Shooting incident at Fort Hood UPDATE: Fort Hood's Directorate of Emergency Services has an initial report that a shooter is dead but this is unconfirmed. The injured personnel are being transported to Carl R. Darnall Medical Center and other local hospitals. Numerous law enforcement agencies are in support and on the scene. The number of injured are not confirmed at this time. No further details are known at this time. There has been a shooting at Fort Hood and injuries are reported. Emergency crews are on the scene. No further details are known at this time. As further details are available, they will be released through FortHoodPressCenter.com.
Military bases are essentially gun-free zones. No one is allowed to be armed unless issued a weapons for specific duty or training. That's why Nidal Hasan was able to kill 13 and wound 31 before being stopped by responding civilian law enforcement.
Military bases are essentially gun-free zones. No one is allowed to be armed unless issued a weapons for specific duty or training. That's why Nidal Hasan was able to kill 13 and wound 31 before being stopped by responding civilian law enforcement.
That is why we must ban all weapons from the military, its for the children!!!!
My daughter had just finished processing and came home for a couple of days before going to Afghanistan on Nov. 5,2009, and a close friend's daughter is there now as a nurse.
Originally posted by Formula88: Military bases are essentially gun-free zones. No one is allowed to be armed unless issued a weapons for specific duty or training. That's why Nidal Hasan was able to kill 13 and wound 31 before being stopped by responding civilian law enforcement.
That was not always the case. From some things I hear soldiers (perhaps just officers) could carry loaded weapons in the 70's. The press conference was interesting. The spokesman, a three star general, praised the response by military police, saying they arrived within fifteen minutes. He got into a back and forth with a reporter about armed servicemen and said he would not get into a debate about it. I expect this to be debated both within the military and of course in public. "When seconds count, the police are only minutes away".
That was not always the case. From some things I hear soldiers (perhaps just officers) could carry loaded weapons in the 70's.
Too bad its not that was not the way things are today. Sure, an armed populace wont deter a person with a death wish and he may have still killed someone, but the body count would have been FAR less.
That was not always the case. From some things I hear soldiers (perhaps just officers) could carry loaded weapons in the 70's. The press conference was interesting. The spokesman, a three star general, praised the response by military police, saying they arrived within fifteen minutes. He got into a back and forth with a reporter about armed servicemen and said he would not get into a debate about it. I expect this to be debated both within the military and of course in public. "When seconds count, the police are only minutes away".
FIFTEEN MINUTES!!!??? Let's see how many rounds I can pop off in twelve minutes and still have time to get away!
When I was in, the soldiers carried their M16s and rode in a truck to the range. The ammo got its OWN truck for the trip to the range. When we deployed to the gulf, they collected all the bolts from all the M16s for the flight.
Originally posted by Boostdreamer: When I was in, the soldiers carried their M16s and rode in a truck to the range. The ammo got its OWN truck for the trip to the range. When we deployed to the gulf, they collected all the bolts from all the M16s for the flight.
. You were during Clinton ? It begs the thought(s). We allow those that protect our security to not be able to protect their own. We do not allow them Second Amendment rights. Nor do we allow our servicemen First Amendment rights.
When I was in, the soldiers carried their M16s and rode in a truck to the range. The ammo got its OWN truck for the trip to the range. When we deployed to the gulf, they collected all the bolts from all the M16s for the flight.
Its still done that way minus taking the bolts out of our M16/M4's when in an aircraft. We just use a barrel plug when in an aircraft. I was stationed at Fort Hood a little over a year ago, all my friends there are fine.
We can't carry concealed unless your side arm is registered with the Provost Marshall and you have a conceal carry permit and we can't carry in uniform unless required by your duty. You must also tell the gate guard that you have a concealed gun and show your permit. Anyone and everyone is subject to inspection at anytime.
So they are saying the gunman was being treated for mental illness, no surprise there. Obviously he was mentally ill.
