Working on some more. Daughter wanted a "Nightmare Before Christmas" themed one and her Fiancee wanted a silver blue and black. The rest I'll advertise on vape pages around here or throw them up on eBay.

Looks awesome as always.

Curious, do you all think I would have any issues if I packed my box, battery, charger, a couple of coils with cotton balls and some bottles of e-juice in luggage for international travel? I don't want to take it in carry on because it's not like I can use it until the flight is over, but I don't know if you can put it in your regular luggage. I have to head down to Grand Cayman for a couple of weeks this May.

quote Originally posted by Khw: Curious, do you all think I would have any issues if I packed my box, battery, charger, a couple of coils with cotton balls and some bottles of e-juice in luggage for international travel? I don't want to take it in carry on because it's not like I can use it until the flight is over, but I don't know if you can put it in your regular luggage. I have to head down to Grand Cayman for a couple of weeks this May.

I went to cali last year and had no issues. Just dont be that dick head that vapes on the airplane.
On a side note I just bought a sub tank and I love it

Which size did you get? (subTank) I am trying NOT to buy one

quote Originally posted by Red88FF: Which size did you get? (subTank) I am trying NOT to buy one

Got the subtank mini
http://imgur.com/2EqbqiD

quote Originally posted by 87antuzzi: I went to cali last year and had no issues. Just dont be that dick head that vapes on the airplane. On a side note I just bought a sub tank and I love it

Yeah, I treat vaping like smoking. If I'm not allowed to smoke there, I don't vape either. Hence why I figured I'd pack it away in my check-in luggage rather than carry-on. I just figured it'd be less hassle if the person checking my carry-on has some issue or inclination that it could be used in some malicious way.

quote Originally posted by 87antuzzi: Got the subtank mini http://imgur.com/2EqbqiD

Ah, Kanger Subtank! I've heard good things about those. Curious though, does it look like you could disassemble the coil cartridge and re-wrap your own coil for it like the coils used in the Protanks? I know it wasn't exaclty "easy" with the Protank coild design and you had to use 30g wire or so, but it was doable.

Been awhile guys... small update on my camping escapades (vape-scepades?)

Awhile back I was given a k100 mechanical mod (thanks Dave :thumbs up: ) minus charger. Did some work for a buddy back around Christmas and he gave me a hybrid mod that runs 18350s and came with a charger and 2 800mAh batteries. Bonus, the k100 battery works with this charger.

So I finally had a chance about 2 weeks ago to really start playing with the mechanical mod (side note, the hybrid mid works great and I like it a lot, but don't use it ad much because it has a 10sec cutoff...I vape like I'm smoking a cigar, get a good drag rolling for flavor then let it rip).

First test was with mount baker vapor orange dream bar in 12mg on a standard zig zag disposable cart. Not bad, much better flavor and vapor than my iTaste vv3.0.

On the drive back from Washington to PA in the venture (whole nother story...) I picked up a T2 tank from a place in Nebraska and some juice. Semi disposable replaceable bottom coil tank. Much better than the ziggy. New flavor was E-Titan blackberry beetlejuice 6mg. Not bad, could've been better. Needed more blackberry

I've always been fond of cartomizer, the draw feels closer to analogs imho. The mechanical mod came with a tobh atty rad (once again, thanks Dave), but I'm not too thrilled with rda and dripping. I can't breathe and can't do it without coughing a lung up.


I needed a new tank the other day and picked up a Smok Micro ADC II cartomizer. Has adjustable airflow ring with 2 slots as well as an adjustable flow coil head. Rips like mad, still my go to tank with the iTaste. 6mg mount baker honey berries

Haven't entirely ruled out dripping and using an RDA, I've been looking around though and considered an autodripper rda, couldn't find one I liked though and started looking for sub ohm clearomizers ...I almost bought an aspire nautilus then someone mentioned the.kanger subtank being rebuildable...so I went out today and sprung $55 for a full size kanger subtank and holy carp. I farking love this thing paired with that k100. The hits are fabulous, and that's just with the.factory installed OCC coil. Haven't played with the rda deck yet but it really appeals to me because it's rebuildable and makes it cheaper to cape.

