Im white and never considered myself any way a racist......till the last 5-10 years. The reasons being because of the blacks own actions in recent years. They create white racists all by themselves. Whites dont have to do a thing.
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It is true the generalizations are very hard to cure. My wife was bit by a dog as a young adult and is now afraid of all dogs. Please apply this to people and you could see where one white person said "I will never hire a black" equals white people are keeping the black race from getting a job and have no choice but to be on welfare.
If it hurts you, you are much more likely to generalize and therefore practice prejudice to protect yourself.
I know many friends that actually think this. I have tried explaining that I have no racism, and they have collectively told me that I don't even know I'm racist because I'm White, and therefore can't see the White privilege I'm given every day and since I can't see it, I will always be slightly racist.
And I continue on my terrible generalization. When an over taxed middle income white hears that same black person say that they have no choice but to be on welfare, he becomes a raciest unless he is from a very intermingled group and knows better.
The more we divide ourselves, the easier it is to use the broader brush and say they are all the same. My wife, and my friends Mom have black friends but, none that are exclusively my friends but, they are shared with me.
Im white and never considered myself any way a racist......till the last 5-10 years. The reasons being because of the blacks own actions in recent years. They create white racists all by themselves. Whites dont have to do a thing.
The meaning of the word Racist has been so misused and obscured that most people using the word really don't even know the definition. Disliking someone of any minority racial group because they don't fit the normal mold of society will get you an instant name tag of Racist. Just look at the racist accusations thrown at anyone who opposes ObamaCare. Take a minority to task for being dishonest or lazy and you're a Racist. What this woman was teaching had racial hatred embedded all through it, but if she gets called on it or the newspaper files a complaint under the open meetings act, I'm sure someone will come up with that all encompassing race card.
Racism isn't disliking someone because they are of a different race or because of their actions. Racist is:
1. a person who believes that a particular race is superior to another. synonyms: racial bigot, racialist, xenophobe, chauvinist, supremacist More "he was exposed as a racist" (racially) discriminatory, racialist, prejudiced, bigoted "a racist society"
There really isn't a smiley, nor any words to describe my complete confusion at what this course is. Seriously. What the ****!?
That's what I replied to the guy who sent me the link. What the heck is that? I am aware of feminine and black studies though... it just sounds strange...
Thanks GM for perpetuating the stereotype (must have been the CEO's decision, who is a woman by the way). Lousy smug arrogant white guys who have everything .....
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Nope. Never happen. Its animal instinct to tend to group with 'creatures' like yourself and exclude ones that are not. Humans can mentally adjust but its still instinct for self preservation.
It must be white males they are referring to, because white women loves them some black men.
Aint that the TRUTH. But then again, they also love guys who are always in trouble. I know some very hot girls that have live in boy friends that have no job, no car, no income (except maybe drug money), and religously cheat on them. A couple have even caught them in the act and kept them. In the meantime, nice, good guys have been chasing them for years.
Originally posted by PaulJK: Thanks GM for perpetuating the stereotype (must have been the CEO's decision, who is a woman by the way). Lousy smug arrogant white guys who have everything .....
Don't worry, they use blacks in their Escalade ads.
Nope, sorry, Boondawg. You frequently post thought provoking commentary but this flat out wrong.
Yes, a road brush and lumping all humans together for a blanket statement and a perception of an entire group, sounds like something we have been talking about.
Some may never be "cured", some cannot be "cured", some do not need any "curing" because there is nothing wrong, some do not want to be "cured". Reminds me of a thread here years ago about judging a book by it's cover. Just because one should not paint with a universal negative does not mean that people should not be wary of certain types.
Originally posted by Pyrthian: our brains work thru pattern recognition & pigeon holing everything. there is no getting around that. add to that self image & ego.
I am the best. so, the more like me, the better. color is a quick on the surface pattern quickly pigeon holed. not like mine? must not be as good.
pretty damn simple. yes, how one is raised can affect the impact and at what level this takes place, but, in the end - its how the brain works.
All of these things are broad brushes. I dont think personal preference means racism though. Also technically it will have to be about "race" specifically to be racism. If I go back to norway (about 50 percent of my ethnic background) and dont like it there or think the people I met were mean, would I be racist against myself? Maybe I would be racist against Norweigians and myself if I believed and lived as though everyone with Norweigian in them was defined by what I did not like about Norway. I would have to believe what I didnt like about Norway was caused by something genetic in people who are Norweigian, that they are all that way, and cannot not be that way. Including myself.
