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McDonald's Tests Cashier Eliminating Kiosks by Doug85GT
Started on: 05-14-2014 12:31 PM
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Originally posted by tshark:

I worked ad McD a long time ago. Pay was a higher $ amount, but I don't remember much else about it. Of course, I usually can't remember what I ate the previous meal, either.

I do remember that we were supposed to dispose of burgers and such after the 30-minute timer went off, but they qould just reset the timer. Again, and again. So, burgers could be 2 hours past their good time. I remember them re-using grease. I saw patties used after the expiration date. I saw ice cream that had been left out used.

Once, a customer at the window asked for ketchup and the other items in his order that were missed. All very reasonable. They called the police on him.

I quit working there.



When I worked there, they had just switched to the non-animal fat. It had a time to live date, and was replaced regularly. For us, (the one in Northern Virginia), when the expired time came, we threw out the sandwiches, or... they let us eat them and / or take them home. We were honest enough not to make more than we thought we would sell... but when it happened due to the occasional over planning, we would eat them.

But, our McDonalds was a corporate McDonalds, so we only carried the corporate menu. I suspect possibly the McDonalds you worked at might have been a franchise. They are often more driven by individual profit margin than the corporate McDonalds are... which mostly insist on adhering to their defined regulations.


 
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I worked there too. It was during the McLean times. I loved that "burger". Pickles and mustard only.

What is a person to do? I could spend all day running back and getting it fixed, complain to management... But it just keeps getting worse.

Brad


It just seems like people don't have respect for the job they do anymore. I was raised that no matter what it was that I was going to do... unless I worked my hardest at it, then I shouldn't even bother.
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Not necessarily. In the 60's nobody could have predicted the millions of IT jobs created. Some jobs disappear, while others take their place.


As time goes on, technology will prevent those 'replacement' jobs from appearing at all. Its a slow net-loss.
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It just seems like people don't have respect for the job they do anymore. .


Why should they? They are *entitled*..
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And when Holographic pins make me obsolete, someone will still be needed to service the holographic projectors.



VR headsets, so cheap they are disposable. No pins, no service guy. ( and no esoteric future technology needed.. just a price drop )
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If the union push for $15.00 per hour fast food wages becomes reality it will be three steps closer.


Precisely what I was thinking. Pushing up the price of fast food/service will have it's consequences. Though, I think this would have probably happened sooner or later anyway but, I have no doubt the $15.00 an hour push had something to do with it.

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As time goes on, technology will prevent those 'replacement' jobs from appearing at all. Its a slow net-loss.


History disagrees. Fluctuations aside, the workforce has steadily grown as the population has grown.
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Saying (or implying) that Mexico doesn't have automation shows how little you know about the country.

Brad, I can see Mexico from my front porch (que Sara Palin).
I never said nor implied Mexico has no automation. Kinda' the opposite.
 
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It is because of government and I don't mean lack of government.

We are headed to that realm. The only "industry" adding jobs here is government, and those that contribute/donate to government. Can you spell u-n-i-o-n and b-i-g b-u-s-i-n-e-s-s ?

 
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I hope I am proved wrong.

I fear that you are not. Our government is enslaving us to them. The sheeple are happy. Welfare pays just as well as entry level work, without the work. Except the work at the election booth.

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As time goes on, technology will prevent those 'replacement' jobs from appearing at all. Its a slow net-loss.



I can't get on board with this statement. People have been saying this time and time again. There are now more jobs today than there ever were before in history. What has happened is that a lot of it has gone to cheaper labor. However, until a computer can learn to program itself, or build new robots and program them... what you're saying is an impossibility. Every new technology requires a design, develop, build, implement, maintain, and lifecycle component to it. All of the can only be done by human at this point, except the build component.


 
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Why should they? They are *entitled*..


Ugh... I wish you weren't right.


 
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Perhaps that's the problem, though. Since some people don't want to do things correctly, why should they do anything?


Because they haven't quite yet been given a free ride by the government... so until such point, they will just half-ass everything in anticipation.
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History disagrees. Fluctuations aside, the workforce has steadily grown as the population has grown.


Using history to predict the future is misguided. The balance is shifting. Never before have we been able to replace every human job out there, with machines that are self sufficient.

