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my 97 4.3 s10 ripped a mid 2000s Monte Carlo by DanDamage
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its my buddies Monte 3800, my 97 has 140k , similar to his milage, we started at 35 miles, and when i heard him step on it, i stepped on it, we got up to 70 before i was finally able to overtake him cleanly .

Love my s10. i think i have a rare one, im the second owner, my dad engineer babied it since 0 miles. Mines is the most basic model with the 4.3 automatic

heres what mine looks like minus the pinstripe




i love my 4.3 , every other body like mine i see is the isuzu 4banger stick shift

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I occasionally see them here, with the 4.3 and 5 speed. It's fairly common in the regular cabs. Not so much in the extended cab (which is what I was looking for.)
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right^ i've never seen my body style with 4.3 auto though/ Seen so many jimmys and blazers with the 4.3 5 speed.
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Looks like my truck, except mine has the 2.2 liters of fire breathing fury. The ride is nice and comfortable, gas mileage is decent and it has been dependable, so I can't complain too much about the lack of performance.
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my buddies speedometer must be wrong, he said we were doing 120, theres no way my governer cuts off at 100 and the speedtrap signs always have me at the correct speed according to my speedometer.

i got 140k and his milage is about the same he just told me

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the monte running a 3.4?
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Mid 2000 Monte/Classic is a 2.2. Not meant to be a barn burner, you have to take the other guy by surprise.
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I outgrew doing that stuff when i was 16...
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monte has a 3800
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I outgrew doing that stuff when i was 16...


Well, fun must have ended then too. This small statement tells volumes.

Try to enjoy life.
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The Monte Carlo must have been a dog. The 4.3L boat anchor is anything but performance oriented. (I've had 2 S 10 based SUVs with the 4.3/auto so I know what I'm talking about.) If it wasn't so damn reliable, I'd have thrown it out long ago. I had 171k on my '96 Jimmy and currently have just over 90k on my '04 Blazer. I expect to get 150k out of the Blazer if I don't trade up for a full sized pick up/SUV first.
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Well, fun must have ended then too. This small statement tells volumes.

Try to enjoy life.


No doubt!

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Hey Dan, wife's got a 2007 Impala if you want to play.

Might be fair to warn you it is an SS with a 5.3. That thing will scoot!

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Well, fun must have ended then too.
Try to enjoy life.


I agree.
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The 4.3L boat anchor is anything but performance oriented. (I've had 2 S 10 based SUVs with the 4.3/auto so I know what I'm talking about.) If it wasn't so damn reliable, I'd have thrown it out long ago. I had 171k on my '96 Jimmy and currently have just over 90k on my '04 Blazer. I expect to get 150k out of the Blazer if I don't trade up for a full sized pick up/SUV first.


I have a 96 Sonoma 4x4 ex cab with the ZR2 suspension "High Rider", I like it alot. Be more fun if it was a stick though.
I put a $30 cold air intake on it when the rubber intake neck got ripped, when the exhaust rusted away I replaced it with a single 3" from the cat back. When the computer started having issues I had a used one tuned up a little to match the in and out air. It scoots pretty good for a V6, even with 31 inch tires. I consider repairs opportunities to upgrade
The one thing I dont like is the mpgs, similar to a V8 without the HP....

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Originally posted by Monkeyman:

The Monte Carlo must have been a dog. The 4.3L boat anchor is anything but performance oriented. (I've had 2 S 10 based SUVs with the 4.3/auto so I know what I'm talking about.) If it wasn't so damn reliable, I'd have thrown it out long ago. I had 171k on my '96 Jimmy and currently have just over 90k on my '04 Blazer. I expect to get 150k out of the Blazer if I don't trade up for a full sized pick up/SUV first.


yeah i am sure my engine has been cared for much more than his since i'm the second owner and my dad a mechanic/engineer has babied it since 0 miles before I bought it off of him, so my little s10 takes off like a bat out of hell . Plus with my basic body I'm sure my truck is lighter than his "4seater" monte. Its funny his car says SS but its not supercharged.
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yeah i am sure my engine has been cared for much more than his since i'm the second owner and my dad a mechanic/engineer has babied it since 0 miles before I bought it off of him, so my little s10 takes off like a bat out of hell . Plus with my basic body I'm sure my truck is lighter than his "4seater" monte. Its funny his car says SS but its not supercharged.


