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Dodgers found partly responsible in fan beating. by blackrams
Started on: 07-10-2014 07:18 AM
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Dodgers found partly responsible in fan beating
http://www.aol.com/article/...lnk2%26pLid%3D499443

LOS ANGELES (AP) -- A San Francisco Giants fan who suffered brain damage in a stadium parking lot beating won his negligence suit against the Los Angeles Dodgers on Wednesday, with a jury awarding about $18 million but dividing responsibility among the club and the two men who beat him.

Plaintiff's attorney Tom Girardi said the verdict means the Dodgers must pay about $14 million in economic losses and a portion of a separate sum for pain and suffering, which adds about $1 million more.

The jury delivered its verdict in a Los Angeles courtroom after weeks of testimony about the assault on Bryan Stow outside Dodger Stadium after the opening day game in 2011 between the rival teams.

Dave Stow said his brain-damaged son probably wouldn't understand the details if Wednesday's verdict.

"But Bryan will know that he got some help today," he said.

Lawyers for the 45-year-old Stow claimed the Dodgers and former owner Frank McCourt failed to provide adequate security at the stadium. The defense countered that security was stronger than ever at an opening day contest and Stow was partially to blame because he was drunk.

McCourt was absolved by the jury on Wednesday.

Dodger fans Louie Sanchez and Marvin Norwood pleaded guilty in the attack after a lengthy preliminary hearing in which witnesses said security guards were absent from the parking lot where Stow was attacked.

The jury's finding was "a lot better than what we had," Dave Stow said.

"He did get some money to help the future and that's what we wanted - we wanted help," he said. "He's not going to be 100 percent, maybe for a long time, maybe never. What he gets is going to help him through now, and that's what he needs."

"We'll make it work for him," mother Ann Stow agreed.

They said they had not spoken to their son, who did not attend the hearing, but did talk to his sisters and expected they would talk to him.

Stow's mother said she held her husband's hand as the court read the part of the verdict in which jurors found her son not liable for the attack. That verdict was unanimous, unlike the other two, in which jurors split over whether the Dodgers or McCourt were liable.

"I was so ecstatic because we know our son and we know that the picture the defense was trying to portray was not Bryan at all," Ann Stow said.

Girardi had asked for more than double the $18 million sum, but said he still considered it a victory.

Attorneys for the Dodgers and McCourt declined comment after court.

Dana Fox, the lawyer for the Dodgers and McCourt, argued that they bore no responsibility for the attack. In closing arguments, he showed jurors enlarged photos of Sanchez and Norwood and said they were responsible along with Stow himself.

Fox cited testimony that Stow's blood-alcohol level was .18 percent - more than twice the legal limit for driving - and a witness account of Stow yelling in the parking lot with his arms up in the air.

"There were three parties responsible - Sanchez, Norwood and, unfortunately, Stow himself. There were things Mr. Stow did that put these things in action," Fox said.

He added, "You don't get yourself this drunk and then say it's not your fault."

Girardi contended the team and McCourt had failed to provide enough security to keep Stow and other fans safe at the game.

"Dodger Stadium got to a place where it was a total mess," Girardi told jurors. "There was a culture of violence. Beer sales were off the charts."

He also said, "The only thing Bryan Stow was doing was wearing a jersey that said `Giants.'"

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I wasn't on the jury and didn't see or hear all of the evidence but, this makes me cringe. I sincerely hope this decision is appealed. No, I'm not a Giants or Dodgers fan either. No organization will ever have enough security to stop two bullies from being stupid. Those two bullies, the guys who inflicted the injury should be held totally responsible for their actions. This jury seems to want Big Brother protecting them. Attending an event such as this places anyone that attends at some risk. People should be responsible for their own actions, the event organizers are responsible for some things I agree but, what two attendees decide to do is not something the event organizers can control. Stand by for big changes at such events. Little League games, Soccer games, church socials, Fiero Clubs events need to provide adequate security to keep anyone that might walk in from beating someone else senseless.
This jury saw a deep pockets defendant and acted on it. Bad decision IMHO. I hope this gets overturned in an Appeals Court.

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Its all fun and games when alcohol is involved. Especially when it comes to lawsuits.

"Lawyers for the 45-year-old Stow claimed the Dodgers and former owner Frank McCourt failed to provide adequate security at the stadium. The defense countered that security was stronger than ever at an opening day contest and Stow was partially to blame because he was drunk."

