In the '50's the Dodge was a 'step up' from the Chrysler economy car, Plymouth. It was Chrysler's answer to GMs Oldsmobile/ Pontiac cars. Remember Mercury? Mercury has been described as the car Ford would have built if the accountants all quit their jobs.
Chevrolet makes sturdy, low priced cars:
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Buick Encore, "assembled" in Korea. Any more you cannot determine where cars are built/assembled as it is a world wide industry. Chinese parts, Taiwan made parts, Hungarian made parts etc.
In the tune of many, many billions of dollars. The US government subsidized or even owned: GM Chrysler x 2
Not to say how much the government gave them during war production.
Yes, 'DID' to Chryslers loans...which they paid back, completely, much quicker than they had to. GM got 'forgiven' their payback, so they didnt pay back anything.
All the manufacturers got government money during wartime because they were producing war equipment...like planes, tanks, trucks, jeeps, boats....
Buick Encore, "assembled" in Korea. Any more you cannot determine where cars are built/assembled as it is a world wide industry. Chinese parts, Taiwan made parts, Hungarian made parts etc.
What currency is the CEO paid in? Dollars? Yen? Won? That's a pretty weak attempt at deflection, I think. What currency is your income paid in?
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People buy Korean cars because they're cheap, and idiots. The same people will buy Chinese cars when they finally come over here, because it's just a matter of time. Maybe when those get here and fatalities increase dramatically, and breakdowns go back to 1970's levels, people will start to THINK about what they buy? There's no reason not to buy American, German, or Japanese.
I bought a Japanese car because American car companies don't offer anything remotely close to it, and I can't afford a Tesla, a used Roadster or a Model S. I'll buy the best car from whoever makes it. All things being equal, I would prefer an American car, but whoever makes the best product will get my business. Really hoping the Tesla Model E is out by the time I pay off this car.
You know the Japanese and the Koreans hate each other, right?
not true, the Chinese and Japanese hate eachother. Japs hate everyone, but they accept Koreans much more than accepting any Chinese in their land. Also Kia or Hyundai use Mitsubishi motors for their cars. pretty sure its Hyundai.
in communist Venehella i saw many crap Chinese cars , the are called "CHERY" instead of chevy, i was like wtf, the cars are even named in ENGLISH! wtf,this is a Chery Grand Tiger !!!!
There's a Mitsubishi transmission in my Fiero. (stock)
I'll bet the Koreans purchase heavily government subsidized Boeing aircraft from the U.S. too. A Greyhound employee I knew in Phoenix was selling their used buses to a Korean company. Hyundai builds cars in Alabama. At least it's more of a balanced two-way trade with Korea than with China or Japan.
not true, the Chinese and Japanese hate eachother. Japs hate everyone, but they accept Koreans much more than accepting any Chinese in their land. Also Kia or Hyundai use Mitsubishi motors for their cars. pretty sure its Hyundai.
in communist Venehella i saw many crap Chinese cars , the are called "CHERY" instead of chevy, i was like wtf, the cars are even named in ENGLISH! wtf,this is a Chery Grand Tiger !!!!
In 1929, way before I was born, The (American) Ford Motor corp. was building the first all metal passenger airplanes. The Kia/Hyundai companies were trying to make a kite that would fly.
(Thanks, Spark. I washed a lot of cars for an Oldsmobile dealer when I was a kid)
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The Corvette is as good as any sports car ever made and EBR makes a motorcycle second to none. If you have ever driven a Mack or a Peterbilt, you know that nobody can build a truck like an American. Sam Adams Double Bock and Imperial Stout are first class brews, and if you have ever been lucky enough to taste Sam's Triple Bock, you know what they will serve in heaven. I am proud to own an American pickup, three American cars and three American motorcycles.
Back at ya, dood. In my driveway you'll see a Buick, a Dodge and a Chrysler. There are a couple of Pontiac Fieros around here somewhere, too. When my (wonderful, fabulous) daughter in law comes over, she parks her Korean car on the street. I never asked her to, but I guess she just gets it.
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The Corvette is as good as any sports car ever made and EBR makes a motorcycle second to none. If you have ever driven a Mack or a Peterbilt, you know that nobody can build a truck like an American.
Finally the Corvette is as good as any sports car ever made. It's only taken them 59 60 years to get it right. I don't like sports bikes. What about a dual purpose? How different are the big bikes, really, and what other option do they offer, besides Sportys? The big semis over here work because we have space and long distances to travel. Long nose trucks are more comfortable than cab overs.