That SS, if factory should be a 3800. My folks have an SS thats not supercharged.
This style? Or later?

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^yeah same exact style , solid color though
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You call THAT little thing a truck ???????

Wanna toss it in the back of mine and we can go for a highway run ?
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You call THAT little thing a truck ???????

Wanna toss it in the back of mine and we can go for a highway run ?


So yeah, you owe me a new keyboard!

Kept thinking about Dan... "Big guy in a little truck.". . *channelling Chris Farley*
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monte has a 3800


Sorry, I was thinking Malibu. Diluting of once great badges....
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monte has a 3800


His might, but not all do, they're either 3400, L36 or L67 for that generation.
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We have the factory odd ball, an AWD Blazer yes Full Time 4wd. However it has the 4.3 Vortec motor that is unique to the 96 Model. Don't ask me why, but I bought plugs for the 95 and they were wrong, checked it out on the parts interchange and 96 used plugs that were unique to the 96, different than 95 and 97. From a Dead Stop, our Blazer vs our Grand Prix GTP with a 3800SC, the Blazer will beat the GTP through the intersection and another 60ft after that, but once it hits 2nd gear the GTP has made full boost by that time and walks on by. The GTP has a Cold Air Kit and that's about it. The Blazer has Accell ignition parts, an Accell Cap/Rotor and wires, plus the one mod I was skeptical about the E3 Spark plugs. Truck gained a lot of uhmp throughout the rpm band and picked up gas mileage too. Believe it or not, even with the AWD we are getting between 28 and 32mpg on the freeway. We had to move up a grade in gas as it was detonating with the E3 plugs, but we are really happy with it. Its a full load blazer, leather seats, AC, power everything, overhead exterior temp gauges. It was our first "Family" car after being a Fiero only family since the day my wife and I got together. I quickly missed the sporty feel and we added the 2000GTP as our 2nd family car. The only thing that I don't like about the Blazer and the GTP, the Blazer has a speed governor at 100mph that shuts the truck down, and the GTP has one at about 130mph. Both are still pulling fairly well when the governors kick in.
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plus the one mod I was skeptical about the E3 Spark plugs. Truck gained a lot of uhmp throughout the rpm band and picked up gas mileage too. Believe it or not, even with the AWD we are getting between 28 and 32mpg on the freeway. We had to move up a grade in gas as it was detonating with the E3 plugs, but we are really happy with it.


That is nuts! Is it an automatic? They should only get 20 mpg on a very good day. Does it have special ratio gearing? I get 18 hwy and that is average for a 4x4, (but I run in 2wd.) E3 huh? So are you running 91 octane then, is it E10 gas?

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Hey Dan, wife's got a 2007 Impala if you want to play.

Might be fair to warn you it is an SS with a 5.3. That thing will scoot!

Kevin


My wife's Acadia wants to play too. I can probably run with that Impala. Definitely can spank that 4.3.
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my monte wants to play to.. its just an 80... well kinda mostly the body anyway
its ugly and rough looking its just a 500 dollar beater....
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That is nuts! Is it an automatic? They should only get 20 mpg on a very good day. Does it have special ratio gearing? I get 18 hwy and that is average for a 4x4, (but I run in 2wd.) E3 huh? So are you running 91 octane then, is it E10 gas?