Next project is DIY 100% vg juice with zero nicotine (working my way down to 0 from 12 right now). Going to do a botanical extracted version too (v juice with chamomile, hops, etc)

That's about it right now, will update more when I play with the kanger more and upgrade my battery. Working on getting a Sony vct5 (?) 30A 2600mA. All these batteries I need a multi charger lol (eyeing up the nitecore 4 bay)

Btw Dave, do you remember the ratings on that battery you gave me with the k100? Its an 18650 right?

quote Originally posted by Xerces_Blackthorne: Been awhile guys... small update on my camping escapades (vape-scepades?) Awhile back I was given a k100 mechanical mod (thanks Dave :thumbs up: ) minus charger. Did some work for a buddy back around Christmas and he gave me a hybrid mod that runs 18350s and came with a charger and 2 800mAh batteries. Bonus, the k100 battery works with this charger. So I finally had a chance about 2 weeks ago to really start playing with the mechanical mod (side note, the hybrid mid works great and I like it a lot, but don't use it ad much because it has a 10sec cutoff...I vape like I'm smoking a cigar, get a good drag rolling for flavor then let it rip). First test was with mount baker vapor orange dream bar in 12mg on a standard zig zag disposable cart. Not bad, much better flavor and vapor than my iTaste vv3.0. On the drive back from Washington to PA in the venture (whole nother story...) I picked up a T2 tank from a place in Nebraska and some juice. Semi disposable replaceable bottom coil tank. Much better than the ziggy. New flavor was E-Titan blackberry beetlejuice 6mg. Not bad, could've been better. Needed more blackberry I've always been fond of cartomizer, the draw feels closer to analogs imho. The mechanical mod came with a tobh atty rad (once again, thanks Dave), but I'm not too thrilled with rda and dripping. I can't breathe and can't do it without coughing a lung up. I needed a new tank the other day and picked up a Smok Micro ADC II cartomizer. Has adjustable airflow ring with 2 slots as well as an adjustable flow coil head. Rips like mad, still my go to tank with the iTaste. 6mg mount baker honey berries Haven't entirely ruled out dripping and using an RDA, I've been looking around though and considered an autodripper rda, couldn't find one I liked though and started looking for sub ohm clearomizers ...I almost bought an aspire nautilus then someone mentioned the.kanger subtank being rebuildable...so I went out today and sprung $55 for a full size kanger subtank and holy carp. I farking love this thing paired with that k100. The hits are fabulous, and that's just with the.factory installed OCC coil. Haven't played with the rda deck yet but it really appeals to me because it's rebuildable and makes it cheaper to cape. Next project is DIY 100% vg juice with zero nicotine (working my way down to 0 from 12 right now). Going to do a botanical extracted version too (v juice with chamomile, hops, etc) That's about it right now, will update more when I play with the kanger more and upgrade my battery. Working on getting a Sony vct5 (?) 30A 2600mA. All these batteries I need a multi charger lol (eyeing up the nitecore 4 bay) Btw Dave, do you remember the ratings on that battery you gave me with the k100? Its an 18650 right?

CRUD! Dammit! I'm sorry Brian. When you were passing back by, after you sent me your phone number I got news about my Dad that had me in a daze almost on autopilot trying to get my head wrapped around it. Everything else just kinda went away. Long story short, my mom called and he has been diagnosed with MDS and ITP, both blood diorders. The MDS is pretty advanced and it won't be long until it turns to Leukemia but because of the ITP and his age a marrow transplant isn't possible. He's been given 2 to 6 years but the Doctor said "That's not a guarantee, just a guess with how things stand now. It is possible it could suddenly progress and be 3 months so do those things you've been wanting to do now before you get to sick to do them.". So everything else just, well it was forgotten. I apologize. I really didn't mean to forget you were coming through again .

As to the Battery, yes it is a 18650 and it's a high drain with 2000 mah capacity. I've tried to find something that listed it's max amps, but everywhere I searched all I got was "We don't know for sure so treat it like it's 20 amps to be safe". Now, safe at 20 amps according to ohms law is .2 ohms or higher resistance. I don't ever build my RDA's that low, I like sitting at a .4 to .6 range. So it can be used with the new "sub ohm" tanks that have been coming out lately as those are, from what I've seen, mostly .5 or .6 ohms which is higher than .2. And yes dripping RDA's give you a lot more vapor than a clearomizer so you have to take small draws at first but over time you will be able to take longer and longer draws. I still use my dripper although I've changes from the Vulcan I had when you came by last time. My daughter got me a Darkhorse for Christmas which is great for big clouds because the airflow can be set really loose on it. Then my wife and I bought a Aeolus for our daily use which has a different air inlet design that I really like because I don't have juice running out of the side of the RDS anymore if I accidentally put a little to much juice in it. With the Aeolus the air comes in from the top cap instead of the bottom or lower sides like other RDA's.