Back at ya, dood. In my driveway you'll see a Buick, a Dodge and a Chrysler. There are a couple of Pontiac Fieros around here somewhere, too. When my (wonderful, fabulous) daughter in law comes over, she parks her Korean car on the street. I never asked her to, but I guess she just gets it.
We don't agree on a few things, (well actually a lot of things), but this I'm there with you. Got a Fiero, Silverado, Trail Blazer in the driveway, 66 Mustang and Harley in the garage.
I've told my 5 daughters while they're living under my roof, if they bring one of those imported pieces of crap home they can park it somewhere else. (Yes that includes foreign cars built in America or American cars built overseas.)
Toyota and Honda have plants in the US. Just 40 miles from me is a huge Honda plant thats been there like 30 years. They make Acuras, Accords and motorcycles I think...and the new sports car this summer. I still call them Japanese because the money goes mostly back to Japan. Wherever US cars get their parts from, if the money stays here, its a US car. Chrysler is on shakey ground there now that they are owned by Fiat. I still cant call a Chrysler a European import though. I dont have anything to back it up, but even if Fiat owns it, I think most of the money stays in the US and most of them are made here.
Toyota and Honda have plants in the US. Just 40 miles from me is a huge Honda plant thats been there like 30 years. They make Acuras, Accords and motorcycles I think...and the new sports car this summer. I still call them Japanese because the money goes mostly back to Japan. Wherever US cars get their parts from, if the money stays here, its a US car. Chrysler is on shakey ground there now that they are owned by Fiat. I still cant call a Chrysler a European import though. I dont have anything to back it up, but even if Fiat owns it, I think most of the money stays in the US and most of them are made here.
I wouldn't say Chrysler is on shaky ground anymore, GM is on more shaky ground then Chrysler. The new Dodge Dart is based off an Alfa Romeo Giulietta, so they have already started bringing in some of the European cars into the Dodge name. Fiat is a good car company and I believe they are going to do great things with Chrysler. Most People don't know that Fiat also owns Ferrari, Maserati, Alfa Romeo, Lancia, and now Chrysler. So I would say they have the funds and people to pull off quality cars and trucks.
There's a Mitsubishi transmission in my Fiero. (stock)
There is one in my 85 ranger too. This has been going on a very long time.
Seriously, I really don't give a crap anymore. My PT Cruiser is Mexican, which is far better quality than the Canadian one. One buddy of mine just bought and SLK the parts are something like 80% transferable to the Chrysler Crossfire my other friend bought.
Yep, buy American and be the only one that cares.
All of our cars here in my driveway are "American" too heh
Buick Encore, "assembled" in Korea. Any more you cannot determine where cars are built/assembled as it is a world wide industry. Chinese parts, Taiwan made parts, Hungarian made parts etc.
I agree. And there's more:
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The Opel Mokka is a subcompact SUV from the German manufacturer Opel, which was unveiled at the 2012 Geneva Motor Show and went on sale at the end of the same year. It was engineered by Opel in Rüsselsheim, Germany, and is produced in Bupyeong, South Korea. It is also marketed as the Vauxhall Mokka in the United Kingdom, and as the Buick Encore in North America and China.
I still cant call a Chrysler a European import though. I dont have anything to back it up, but even if Fiat owns it, I think most of the money stays in the US and most of them are made here.
You will soon be able to call a Jeep a European import:
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The Jeep Renegade is a subcompact crossover SUV (mini SUV in Europe) from the Jeep division of Chrysler. It will be built in Melfi, Italy alongside the related Fiat 500X with which it shares its platform. It was first shown to the public in March, 2014 at the Geneva Motor Show.
This will be the first Jeep product to be produced exclusively outside of the United States and North America, being produced in Melfi, Italy. The SUV will sell in both European and North American markets.
Originally posted by NEPTUNE: I think there's something wrong with this picture, but I just can't quite put my finger on it:
Well ... you are from FloriDUH. Oh look. So is the car driver.
Eh, just raggin' on you Neptune. I love you buddy. You can buy me a beer anytime. Now is good, . Just kidding. I am setting you up for a biatch slappin' in another thread, .
Back at ya, dood. In my driveway you'll see a Buick, a Dodge and a Chrysler. There are a couple of Pontiac Fieros around here somewhere, too. When my (wonderful, fabulous) daughter in law comes over, she parks her Korean car on the street. I never asked her to, but I guess she just gets it.
My mother came to visit one time when I was helping a friend build a car port in town, wife called and said she was here and I came home. She was driving a Hyundai, I walked in the house and asked what that peace of crap import was doing in my driveway. she said my kid brother bought it and she had cosigned for the loan and he couldn't pay for it so she took it and drove it, figuring if she had to pay the payments she may as well be driving it. it broke down more than it ran.
Steve
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