Honestly I don't know if the gear is special or not. If anything I would guess any gearing changes are in the axle's and not the transmission. (would the all wheel drive transfer case even have the ability to have a different ratio) Highway cruise is around 1800rpms if I remember correctly. Idle is around 550rpms. E3 plugs are here, http://www.e3sparkplugs.com I had an issue with the engine that I could not fix, even after replacing the entire spider injection system, MAF sensor, and all related parts, still had a surge while driving, finally gave up and found a Blazer forum that was equal to PFF for Fiero's and found a local Blazer Expert. Took it to him and he replaced the distributor gear, its ran perfect ever since. He said our Blazer was one of the strongest 4.3's he has driven. (taking into account being fairly stock)

My wife and I were driving pretty regular from BC Canada to Aurora Oregon USA, and kept a close eye on fuel usage. The truck could make the 320mile drive on a single tank and still have more than a 1/4 tank left. Totally blew me away. We are running the stock 15" aluminum mags with 215/70/15 tires. (albeit I run them at 40psi to reduce rolling resistance)

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my monte wants to play to.. its just an 80... well kinda mostly the body anyway
its ugly and rough looking its just a 500 dollar beater....



Just needs some paint
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my monte wants to play to.. its just an 80... well kinda mostly the body anyway
its ugly and rough looking its just a 500 dollar beater....
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First thing I thought of when I saw that, was that old 80's Kenny Rogers movie with the kids that were car parts thieves. He had a "Stock Car" race car, and they were his mechanics. Totally cool looking car.
If you have never seen the movie, watch the trailer at the bottom of the page, http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0084690

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actualy that whole side is now black but the other door and quarter trunk and roof is still red lol, and with the 327 and glasspacks it kinda sounds like an old stock car. but the dizzy gear is pretty commen at the dealer ship i work at i actuly have a few on the shelf behind me somewhere. perks to being the parts guy at a gm dealer
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Highway cruise is around 1800rpms if I remember correctly.

The truck could make the 320mile drive on a single tank and still have more than a 1/4 tank left. Totally blew me away. We are running the stock 15" aluminum mags with 215/70/15 tires. (albeit I run them at 40psi to reduce rolling resistance).



That's stock gearing. My '04 (with the regular 4wd) runs about the same rpms at 65 or so.

I think stock tire size is 235/75/15 so yours are a bit small. Probably doesn't matter much. (I run mine at 40psi, too.) The Blazers have a 16 gal tank so 3/4 of a tank is 12 gallons. 320mi/12gal=26+mpg. I'd check it every tank for 5 or 6 tanks then take the average. I rarely take long trips so my average mileage is less than "normal" but I only average about 16 (most trips are less than 5 miles). I think I could probably average closer to 20 on the highway but nowhere near 26+. Glad to hear you can get that in your Blazer.

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That blazer has got to have been messed with, maybe ported and polished internals and such, special EGR maybe? I've been on S10forum.com for quite a while and never heard of anyone getting near 30 with a 4.3. You check it by the gallons put in and setting the trip before and after right?
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That blazer has got to have been messed with, maybe ported and polished internals and such, special EGR maybe? I've been on S10forum.com for quite a while and never heard of anyone getting near 30 with a 4.3. You check it by the gallons put in and setting the trip before and after right?


Yes we average from fill up to fill up when we are keeping an eye on mileage. However we only do that when we are taking longer trips, day to day driving around, she usually just puts in 20 or 40 dollars at a time. (we are in Canada where gas is nearly $6 per gallon for cheap stuff and 6.40 a gallon US$ for Premium, so fill ups can be close to $100 bucks if using higher grade gas. I also use the Instant and Average fuel calculations from the OBD2 Port. I keep a Bluetooth OBD2 Scanner plugged in all the time in the truck, so anytime I want to see what's going on, I just grab my phone and load up the software to see what's going on. (Yes I am that Anal about keeping on eye on engine data) Oh someone asked about Ethanol, if we run normal gas, 87-91 its 10% ethanol, however Chevrons here in Canada sell 94oct that is Ethanol Free. We occasionally use it, as I think the Techron is better at cleaning out the engine and we get zero detonation when running it. I am always disappointed when we are state side that we can not get the 94 ethanol free stuff down there. At one time only certain stations had ethanol gas, so we would always avoid them, but over the last year, all stations started using up to 10% in their low grade fuel. I finally gave in and tuned the Fiero for it, but I still hate it.