Anywho, again, I'm sorry Brian. My mind was really lost for awhile and I'm still a little out of it but better than I was.

Bought the most amazing juice from OKCvapes in OKC yesterday. Its called Guru Vapor and its blackberry crumble. Best juice ive ever had. Oh yeah, bought a Jellyfish as well

Dave, no worries bro.sorry to hear about your dad. I went thru your area way early morning. Thought about calling you for coffee and breakfast but I wasn't sure if you'd be up and around or at work. I left Oregon Sunday night and booked all the way to twin falls idaho...made it in about 5 am then slept a few hours. Left twin falls around 9am. From there I just pulled an all day run straight to Kearney Nebraska...got in about 1 am Tuesday morning and stayed til Wednesday night. Stopped in Iowa Wednesday night, left 10 am Thursday morning and drove non stop back to mertztown PA. Walked thru the front door at about 8:30am Friday morning. That last 400 miles was hell lol

Any who, back to the topic. I picked up some different juice today, company called cosmic fog. Milk and honey flavor 6mg. Switched over the subtank to the RBA head and filled her up, I'm definitely sold on sub ohm. This thing pulls like a dream with the rba. And the flavor is this juice is expensive, it's one of the "premium"juices that come in a glass eyedropper bottle. $12 for a 15ml. Shop owner is a good friend though, so I got this and I also got 2 new batteries for $20 ($10each for 2 batteries. Basically juice was free). Dark blue marked EPT 18650 2200mAh 3.7v 2014_06. No idea who makes them, and no idea what the amps are. Will know more once my buddy gets back to me

quote Originally posted by Xerces_Blackthorne: Dark blue marked EPT 18650 2200mAh 3.7v 2014_06. No idea who makes them, and no idea what the amps are. Will know more once my buddy gets back to me

Sounds like maybe Efest or Imren. Either way, if I remember correctly both should be rated in the 25 to 30 amp range.

Damn though, that's one heck of a drive! I did Chicago to Cali once over i think it was 3 days (been awhile was back in my 20's) and that was bad enough but you came pretty close to a coast to coast drive. Just another little jaunt into MD, NJ or DE and you'd be there! LOL.

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Those mods are coming a long way since the prototypes I first saw Lookin sharp Dave

Ya know, I was sitting here the other night watching Dr Who, and it dawned on me that the mod you gave me looks awfully similar to one of the sonic screwdrivers..Especially with the kanger subtank attached...add a green LED and a couple other accents, and boom

Thank you Brian .

Here's one of the more recently completed and sold ones.

Sweet! Not so sure what one would need both batteries in series for without some sort of regulation...I tried it with 2 18350s in this k100 and burnt the coil out within all of 5 seconds lol

quote Originally posted by Xerces_Blackthorne: Sweet! Not so sure what one would need both batteries in series for without some sort of regulation...I tried it with 2 18350s in this k100 and burnt the coil out within all of 5 seconds lol

If you use 24 gauge wire and run 10+ wraps per coil series will work. It's not really for sub ohm use though, LOL. I've got one RDA, my Dark Horse, with dual 12 wrap 24's in it I use when running in series. My Aeolus I use dual 6 wrap 24's in and run parallel. The series makes really big clouds, but your putting juice on your cotton ever 3ish pulls. If you want to take short pulls but get a lot of vapor, then series is the way to go. If you want longer pulls, like you and I, then parallel is better. Still it's fun to be able to switch over to series for a little while just because you can.

An update:

Burnt out the coils on the subtank rba cartridge after about 5 tank fills (roughly 15ml juice). I did change the wick twice though between fills. Tried my hand at rebuilding the rba deck with the 2 prewrapped coils and failed. Tasted like monkey balls. Need to pick up some kanthal and some organic cotton wick and try wrapping my own. And on that note, what size kanthal should I use to get a .4-.5 ohm dual coil wrap? I was thinking 22 ga with Genesis brand Cotton Bacon (or if I can get some, the same stuff that Kanger provided in the kit).

