Your judgement does not affect me, however I would love to see evidence from my postings why you feel this way. Stan does not speak for me, if you think he does you are mistaken.
Not if they support the Constitution and believe in freedom of religious belief.
Christians don't believe in it. By their very belief, if you don't believe in their God and ways you are condemned to hell, and it is the god given duty for every Christian to covert others and preach and evangelize the Christian message.
Christians want to distort and destroy the Constitution and the Bill of Rights.
Christians also believed that slavery is ok and black people are lesser humans as been shown from history of Christian people in early America. The KKK was and is a Christian organization.
Stan, who claims to be Christian, in my opinion, Stan is an evil and sinful child molester, yet poser Christians defend him. Why? Because they are just like him. Hypocrites.
"Christians don't believe in it. By their very belief, if you don't believe in their God and ways you are condemned to hell, and it is the god given duty for every Christian to covert others and preach and evangelize the Christian message.
Christians want to distort and destroy the Constitution and the Bill of Rights.
Christians also believed that slavery is ok and black people are lesser humans as been shown from history of Christian people in early America. The KKK was and is a Christian organization."
Speak for yourself. If you truly believe this about Christians you are sadly mistaken and woefully wrong.
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"Christians don't believe in it. By their very belief, if you don't believe in their God and ways you are condemned to hell, and it is the god given duty for every Christian to covert others and preach and evangelize the Christian message.
Christians want to distort and destroy the Constitution and the Bill of Rights.
Christians also believed that slavery is ok and black people are lesser humans as been shown from history of Christian people in early America. The KKK was and is a Christian organization."
Speak for yourself. If you truly believe this about Christians you are sadly mistaken and woefully wrong.
Christians don't believe in it. By their very belief, if you don't believe in their God and ways you are condemned to hell, and it is the god given duty for every Christian to covert others and preach and evangelize the Christian message.
Christians want to distort and destroy the Constitution and the Bill of Rights.
Christians also believed that slavery is ok and black people are lesser humans as been shown from history of Christian people in early America. The KKK was and is a Christian organization.
Stan, who claims to be Christian, in my opinion, Stan is an evil and sinful child molester, yet poser Christians defend him. Why? Because they are just like him. Hypocrites.
As Col. Potter would say..."Horse hockey!" Where do you come up with this garbage from?
WHAt percentage of Christians are ,were or support action of the KKK?
They had millions of members in their time, with millions of sympathetic Christians helping them.
It wasn't tell Superman radio series that turned kids away from the KKK that they started to decline in number.
Today you have this Christian Patriots that derives from Christians that belong in ideological ghettos. They have this twisted ideology that Jesus God formed America and that White Evangelical Christian Religion is the only true Christian religion. The KKK believe in the same thing, so it just changed names and political tactics.
They had millions of members in their time, with millions of sympathetic Christians helping them.
It wasn't tell Superman radio series that turned kids away from the KKK that they started to decline in number.
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Well as it turns out at their peak in the 20's there were 4 million members and to be a Klansman you were required to be a Christian. (FBI estimates less than .01 actually were active) Apparently and I didn't know this before but many members were in it just to support "American values" and had no racist agenda. Of course I find it hard to believe there were no racist agenda as it is my belief a good majority of the general populace were highly discriminatory.
Being a Christian certainly doesn't make you any smarter or less gullible either. By "AMerican Values" I think that meant or at least coincided with "Christian values" Many people may have gotten sucked into hype and not being that bright took on a name that didn't apply to their actual ideals. As the fall of the KKK was extreme and hard it lends credit to the theory that once people really understood what they were about they no longer supported them. There is if course the very simplistic issue that you won't understand because it doesn't suit you.
To be a Christian it requires you could not be a Klansman. Unlike some other religion Throughout time they have always fought against and disavowed those that abuse the ideals to their own narrow path or extremists. Horrible stuff too. Like Not judging,Love and forgiveness. Even if there were only one true Christian left in the world and all other proclaimed to be it still would not make it so.