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my super light bare bones s10 4.3 , with a super clean engine gets 17mpg with the A/C on in city driving.

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my super light bare bones s10 4.3 , with a super clean engine gets 17mpg with the A/C on in city driving.



In city driving, we are fairly bad, and on the norm with other 4.3's at around 18-21mpg however that is with my rather lead foot. If I have to slow down for someone I don't gently accelerate back to speeding, I give it enough gas to drop a gear or 2 which results in the instant mpg dropping down to like 9mpg. Then recovering to 28mpg when I lift and settling into 22mpg with an average of around 18-22mpg.
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I drive my truck like someones grandmother and still only average about 16mpg. I want to trade my Blazer off on a full size truck/SUV but if I could get an honest 20+mpg around town and close to 30 on the highway, I'd seriously consider keeping it forever.

You can add the OE trip computer easily only adding a single wire to the OBD2 plug. It's surpisingly accurate, too.
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I had a zr2 blazer that was a stick that was absolutely killer...I had 3 other 4.3s that were tanks and slow. Seems every now and again they came together right. That lil truck was fast even with swampers on it...it would bark 3 gears without much trouble and not revvin it hard.

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I drive my truck like someones grandmother and still only average about 16mpg. I want to trade my Blazer off on a full size truck/SUV but if I could get an honest 20+mpg around town and close to 30 on the highway, I'd seriously consider keeping it forever.

You can add the OE trip computer easily only adding a single wire to the OBD2 plug. It's surpisingly accurate, too.


Maybe that is your problem, if you are lugging the motor around town, you will burn more gas than keeping the revs up a bit where the motor is more efficient. The trip computer you are talking about, got any more details, what do I swipe it out of, would it be the same as the trip computer in our 2000 GTP 3.8SC car? Hmm wonder if I could steal the HUD from a GTP and put it into the Blazer. I love the HUD in the GTP.
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His might, but not all do, they're either 3400, L36 or L67 for that generation.


My Monte Carlo was a 3400. Complete dog. I hated that car anyway. Only bought it because I needed a car and it was a GREAT deal.
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Maybe that is your problem, if you are lugging the motor around town, you will burn more gas than keeping the revs up a bit where the motor is more efficient. The trip computer you are talking about, got any more details, what do I swipe it out of, would it be the same as the trip computer in our 2000 GTP 3.8SC car?


Could be an issue on the revs. I bought the truck with almost 70k miles on it and didn't want to stress the motor. I've just gotten in the habit of babying it now.

The only trip computer that would work is the one that came in some stock S based Blazers/Jimmys/Bravadas, etc. It fits in the same spot (in the overhead console) that the temp/compass does. It looks the same and uses the same cover (with the 2 buttons). IIRC, the 2 buttons on the temp/compass module are on/off and met/us (or something close to that). The cover on the trip computer does away with the on/off button and substitutes "mode" (I think...I'll have to look later when I go out to the truck). Either cover will work as the buttons are in the same place but just something to look for. I believe the wiring was the same with the addition of that extra wire you have to run down to the OBD2 port (by the e-brake pedal). I got mine at a boneyard a few years ago for 10 bucks or so. (I had to pull it out of the truck.) I found the destructions on one of the S truck forums originally. Turns out I don't use many of the other features other than the temp but it's interesting to see how many gallons I have til empty or what my avg/instant gas mileage is. (Note: While I never use the compass, it's good to know when it needs to be recalibrated (won't show E/W/S/N), all you have to do is drive around in a couple tight circles.)

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