I'm also looking for a soft bit wide bore drip tip. I keep cracking myself in the front teeth with this metal one. And while its wide bore, I want something a bit bigger and perhaps a tad longer (friction fit with 1 o ring?)

Other than that, the K100 is going to need a rebuild. The 510 thread is coming unseated from the battery vent cap and is making it difficult to get a good connection with the kanger vanity base attached. May buy another mod, I have a friend that has a nemesis hcigar clone that needs polished he's willing to let go for cheap (as in, next to nothing). The Stealth Hybrid mod won't fire sub ohm coils very well with the 18350s, so I've been using the iTaste much more lately. The K100 works without that base attached, but the tank wobbles side to side and feels loose. The knurled threading on the bottom of the 510 post isn't grabbing quite right and is worn. The Stealth came with an extra screw in 510 post, if I can find it I am going to try and modify it to work.

Back to OCC 0.5 ohm coils in the subtank with a new 3mg juice that my buddy mixed up using Vapormates juice. Called paul bearer. really sweet and nutty, with hints of cinnamon toast crunch and a touch of maple praline. Definitely an after dinner desert flavor, not something to vape daily. worked down from 12 mg in 2 weeks (12 to 9 to 3) and have been vaping less and less.

Think I found the problem with the K100+. The 510 thread post is press fit into the top battery cap and is semi floating. The post keeps getting loose and sliding out over time, so I have to keep pounding it back down in. I "think" its because the firing switch is tight and I may be pushing it too hard. I've tried adjusting the tubes and think I may have found a good setting.

I also found a couple complaints online about the rubber grommet that sits under the contact pin in the 510 thread post giving people trouble. Apparently if the atomizer gets screwed on too tight. over time it can work its way above the post and cause a dead short. I removed mine completely and so far she fires much better. I suspect the vanity base for the subtank did this and that was what caused it to not fire when the base was attached. The contacts on the subtank are 2 piece with a spring loaded center pin, and with that grommet being over top, the pin was able to reach far enough down to contact.

Going to mod this a bit more, drill a few more vent holes for the battery, and build a neodymium magnetic fire switch. I may even add an Evolv kick to it, not sure about that yet though (not seeing the point of it, takes the mechanical out of mechanical mod and hybridizes it? can someone clarify this for me?) Getting a wide bore drip tip for the subtank as soon as they come into the shop

25A-30A is about all I need out of my setup. Never going to run lower than 0.45 ohm coils, and quite frankly I'm happy with the 0.5 ohm coils. Why you would need 0.1 ohm coils is beyond me, thats just asking for a battery to vent to the face or explode. I still haven't built any coils yet, I tried my hand at installing the prewrapped ones that came with the tank and had no luck. Going to pick up kanthal and cotton bacon tomorrow and try wrapping an 8 coil 24 ga. Eventually I'd like to do dual coil within a coil just to experiment and see if it works (essentially 4 coils total)

Yeah, the Kamry K100 or K101 are good starter mech mods, but they aren't the best out there. I never had problems with the 510 connector but then I only used it for about 6 months before I got my Chi-Yu... which now sits and gathers dust since i made my box. Really though, the only reason to go to .1 or lower is your using 22 gauge or larger wire (20, 16, 18 and such) or you running multiple small coils in parallel to make bigger clouds. For flavor I run a .3-.4 coil on my parallel box. When I want big clouds I swap to my other atty sitting around a 1 ohm load and switch my box to series. It makes huge clouds with decent flavor. Honestly Brian, I'd say stick with 24 gauge wire if you don't want to go below .4. Build dual coil setup with 7 winds for a micro or 6 for a macro and that should get you near that .4.

Oh, and I sold 2 more of my boxes today. They were "special order" and just happened to be picked up on the same day but it's nice to have people who commit to something actually pick it up so I don't have to try to sell the color scheme they wanted to someone else.

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Can you explain what the point of this stuff is? A "safer" way to get nicotine(minus the hundreds of nasty other chemicals) into your body?

Not trying to be a d1ck... just don't understand it...I only know one person who uses this sorta stuff...

Thanks

quote Originally posted by TheDigitalAlchemist: Not trying to be a d1ck... just don't understand it..

I'm not trying to be a dick either, but from occasionally glancing at this thread it seems to me that half the attraction is "hotrodding" the hardware.

quote Originally posted by TheDigitalAlchemist: I only know one person who uses this sorta stuff...

