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Awesome 3D CGI fight scene- A Warriors Dream by Taijiguy
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I am a big fan of Donnie Yen and Bruce Lee, and while the models are extremely well done... the physics leave a whole lot to be desired. Honestly, it doesn't look like physics were even considered, too many sharp stops and changes in direction, no mass to the animation. Good subtle facial expression though.
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Originally posted by carbon:

I am a big fan of Donnie Yen and Bruce Lee, and while the models are extremely well done... the physics leave a whole lot to be desired. Honestly, it doesn't look like physics were even considered, too many sharp stops and changes in direction, no mass to the animation. Good subtle facial expression though.


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that was unbelievably good!!
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I disagree about the physics. I think the physics are applied in a way to create exactly the effect that they want. In hitting the bag there's obvious evidence of the physics, as well as in the clothes and other elements. I think the "lack" of physics is to exaggerate the power of the strikes. I don't think the fights were intended to be "realistic" in that sense. I liked the way they did it.
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Bruce Lee was always totally awesome... I used to love his movies.
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Originally posted by Taijiguy:

I disagree about the physics. I think the physics are applied in a way to create exactly the effect that they want. In hitting the bag there's obvious evidence of the physics, as well as in the clothes and other elements. I think the "lack" of physics is to exaggerate the power of the strikes. I don't think the fights were intended to be "realistic" in that sense. I liked the way they did it.


You're right, the bag hits look good and the overall choreography is great, but he action feels fast forwarded to me when he's fighting the, um, masked dudes, kinda more like Steven Segal than Donnie Yen... Both Donnie and Bruce often go in to a default ready stance, rock 10 frames forward and then 10 frames back, like they're in a Tekken game. It's too rigid.. there's not enough follow through or natural motion. Watch at 2:13 and again at 2:17... it just feels unnatural and it's not just that one pose that's at issue.

In the end, I'm just being picky, I am not really trying to dig on this or start a fight, it really is awesome.

Edit: I just watched the making of video... it was all hand animated, not motion capture. That is pretty damn awesome and it explains what I was seeing... the clothing reacts to the actors movement but the actors can move beyond the limits of reality, which makes it look like a video game rather than a cinematic... very cool stuff and LOTS of work in that animation.

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it felt like the real Bruce to me in the video.
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Am I the only one who got a little misty eyed?

It is a crying shame the world will never see another Bruce Lee, but we are lucky he was alive in the time of cameras and video, or he would just be part of the lore the world.

The 3d models were incredible.
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Originally posted by Flamberge:

Am I the only one who got a little misty eyed?

It is a crying shame the world will never see another Bruce Lee, but we are lucky he was alive in the time of cameras and video, or he would just be part of the lore the world.

The 3d models were incredible.


No. I confess, I did too.
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Originally posted by DanDamage:

it felt like the real Bruce to me in the video.


I agree. The only thing that wasn't "Bruce" is I don't recall him ever really using upward or forward elbow strikes, of which there are a couple in this vid. They just seemed unnatural in his movements. But that's nitpicking too.
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