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They had millions of members in their time, with millions of sympathetic Christians helping them.
It wasn't tell Superman radio series that turned kids away from the KKK that they started to decline in number.
Today you have this Christian Patriots that derives from Christians that belong in ideological ghettos. They have this twisted ideology that Jesus God formed America and that White Evangelical Christian Religion is the only true Christian religion. The KKK believe in the same thing, so it just changed names and political tactics.
Do you actually believe what you post, or do you just try to say whatever you think will get the biggest reaction? I have a hard time believing anyone with more than 2 functioning brain cells could actually believe everything you post.
Do you actually believe what you post, or do you just try to say whatever you think will get the biggest reaction? I have a hard time believing anyone with more than 2 functioning brain cells could actually believe everything you post.
Oh Jesus. I guess I have to post links.
Unless you believe that sites like Wikipedia is just a left-wing conspiracy organ that spews out falsehoods.
I am posting to the same audience who believe in a 5,000- year old earth, the vain invisible man in the sky, half naked chicks with bird wings and talking burning bushes, correct?
How Superman defeated the KKK. (I could suggest books, but I forget I'm posting to people who don't read them, as they don't even read the Bible, but profess its the word of god.) http://m.mentalfloss.com/article.php?id=23157
Unless you believe that sites like Wikipedia is just a left-wing conspiracy organ that spews out falsehoods.
I am posting to the same audience who believe in a 5,000- year old earth, the vain invisible man in the sky, half naked chicks with bird wings and talking burning bushes, correct?
How Superman defeated the KKK. (I could suggest books, but I forget I'm posting to people who don't read them, as they don't even read the Bible, but profess its the word of god.) http://m.mentalfloss.com/article.php?id=23157
Unless you believe that sites like Wikipedia is just a left-wing conspiracy organ that spews out falsehoods.
I am posting to the same audience who believe in a 5,000- year old earth, the vain invisible man in the sky, half naked chicks with bird wings and talking burning bushes, correct?
How Superman defeated the KKK. (I could suggest books, but I forget I'm posting to people who don't read them, as they don't even read the Bible, but profess its the word of god.)
Should I post more, or do you silly Christians just want to deny everything and just say I have no brain cells?
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Originally posted by pokeyfiero: I can't see any reason to even converse with you.
The eyes with which Wichita sees the world is no more or less valid then the eyes of anyone else. We're all just explorers.
Or at least we should be...
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The Vatican Observatory produces some respectable research in the field of astronomy.
Catholic doctrine has no fundamental quarrel with the basic concept of Darwinian Evolution.
I don't agree with anyone who seizes upon a particular 'tude (attitude) that some Christians [Muslims] have and then projects it onto every other Christian [Muslim].
Unless you believe that sites like Wikipedia is just a left-wing conspiracy organ that spews out falsehoods.
I am posting to the same audience who believe in a 5,000- year old earth, the vain invisible man in the sky, half naked chicks with bird wings and talking burning bushes, correct?
How Superman defeated the KKK. (I could suggest books, but I forget I'm posting to people who don't read them, as they don't even read the Bible, but profess its the word of god.) http://m.mentalfloss.com/article.php?id=23157
Should I post more, or do you silly Christians just want to deny everything and just say I have no brain cells?
I've been around many Christians and non Christians my entire life, I have met maybe one person who might fit your concept of the main stream Christian. Perhaps you need to review and reevaluate your conclusions. Or perhaps not. I really don't care....
The eyes with which Wichita sees the world is no more or less valid then the eyes of anyone else. We're all just explorers.
Or at least we should be...
Every light creates dark shadows. While people may believe that their religion, their form of government, their culture may have no flaws and is the answer to the problems of the world, if only we "all" subscribe to their ways, the greater fool is the one who refuse to recognize the dark shadows that have been cast from the light. Christianity, Democracy, America, Capitalism, Socialism, Atheistic or what ever, they all dark shadows.