That's one more than I know. I've never seen any of this stuff in real life.

quote Originally posted by TheDigitalAlchemist: Can you explain what the point of this stuff is? A "safer" way to get nicotine(minus the hundreds of nasty other chemicals) into your body? Not trying to be a d1ck... just don't understand it...I only know one person who uses this sorta stuff... Thanks

No problem TDA.

Yes, it is a safer alternative to smoking. The juice "usually", and I say usually because I don't know what foreign companies or the commercial manufacturers like Blu do here, use 4-5 ingredients in the juice. At least that's all that's used in the juices I buy. They contain Vegetable Glycerin, Polypropylene Glycol, flavoring, distilled water and Nicotine. All of the ingredients except the nicotine are food grade with the PG being a commonly used preservative. The juices I buy contain mostly VG with the flavoring and nicotine (mine are around 80% VG). Since there is no fire it's not smoke your inhaling it's a vapor created by the coils that heat the juice. So you don't end up with those 100's of other chemicals you get from smoking a cigarette which is where all the cancer causing stuff is. That's not to say the juice might not have carcinogens in it. The juices with a custard or milk or butter (etc) can have a carcinogen in them but the amount is vastly lower than a regular cigarette. Other juices contain none and I stick to mostly fruit flavors avoiding anything "milk" based.

Some say it's a great way to "quit" smoking. I think it's more a way to quit the 100's of cancer causing chemicals, more a replacement to smoking. Like I said though, I don't know what other companies or countries allow in their juice. There is a study going around that claims the juice is just as bad according to the tests... that were done in China... With Chinese juices... Who knows what they let them put in it over there?

Patrick,

Yup! It can be as much a hobby as a way to not use cigarettes. "Can be" because it isn't that for everyone. I know a lot of people with their little eGo and that's good enough for them. I like to have fun with it and basically make money off of it so it pays for itself and then some. Also, it might not be well known in Canada yet? I know it's even more common over in England than it is here but I don't know what it's like in other countries. Funny thing though is we started using them and only saw a handful of people that had them when we did. Now we see them all the time. Maybe it's because when we see what they have hanging out of their pocket or in their hand, we know what it is?

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Thanks for the explanation.

Would love some way to get the sedative effects from a Clove cigarette without all the death and lung-murder connected with it...

quote Originally posted by Khw: Patrick... it might not be well known in Canada yet? I know it's even more common over in England than it is here but I don't know what it's like in other countries.

You'll have to trust me on this, but Canada isn't behind the times when it comes to... anything. However, I think it's more of a "west coast thing" not to see as much popularity with cigarettes, whether they be e-cigs or the original tobacco product. When I was in Toronto a couple months ago, I couldn't believe the number of people huddled in doorways outside to feed their addiction. It's just not as common a sight here, except for in the recently-immigrated Asian community.

quote Originally posted by TheDigitalAlchemist: Would love some way to get the sedative effects from a Clove cigarette without all the death and lung-murder connected with it...

Heh heh, way to kill the "glamour" of smoking TDA.

quote Originally posted by Patrick: Heh heh, way to kill the "glamour" of smoking TDA.

Sorry, back in the mid-90's, an occasional clove was a thing. Soooo enjoyable.

*sighs*

quote Originally posted by TheDigitalAlchemist: Sorry, back in the mid-90's, an occasional clove was a thing. Soooo enjoyable. *sighs*

Yup, one of my favorite cigarettes. I used to smoke them A LOT. I've tried a clove flavored tobacco juice before and just a clove juice. The clove flavored tobacco was pretty close but the straight clove was just to strong. I don't usually do tobacco flavors but on occasion I will pick up a small bottle of clove flavored tobacco. Really the flavor combinations you can get are really nice. One of my favorites is a mix of melons, peaches and berries. It has a nice fresh flavor that is slightly sweet and very unique. So in addition to losing the 100's of chemicals in tobacco smoke you gain such a wide array of flavors that taste way better than tobacco smoke ever did and that don't leave a nasty smell in your clothes or car (or home if you smoke there which I didn't but I did in our detached garage).

I m seeing vapers everywhere these days. I was very surprised how many I saw up at the Casino last month when I went to see the comedian Titus in Bow WA. A lot of younger people too doing it. Which to me is awesome, very glad they are taking this approach instead of smoking the coffin nails.