1. a person who believes that a particular race is superior to another. synonyms: racial bigot, racialist, xenophobe, chauvinist, supremacist More "he was exposed as a racist" (racially) discriminatory, racialist, prejudiced, bigoted "a racist society"
1. having or showing the belief that a particular race is superior to another. "we are investigating complaints about racist abuse at the club"
Originally posted by 2.5: All of these things are broad brushes. I dont think personal preference means racism though. Also technically it will have to be about "race" specifically to be racism. If I go back to norway (about 50 percent of my ethnic background) and dont like it there or think the people I met were mean, would I be racist against myself? Maybe I would be racist against Norweigians and myself if I believed and lived as though everyone with Norweigian in them was defined by what I did not like about Norway. I would have to believe what I didnt like about Norway was caused by something genetic in people who are Norweigian, that they are all that way, and cannot not be that way. Including myself.
1. a person who believes that a particular race is superior to another. synonyms: racial bigot, racialist, xenophobe, chauvinist, supremacist More "he was exposed as a racist" (racially) discriminatory, racialist, prejudiced, bigoted "a racist society"
1. having or showing the belief that a particular race is superior to another. "we are investigating complaints about racist abuse at the club"
yes, what I described is bigger than racism. racism is a subset of the ego/self image. which is why it is never going away. I do not know what it would be called in your case. I know my wifey is "racist" again the Polish. for your exact reasons - every Polish person that was in her life at a young age was mean. The Negros get a big kick out her "racist Polish rants". Tho, I agree, calling that "racism" probably is inaccurate. Feel free to find the right word.
knowing is half the battle. alcoholics. they are still alcholics when they are not drinking, right? call it recovering, I thinks it is? learning how not to act upon the mental deficiency. recognizing it. accepting the reality of it.
yes, what I described is bigger than racism. racism is a subset of the ego/self image. which is why it is never going away. I do not know what it would be called in your case. I know my wifey is "racist" again the Polish. for your exact reasons - every Polish person that was in her life at a young age was mean. The Negros get a big kick out her "racist Polish rants". Tho, I agree, calling that "racism" probably is inaccurate. Feel free to find the right word.
knowing is half the battle. alcoholics. they are still alcholics when they are not drinking, right? call it recovering, I thinks it is? learning how not to act upon the mental deficiency. recognizing it. accepting the reality of it.
there is no cure. only learning to live with it..
Just to clarify my post was a what if example, not a real happening. It was to show that racism isnt as common as most people think.
But I would say preferences arent bad or racist. Unless they are applied in the way I laid out..
If she applies her dislike to polish folks she doesnt even know then racism probly fits.
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And racism is distinctly different than racist in my opinion, but as in my first example, so many other things are being tagged as racist. Note the word Chauvinist is synonymous with racist.
rac·ism ˈrāˌsizəm/ noun noun: racism
1. the belief that all members of each race possess characteristics or abilities specific to that race, esp. so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior to another race or races. prejudice, discrim
Racism and prejudice are two different things. We all "pre-judge" things based on initial superficial information, or before information is even available. If we're intelligent we refine that judgement as more information becomes available. Racism is the belief that one ethnic group is inherently better or worse than another on whatever criteria you establish. It's a final judgement, not an initial one.
A child who's never tried broccoli saying they don't like it is an example of prejudice. An adult saying blacks are less intelligent than whites is an example of racism.
You'll note that in the racism example, the person saying blacks are less intelligent may or may not have ill will towards blacks. They may just believe it's a true fact, like the Sun rising in the East. The attitude isn't necessarily motivated by hatred, although it frequently is.
The language has been hijacked for political ends and the words no longer carry the social connotations that they originally did. Another good example is the word "sober." With the influence of groups like Alcoholics Anonymous, et al, using it to mean one who abstains from alcohol or drugs, it no longer is used in it's traditional definition - that you were not intoxicated at that time. A person who has 1 drink a week is not "sober" according to common modern usage, yet they would never become intoxicated. It's all about controlling the language to control attitudes.
Thanks GM for perpetuating the stereotype (must have been the CEO's decision, who is a woman by the way). Lousy smug arrogant white guys who have everything .....
How about the fact that blacks only make up 12% of the total population of the United States... and that's why.
Do you think that it's non-racist when they force-put minorities in every commercial? If you go to Japan, would you expect all the commercials there to have white people?
There really isn't a smiley, nor any words to describe my complete confusion at what this course is. Seriously. What the ****!?
