be easier for me to move a BA shotty then it would to move a ton of sheet metal. I am seriously entertaining this offer. I just hope it's not another tire kicker. They left a cell number so how bad could it be? Guess we shall see...
Well the person with the Benelli shot gun backed out after I told him I needed to keep some of the sheets. I gotta rewrite my CL ad to reflect this fact.
Another guy offered a 95 Toyota Camry and a 93 Yamaha venture 500 snowmobile, both. Haven't heard back after my reply to his email. Prolly another tire kicker.
I got a few emails asking for 1 sheet each for body panels. I would rather move the sheets as a lot though. IDK...
I really need to get to work on that PC oven. I just scored again big time! About 25lbs each of sky white and gloss grey I picked up for $20 total. That's around $900 worth of media! Score!
Anyone need some PC media?
Quick math quiz?... How many square feet is 25 4ftX10ft sheets?
Figures the guy with the shotgun backed out, how many did you say you had in the add? I can't remember. minus what you think you will need for the oven then add one more sheet, just in case. then place the add again with whatever the total sheets are that you would have left when and if you finish the oven. That way if you get a deal someone wants to trade you something for you have wiggle room, and put that in the add, fair is fair trades for certain numbers of the sheets. if they want all of what you offer fine, as long as you like the deal. hey you can always be the one to back out.
Benelli's are nice guns, Melanie's dad had one we got after he died, beautiful peace of craftsmanship and no cheap Saturday night special by a long shot. to bad, we sold that one, but we did keep his semi auto 12 gauge for sentimental reasons, it was the first gun Melanie ever shot, nice scroll work on the receiver as well. Gave her one hell of a bruised shoulder and her dad caught hell from her mom for that. She was just a kid, I forget how old she said she was, but said it almost knocked he down, it has a fiberglass barrel with a steel liner, nice and light.
Redo the add and repost it, you never know you might get lucky again.
actually the thicker the better. 