Though the stadium sells liquor, are there signs saying do not get drunk? What is the security expectation? Yeah either ticket prices will go up for these type events or alcohol prices go up, or alcohol gets limited, (yeah right). Also though some people get drunk before they enter the stadium.

With multi million payouts I would bet the fraud crowd are making plans as we speak.
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Report this Post07-10-2014 08:52 AM Click Here to See the Profile for acemanSend a Private Message to acemanEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
$14 million is chump change to the Dodgers. Hell, every year, you'll see nearly every team cut and pay out 2-3 players that were making $5 million or more a year.
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It is not the amount, but that someone else can be held responsible for another's actions. I read this yesterday and it is sick that some drunk turds hurt someone, and another has to pay. ****ing lawyers!
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Deep pockets. That is what this is about. Also, I would think the "Dodgers" would have insurance to cover such things. Not that it makes it any better, just saying....

Were any criminal charges filed (I didn't check)?
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I'm not a Dodgers fan even though I live nearby but I have heard the Dodgers allowed their park to get totally out of control where you couldn't bring your young son, or girlfriend or family there. Drunk gang members and thugs, lowlifes everywhere shouting the F word, throwing things, and threatening anybody.
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Heck who needs criminal charges when they get a HUGE paycheck?

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Originally posted by V8 Vega:

I'm not a Dodgers fan even though I live nearby but I have heard the Dodgers allowed their park to get totally out of control where you couldn't bring your young son, or girlfriend or family there. Drunk gang members and thugs, lowlifes everywhere shouting the F word, throwing things, and threatening anybody.


I guess the jury agreed. I have no idea about the security, but there must have been some evidence to support that, or one really good lawyer!

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Originally posted by V8 Vega:

I'm not a Dodgers fan even though I live nearby but I have heard the Dodgers allowed their park to get totally out of control where you couldn't bring your young son, or girlfriend or family there. Drunk gang members and thugs, lowlifes everywhere shouting the F word, throwing things, and threatening anybody.


Could be true, don't know but, I do know that I don't have to go to Dodger Stadium if I don't like what's going on there. Heck, I don't like go to parts of Lexington, Louisville, Detroit and Memphis. I suppose I could go to a city park in one of those cities, make a fool of myself one way or another and get beat up, hopefully survive and then sue the city and police for failing to protect me.

Or, I could come to some forum member's home for a FIero event, get run over by traffic in the driveway and sue the owner of the property for failure to have adequate parking, traffic control and security. Not sure who's hosting the next Fiero gathering but, be prepared.

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Isn't it strange that after a bombing, everyone blames the bomber, his upbringing, his environment, his culture, his mental state but … after a shooting, the problem is the gun?

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Originally posted by blackrams:

Could be true, don't know but, I do know that I don't have to go to Dodger Stadium if I don't like what's going on there.



The only thing about that is its technically a private business isnt it? Yet when they build stadiums taxes go up to pay for it. I wouldnt be happy if I couldnt even safely go to see the sporting event after having paid to build their place. (Not saying much about what could ot couldnt have happened in this particular case)
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Originally posted by 2.5:


The only thing about that is its technically a private business isnt it? Yet when they build stadiums taxes go up to pay for it. I wouldnt be happy if I couldnt even safely go to see the sporting event after having paid to build their place. (Not saying much about what could ot couldnt have happened in this particular case)


Understood but, you omitted or avoided the most important part.

 
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Or, I could come to some forum member's home for a FIero event, get run over by traffic in the driveway and sue the owner of the property for failure to have adequate parking, traffic control and security. Not sure who's hosting the next Fiero gathering but, be prepared.



I really don't care about the Dodgers, Giants or any other Professional Sports team or complex/team owner but, this jury verdict basically says if you throw a party/event and some dumbass gets drunk and makes a fool of himself, two of your friends decide to kick his butt (all unbeknownst to you), you're at fault and will pay. I can't wait for the next Red River Ruckus, my understanding is Texans are loaded.

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Isn't it strange that after a bombing, everyone blames the bomber, his upbringing, his environment, his culture, his mental state but … after a shooting, the problem is the gun?

My Uncle Frank was a staunch Conservative and voted straight Republican until the day he died in Chicago. Since then he has voted Democrat. Shrug

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