Heh, I suppose the Casino people were probably happily gambling away their saved cig money. I know I am saving quite a bit and LOVING IT. I have smoked a few cigarettes here and there over the last few months. But hey that about twelve cigarettes compared to over six thousand I did not

quote Originally posted by Khw: Yup, one of my favorite cigarettes. I used to smoke them A LOT. I've tried a clove flavored tobacco juice before and just a clove juice. The clove flavored tobacco was pretty close but the straight clove was just to strong. I don't usually do tobacco flavors but on occasion I will pick up a small bottle of clove flavored tobacco. Really the flavor combinations you can get are really nice. One of my favorites is a mix of melons, peaches and berries. It has a nice fresh flavor that is slightly sweet and very unique. So in addition to losing the 100's of chemicals in tobacco smoke you gain such a wide array of flavors that taste way better than tobacco smoke ever did and that don't leave a nasty smell in your clothes or car (or home if you smoke there which I didn't but I did in our detached garage).

I'll agree with you guys on the clove cigarettes. I tried the clove flavored juice as well, mixed with a flavor called churchill (very similar to Dunhill and other Euro cigarette blends) and got it almost 100% the same flavor as Djarum clove cigarettes (pre FDA, when they were actually 20 pack cigarettes. not 12 pack clove cigars)

My newest flavor is very similar Dave, honeydew peach mango in 6 mg Vapormates. If ya get a chance, I highly recommend trying it. The way Vapormates works is via juice bar. Their stuff only comes in 36mg or 0 mg nicotine. To mix 3 mg, you choose one of your flavors that you want and give 1 pump of 36mg and then diluite it down with your other flavors using the zero nicotine, Pretty cool setup and idea, and the flavors are fantastic

Here's on of my most recently made boxes. Right now I'm working on a couple of custom boxes. One themed from Who Framed Roger Rabbit, the other Iron Man.





This is a mock up for the Roger Rabbit one.



The Iron Man is going to look like the chest of his armor with a plastic difuser where his power core would be cut into the lid and a blue LED behind it that lights up when you press the firing button. That one I have just started on so it's just a naked box with the holes for the firing button and 510 connector drilled in it so far.

Went to go buy juice on Friday...Ended up walking out with 2 18650's, a doge dripper and 2 bottles of juice...Oh yeah, also bought a Lotus LE80

So how do you like it Kris? I'm guessing but since it's a LE80, is it a 80 watt mod? It looks really nice. Someday I think I'll post one of my just completed boxes on the local vaping FB pages and see what kind of regulated mods people would offer in trade for it. Over this last week I sold 3 of my completed and had 2 more ordered I was working on when I was considering posting the last finished one I had up for trade to find out. Just as I was about to create a post, I got a PM on FB and ended up selling that one about a half hour later. That guy said he'd let all his buddies know how to get in touch with me because he's pretty sure some of them will want one and he also imagines he maybe contacting me again soon because he thinks his GF will want one also. With the 2 I had in progress for custom builds I only have enough parts to make one more and it's iron man themed. I ended up ordering the parts to build 6 more last night and 6 others but those boxes are on back order looking tons shipped about May 15th. Which is perfect as I get back from Grand Cayman on the18th, so they will be here at the perfect time for me to start building more.

I'm surprised how quickly word of mouth is spreading on my boxes. Happy, but still surprised.

My latest creation.

I didnt realize your selling them....Whats the prices look like? I like the LE80 so far but im running my subtank rather than the dripper. You should shoot me a friend request!

quote Originally posted by 87antuzzi: I didnt realize your selling them....Whats the prices look like? I like the LE80 so far but im running my subtank rather than the dripper. You should shoot me a friend request!

The friend request on FB right? If so I just sent it .