We will see this soon.


Note i didnt say self-aware. We may never reach that point, and if we do, we may never be able to prove it. But self-sufficient, yes.

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However, until a computer can learn to program itself.


We are almost there now, and will see that within 10 years. Actually, we are there already, in limited examples. But full scale implementation is a decade away at most.

( we would already have been there if Microsoft had not got in the way and put us back at least 20 years )
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Using history to predict the future is misguided. The balance is shifting. Never before have we been able to replace every human job out there, with machines that are self sufficient.

We will see this soon.


Note i didnt say self-aware. We may never reach that point, and if we do, we may never be able to prove it. But self-sufficient, yes.



A lot of politicians say the same thing, while making the same mistakes over and over.
Your comment about "replace every human job" is misleading. If the total number of jobs grows, then yes lost jobs have been replaced. That's not to say it's a 1 for 1 replacement and that each person who lost a job is qualified for one of the newly created ones. Life is never a zero sum game.
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If the total number of jobs grows, then yes lost jobs have been replaced.


Yes, that is true. but we are using different math. i say the number of actual jobs will shrink in the near future, regardless of population growth.

I'm not saying that isn't what happened to date, as yes it has. But i say the future will hold a different pattern. Will *everyone* be out of work? No, but the majority will be.

how we plan/deal with this situation will determine our long term fate as a species on this planet.
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Yes, that is true. but we are using different math. i say the number of actual jobs will shrink in the near future, regardless of population growth.

I'm not saying that isn't what happened to date, as yes it has. But i say the future will hold a different pattern. Will *everyone* be out of work? No, but the majority will be.

how we plan/deal with this situation will determine our long term fate as a species on this planet.


Probly all be indoors at home hoping not to get Ebola huh? Or are you thinking just economic crash.
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Probly all be indoors at home hoping not to get Ebola huh? Or are you thinking just economic crash.


It all depends on how we as a global society handle it.. an economic crash is not inevitable, but i would expect a lot of pain thru the transition at the least.

Of course if we are still "bickering" like we are today, it wont be pretty

And i guess i will accept that there might be pockets of society that reject the advanced technology, and for them "jobs" ( but not in the traditional sense ) will still exist if they want to eat and have a roof... On the other side of things, i also don't expect it to become a real life version of 'wall-e', as some people, but not all, will want to do 'stuff' for themselves and mankind. But it wont be 'jobs and commerce' as we know it.

EDIT: And while i doubt machines will ever become truly sentient, and not just emulate it.... if they ever were to become self-aware, we are most likely screwed.

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We have Wawa's here on the east coast and they have these touch screen order stations in like every store. You go through the menu's picking the icon of the foods you want and it prints you out a receipt. You take the receipt to the cashier and pay and wait for you number to be called to pick up your order. Works great!

I found this picture amusing concerning the whole minimum wage debacle.



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When EBT and other government handouts pay more than work, why work?
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When EBT and other government handouts pay more than work, why work?


Even if it paid the same or slightly less there would still be no incentive. "pride" and "drive" are no longer is applicable.

I do give a pass to people who are truly disabled, but often times they get screwed. I dont mind helping them.

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a crap job will always be a crap job.
not gotta get around that by forcing higher wages.
all the other wages will go up around it, and its right back to being a crap job.

I am 100% fine with moving up the bar. maybe, just maybe, it will draw some better quality folk for the small window of time before the wage is back to being a crap wage again.

because again - a crap job will always be a crap job. no matter how much you polish that turd - everything else still always outshines it.
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Originally posted by Pyrthian:

a crap job will always be a crap job.
not gotta get around that by forcing higher wages.
all the other wages will go up around it, and its right back to being a crap job.

I am 100% fine with moving up the bar. maybe, just maybe, it will draw some better quality folk for the small window of time before the wage is back to being a crap wage again.

because again - a crap job will always be a crap job. no matter how much you polish that turd - everything else still always outshines it.


So you are willing to instantly increase EVERYONE'S cost of living ( permanently ) for no "practical" reason, just so you can feel better? No thanks.
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I'm still waiting for delivery by drone.


Al Qaida and the Taliban and ISIS have experienced drone delivery. I'm waiting for their report back.

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