So what we have here is people that should have guns did not and a mentally ill person who is not supposed to have them did. Gun free zones are nothing more than a shooting gallery for sickos.
Should be almost humorous to watch the guntards try and twist this around. Since their position is basically indefensible my bet is on a call to limit access to the law abiding people that are not criminals.
FIFTEEN MINUTES!!!??? Let's see how many rounds I can pop off in twelve minutes and still have time to get away!
You know from experience that Ft Hood is a very large installation. (sign used to proclaim "Largest military installation in the free world") I doubt they allowed any off base leo in until they had a handle on what was actually going on. Depends where the MPs were at the time as well--even on base, it can be a lengthy drive to any point on base. Things were confounded by the fact that the shooter left the origianl crime scene and drove to another building.
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Milley said the gunman, dressed in military fatigues, opened fire about 4 p.m. The initial shots came inside the 1st Medical Brigade Area, he said, then the gunman got into a vehicle and went to a second building where he continued shooting.
Within 15 minutes military police responded. Milley said a female officer confronted the suspect in a parking lot near the second building. He approached the officer but stopped about 20 feet from her and put his hands up. Then, Milley said, the gunman reached into his jacket and pulled out his weapon. As the officer opened fire, the man shot himself in the head.
The shooter was reportedly being treated for or had sought treatment for mental illness of some kind, presumably PTSD, and had served in Iraq as a truck driver in 2011, but was not a combat veteran according to today's reports.
So they are saying the gunman was being treated for mental illness, no surprise there. Obviously he was mentally ill.
So what we have here is people that should have guns did not and a mentally ill person who is not supposed to have them did. Gun free zones are nothing more than a shooting gallery for sickos.
Should be almost humorous to watch the guntards try and twist this around. Since their position is basically indefensible my bet is on a call to limit access to the law abiding people that are not criminals.
he may have been programed to do the shooting by the CIA... JFK and his brother was killed the same way by a brain washed assassin
Its still done that way minus taking the bolts out of our M16/M4's when in an aircraft. We just use a barrel plug when in an aircraft. I was stationed at Fort Hood a little over a year ago, all my friends there are fine.
We can't carry concealed unless your side arm is registered with the Provost Marshall and you have a conceal carry permit and we can't carry in uniform unless required by your duty. You must also tell the gate guard that you have a concealed gun and show your permit. Anyone and everyone is subject to inspection at anytime.
Ayup and no one is ever going to lie about that, why would they. its not like they make you go threw a thing like at the airports. so how are they supposed to know if someone is carrying if they don't tell you and why should someone who is going to pull something like this, they want the element of surprise in their favor.
glad you weren't there and so few were killed, it could have been a lot worse.
Steve
------------------ Technology is great when it works, and one big pain in the ass when it doesn't
Heh ... paratroopers "assemble, lock, and load" after they jump ? [/sarcasm]
I can't speak for Paratroopers since I have never jumped.
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Originally posted by Red88FF:
So they are saying the gunman was being treated for mental illness, no surprise there. Obviously he was mentally ill.
So what we have here is people that should have guns did not and a mentally ill person who is not supposed to have them did. Gun free zones are nothing more than a shooting gallery for sickos.
Should be almost humorous to watch the guntards try and twist this around. Since their position is basically indefensible my bet is on a call to limit access to the law abiding people that are not criminals.
In the article that maryjane has a link to in his post, it mentions he purchased the gun from Guns Galore, the same place Hasan purchased his guns from. I am surprised that place is still in business, probably not for long now.
In this article, it mentions he was upset about not being able to go to his mother and grandfather's funerals. It also mentions that he has been in the Army for 9 years as a E4, which means as of recently, he was facing RCP. Meaning being separated from the Army. He had alot of stressors to indicate he needed to be monitored. There is no excuse for his actions though.
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Originally posted by nickbrown:
he may have been programed to do the shooting by the CIA... JFK and his brother was killed the same way by a brain washed assassin
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