I've been selling the dual purpose switchable configuration boxes for $120 basic 2 color marbled or $125 for same with a volt meter. A single purpose series or parallel I've been selling for $90 basic 2 color marbled or $95 for same with a volt meter. One like the Iron Man themed box I'd sell for $160 because the extra time it takes to do the paint and everything else like drilling for the lighted power core window and making the acrylic insert to go in there plus the LED and wiring for it etc. Basically, if yo want extra artwork or it themed in a certain way it costs a bit more because there's more time/parts/creativity going into it. However, for friends or people I've interacted with on basically what I would call a friend level (you and others here on the forum for instance) I'd make you all one for parts/shipping plus maybe $20 because it's still my time going into making them and getting all the parts for them, so about $50 for a dual purpose basic colors with volt meter or $45 for a single purpose same same. People I don't consider as "knowing" pay the full price unless referred to me by someone I "know", then I will knock $10 of the price for them. I have several colors on hand, but depending on what you want I may have to go get a color. I've been considering going to an auto parts store like Autozone and picking up some automotive color matching paint to see how they interact with the marbling and clear because there are just so many more colors and shades I can get that way also.

It takes me about 2 weeks to build one just in case I'm out of a part and need to order it in. Plus, I like to leave the boxes under a curing light for a couple of days so the clear is less likely to dimple if pressed on (also 24+ hours between base coat and marbling and then another 24 before clear goes on). Some designs might take me a bit longer depending on how many colors and how detailed it gets. I usually order in the stuff to make between 6 and 10 of them at a time, that way I can use the profit from a few to order in the parts for more.

Really, I've been kind of shocked at how many people on the FB groups for vaping here in Utah have promoted what I've sold them. I appreciate it immensely and it's got me several sales. I've sold a few on eBay and even a few outside of eBay where initial contact was made through eBay (a guy in Layton, the next city over from me, saw one I had up on eBay and sent me a message that eventually lead to him ordering a custom one that was picked up last week for example). I didn't plan to make as many as I have, figured a few here and there to sell to supplement income when we needed it, but I enjoy making them so I don't really mind. I think it's fun to come up with ideas and make them.

Only real problem is always finding the parts I need. I could use the Hammond box everyone else uses, but the switch wouldn't fit for the dual purpose and I don't want to use a smaller less amp switch that will burn out. So I found a box that is about 1/8th of an inch wider than the Hammond to fit the switch but it's also about 1/8th of an inch less in thickness than the Hammond. Being that it's not the Hammond box that everyone and their grandma seems to use to build them, there a bit harder to find. Thankfully between the 3 suppliers I've found for them, I can usually knock one out of staock at a time and by the time I get back around to them, they have them in stock again... so far...

In recap, It's fun and pays for itself plus some so as far as hobbies go, I like it .

Edit: Oh, and I've been working on a FB page so people can see some of my work. https://www.facebook.com/pa...=aymt_homepage_panel

[This message has been edited by Khw (edited 04-09-2015).]

Kind of vape related... Halloween is coming up and I usually decorate my porch with scarecrows and black lights and such. I've often wanted to get a fog machine to add a little more to it as dry ice is such a pain to keep adding. I did some reading and fog juice is usually a mix of, well Vegetable Glycerin and Distilled Water. I looked at a few homemade fog machines and some use a heated flat surface to drip the juice onto and vaporize it. I did however find a few that used a wicked coil of kanthal or nichrome, basically just a large e-cig. I have a couple of old ATX computer supplies out in the garage that deliver around 16 amps at 12 volts, 192 watts.

I started experimenting to see what I can do. I tried various sized coils and am going to try a few more but the last one I tried was doing rather well at vaporizing the fog juice. The only real problem with the current build is that the power supply fan pulls air from inside the box the juice is being vaporized in and expels it out through the power supply. I need to either reverse the direction the fan blows or separate the vape and the power supply portion of the box. If i allow it to continue to blow the fog through the power supply it will eventually short because the fog is moisture. I'm going to try a thicker gauge coil and a few different wicks once I get the power supply fan issue resolved. The current coil made of twisted 26 at roughly 1/4" diameter winds vaporizes the juice really well except if i open the box taking the fan that blows onto the coil away, the coil will catch the wick on fire. It can be easily blown out as the coil isn't very big, but I'd like to get one that will run cool enough that if the fan stops working for some reason, the coil won't catch on fire.

I'll take some pictures of it once I have it all worked out and functioning the way I want and post them up here so anyone who is interested can see what it looks like. I'll try to get some pictures of it working to .

This is it so far. It doesn't produce a low lying fog, but it will fog up a room pretty quickly at this point. I may try a few different VG/water ratios and see if i can get a denser fog that with a fog cooler will make a low rolling fog. If not it will still haze the porch on Halloween night as it is now. So between now and when I decorate, I have to figure a prop to have the fog come from.