Christians are just as good and evil as Muslims. Atheists are just as good and evil as Buddhist.
Fools cannot or deny to recognize their evils. Many poser Christians on here for example give Stan a pass because you believe him to be good because he professes to be Christian. In fact he is a very evil man. Many here don't want to recognize that the KKK is a Christian organization, but it is. There are many examples.
Recognize your shadows.
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The KKK espouses a version of Christianity. Few would agree that it is (as Wichita just said) a "Christian organization", in the sense that most people understand "Christian organization": An organization that both espouses Christianity and also has the approval of any significant and widely respected Christian authority, or the backing by representation from any large number of Christians. If Mr. Wichita's ideas are in order, then it is his phraseology or wording that does not do justice to his thinking.
Just as I have often said (in so many words) that extremist Islamist movements like Al Qaeda and Boko Harum espouse a version of Islam, but I do not consider them to be "Islamic organizations". To say that would be to both mischaracterize and also slander many thousands of their more authentically Islamic antagonists (and all too often, their victims).
Or another way to look at this: The missing word is "authentic". Would many Christians of the present day consider the KKK an "authentically" Christian organization? I think not.
An alternative to "authentic" that most people would understand in this context is "representative". Is the KKK a representatively Christian organization? I think that most of us would say "No". And I think that "No, it's not a representatively Christian organization" would be a true observation, for the present day.
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"Christians don't believe in it. By their very belief, if you don't believe in their God and ways you are condemned to hell, and it is the god given duty for every Christian to covert others and preach and evangelize the Christian message.
Christians want to distort and destroy the Constitution and the Bill of Rights.
Christians also believed that slavery is ok and black people are lesser humans as been shown from history of Christian people in early America. The KKK was and is a Christian organization."
Speak for yourself. If you truly believe this about Christians you are sadly mistaken and woefully wrong.
The KKK espouses a version of Christianity. Few would agree that it is (as Wichita just said) a "Christian organization", in the sense that most people understand "Christian organization": An organization that both espouses Christianity and also has the approval of any significant and widely respected Christian authority, or the backing by representation from any large number of Christians. If Mr. Wichita's ideas are in order, then it is his phraseology or wording that does not do justice to his thinking.
Just as I have often said (in so many words) that extremist Islamist movements like Al Qaeda and Boko Harum espouse a version of Islam, but I do not consider them to be "Islamic organizations". To say that would be to both mischaracterize and also slander many thousands of their more authentically Islamic antagonists (and all too often, their victims).
Or another way to look at this: The missing word is "authentic". Would many Christians of the present day consider the KKK an "authentically" Christian organization? I think not.
An alternative to "authentic" that most people would understand in this context is "representative". Is the KKK a representatively Christian organization? I think that most of us would say "No". And I think that "No, it's not a representatively Christian organization" would be a true observation, for the present day.
The KKK was formed by the Democrat party (we know this to be 100% pure fact) and they used cross-burnings and the bible as a means to try to engage other southern Baptists of Democrat persuasion by making them believe that it was their duty to reject blacks. As is par for the course with Democrat politics, it was to fool, deceive, and conn people into coming to their side and supporting their causes. Christ associated himself with people of all walks of life, including prostitutes, gays, leppers, or anyone that culture perceived as "lesser." I'm certainly not suggesting that blacks are the same as prostitutes or leppers, but at the time, Democrats generally believed they were.
Where in the hell did you get this from? If I were Stan, I'd be preparing to sue your ass, right about now.
You left out, "in my opinion".
It is my opinion that he is. Just stating an opinion not a fact.
Stan has posted that he often goes to 3rd world countries to pick up young women. He claims he has been though a number of mail-order brides.
It is my opinion that dirty old men who go over to poor countries to do sex tours and throw away mail order brides are people that are evil. And in those countries many underage women are exploited by dirty old men like Stan.
I know many of you Christians on here have no issues with his actions, stating that so long as its legal there is nothing wrong with it. But at the same time, many Christians condemn abortion and believe it to be wrong and evil.
Originally posted by Wichita: I know many of you Christians on here have no issues with his actions, stating that so long as its legal there is nothing wrong with it.
Stan has posted that he often goes to 3rd world countries to pick up young women. He claims he has been though a number of mail-order brides.
And I happen to not believe him. I believe he's spinning a yarn for the sake of the reader.
See... That's the thing with Stan. While everyone else is getting their fruit-of-the-looms all knotted up, I'm just reading and laughing (or shaking my head, depending..) I fully believe that 80% of what he says is for the sole purpose of pulling peoples' chains, with a little bit of reality mixed in.
As for the "reality" part... He saw the GM bankruptcy coming, while lots of people didn't. I hope that he's not as accurate with many of his other "predictions".
I know many of you Christians on here have no issues with his actions, stating that so long as its legal there is nothing wrong with it. But at the same time, many Christians condemn abortion and believe it to be wrong and evil.
Legal killing of defenseless, unwanted children, legalized by a government due to lobbying of a vocal small segment of the population?
And I happen to not believe him. I believe he's spinning a yarn for the sake of the reader.
See... That's the thing with Stan. While everyone else is getting their fruit-of-the-looms all knotted up, I'm just reading and laughing (or shaking my head, depending..) I fully believe that 80% of what he says is for the sole purpose of pulling peoples' chains, with a little bit of reality mixed in.
As for the "reality" part... He saw the GM bankruptcy coming, while lots of people didn't. I hope that he's not as accurate with many of his other "predictions".
Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]: The KKK was formed by the Democrat party (we know this to be 100% pure fact) and they used cross-burnings and the bible as a means to try to engage other southern Baptists of Democrat persuasion by making them believe that it was their duty to reject blacks. As is par for the course with Democrat politics, it was to fool, deceive, and conn people into coming to their side and supporting their causes. Christ associated himself with people of all walks of life, including prostitutes, gays, leppers, or anyone that culture perceived as "lesser." I'm certainly not suggesting that blacks are the same as prostitutes or leppers, but at the time, Democrats generally believed they were.
partly true but the KKK did not disappear they did become the modern core of the Republican party in the south BUT YOU FORGOT THEY WERE 100% CON'S AND CHRISTIANS and their descendants and survivors are today the new souths GOP/teaparty CON'S and the same twisted racist BS is believed by the christian IDENTITY movement TODAY along with the arian nations/skinheads/neo-nazi's ie the armed bundy supporters
Originally posted by Wichita: Christians don't believe in it. By their very belief, if you don't believe in their God and ways you are condemned to hell, and it is the god given duty for every Christian to covert others and preach and evangelize the Christian message.
Christians want to distort and destroy the Constitution and the Bill of Rights.
Christians also believed that slavery is ok and black people are lesser humans as been shown from history of Christian people in early America. The KKK was and is a Christian organization.
Stan, who claims to be Christian, in my opinion, Stan is an evil and sinful child molester, yet poser Christians defend him. Why? Because they are just like him. Hypocrites.
yup. and this is what so many "of those types" will deny to the end. it has been one of the greatest abuses of mob rules ever unleashed on earth. and the muslims are not far behind. I dont know what it is about these Jew God religions which makes them so hateful when they "mob up", but boy oh boy can they get the killin done.
If they beleive the Jew God adam/eve, noah, etc junk - they maybe fine one on one - but once they gang up - they WILL find their excuse in doings god work to kill you. and probably in a barbaric way. nothing "they" like more than to see a "non beleiver" suffer.
Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]: The KKK was formed by the Democrat party Conservatives of the time (we know this to be 100% pure fact) and they used cross-burnings and the bible as a means to try to engage other southern Baptists of Democrat Conservative persuasion by making them believe that it was their duty to reject blacks. As is par for the course with Democrat Conservative politics, it was to fool, deceive, and conn people into coming to their side and supporting their causes. Christ associated himself with people of all walks of life, including prostitutes, gays, leppers, or anyone that culture perceived as "lesser." I'm certainly not suggesting that blacks are the same as prostitutes or leppers, but at the time, Democrats Conservatives generally believed they were.
Fixed it for ya. part of communication is to use accurate terms. Many folk - especially the Fox Kool-Aid Chuggers, thinking it be tea, probably do not know actual history - just what has been spoon fed to them.....Unless of course your intent is to mislead.
Yes - DEMOCRATS started the christian group, the KKK. Conservative Democrats. And, it is not up to ANYONE whether they are or are not "actual" christians. If they say they are - thats that - they are. There are very few - if only one - requirement to be a christian - and that is to say so. all else is unquantifiable BS. And them hippie dippey liberal republicans didnt know what to do.....
the very basics of the emotional problems which create racism are conservative in nature. but, now we are into another education required topic, beyond basic grade school history - so - if they cant get thru grade school - dont want to confuse them to much.....
oops - went on to long - it is Tea Time! get your Kool-Aid!
anyways - back on topic: YES. anyone should be able to pray. I do think there maybe inappropriate times. as in - dont use this as an excuse to not do your job or shirk responsibilities.
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Your post wasnt related to the thread, it was a pot stir and a troll move. As were the image and later posts. I made a recommendation to you, I could have said please, I apologise for not saying please.
..Yes - DEMOCRATS started the christian group, the KKK. ..
Even acting in the simplest racist act or belief is a failure of a Christian. Someone who wants to be that way is not a Christian. You can try and say that is a cop out but it cannot be. We dont get to define everything how we want to, things have definitions. The other way to look at it is not what is a Christian, but why is a Christian?
Originally posted by 2.5: Even acting in the simplest racist act or belief is a failure of a Christian. Someone who wants to be that way is not a Christian. You can try and say that is a cop out but it cannot be. We dont get to define everything how we want to, things have definitions. The other way to look at it is not what is a Christian, but why is a Christian?
I would say so as well. but, it is not up to me. and it is not up to you. if someone says they are a christian - thats it - they are christian. nothing anyone can do about it. you are not in the position to take away ANYONES religion. no matter how poorly they practice it. Which is in fact they very root of this thread.
I would say so as well. but, it is not up to me. and it is not up to you. if someone says they are a christian - thats it - they are christian. nothing anyone can do about it. you are not in the position to take away ANYONES religion. no matter how poorly they practice it. Which is in fact they very root of this thread.
If they say they believe the Bible and Jesus, but do not, they are lying no?
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Fixed it for ya. part of communication is to use accurate terms. Many folk - especially the Fox Kool-Aid Chuggers, thinking it be tea, probably do not know actual history - just what has been spoon fed to them.....Unless of course your intent is to mislead.
Yes - DEMOCRATS started the christian group, the KKK. Conservative Democrats. And, it is not up to ANYONE whether they are or are not "actual" christians. If they say they are - thats that - they are. There are very few - if only one - requirement to be a christian - and that is to say so. all else is unquantifiable BS. And them hippie dippey liberal republicans didnt know what to do.....
the very basics of the emotional problems which create racism are conservative in nature. but, now we are into another education required topic, beyond basic grade school history - so - if they cant get thru grade school - dont want to confuse them to much.....
oops - went on to long - it is Tea Time! get your Kool-Aid!
anyways - back on topic: YES. anyone should be able to pray. I do think there maybe inappropriate times. as in - dont use this as an excuse to not do your job or shirk responsibilities.
29,000 posts. Every one an icy slap-in-the-face on a sweltering day. And I, drawn like a moth to a flame, am continually intrigued.
Pyrthian, you're alright, I don't care what the other 99.99999% of the population think!
