This is bothering me. How does a HDD know its going to fail?? I also have a strange windows message that comes up now and then that states generally the same thing. I'm suspecting a worm. Any comments?
This is bothering me. How does a HDD know its going to fail?? I also have a strange windows message that comes up now and then that states generally the same thing. I'm suspecting a worm. Any comments?
Do you have a specific reason to think it's a worm and not what the SMART monitor is telling you? I wouldn't worry too much about it if you have everything backed up onto another drive. If/when it fails, swap out the drive and restore from backup.
I vote for SMART as well. Time to back up and get another drive, always cheaper than recovery
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I'd either go for a SSD, or buy a new HDD + a HDD Duplicator/external dock. Plug in both drives, push a button, the dying drive is cloned. no muss, no fuss.
Do you have a specific reason to think it's a worm and not what the SMART monitor is telling you? I wouldn't worry too much about it if you have everything backed up onto another drive. If/when it fails, swap out the drive and restore from backup.
Newer tech is starting to pass me buy I guess. Still adapting to a new operating system. This computer is a little over a year old. My GF daughters use this every now and then and you know how that could go. Antivirus is up to date and I ran a boot time scan. Everything checks out ok.
These pics are the windows dialog boxes. First is the actual window, second is it's properties. Why does the window dialog have another "x" in the upper left? Not familiar with that.
Originally posted by Jason88Notchie: Why does the window dialog have another "x" in the upper left? Not familiar with that.
That's the icon for a critical alert. It's to get you to pay attention. A warning would have a yellow exclamation mark. Both Windows and the SMART HDD BIOS have detected a problem. Your next warning will be when the drive stops working. Turn the PC off and don't use it until you've backed up the hard drive. You do make regular backups, right?
If not, here's a way to think about it. You have a file cabinet full of important papers and some not so important. You've just tossed a match into the drawer. How long do you want to wait to see if it catches fire and which papers burn first?
I'd either go for a SSD, or buy a new HDD + a HDD Duplicator/external dock. Plug in both drives, push a button, the dying drive is cloned. no muss, no fuss.
Could something like this help me recover data from my HDD from my old computer? Im not sure if it is still operational, though. Sorry to hijack
No hijack. Good question. I took the pc down for now so I can do a backup. I may get the tool that digital suggested. And I found posting on the phone is much smoother. I wonder if they came out with usb keyboard drivers yet for the xb1...
The current SSD technology has already been proven to have no future.
Ya, right. Not saying they are the end of all to be all for all use-cases and are not without issues, but if you believe this, i have a bridge to sell you.
Thanks guys, got it up and running. My brother ghosted the drive on his server to another and I'm up and running. Thanks again for all your help. Am I paranoid though suspecting this stuff off the bat??
It's not paranoia. Hard drives fail. It's not a matter of if, but when. It may last 10 years, or 10 days. If there's anything you don't want to lose on it, have a backup. If it's actually important, have multiple backups - preferably with one of them off site (friend's house, safety deposit box, etc.).
Reloading an OS is no big deal. Losing all your digital photos and vacation videos, or all of the graphics design work you do for a living, etc. can be a BIG deal. Just remind yourself that anything you only have 1 copy of is something you don't mind losing.
Originally posted by Boondawg: No moving parts......it's like a dream-come-true!
Think so? SSD can and will die. Unlike Normal HD and SMART, often gives NO warning to backup as top post in this thread.
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Originally posted by User00013170: Lets see you buy a single 3TB SSD for your desktop... Also, they still 'wear out', each bit can only take so many cycles.
You can get 2-3GB under $100. Makers now offer 4-8GB too.
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Originally posted by tshark: The current SSD technology has already been proven to have no future. The error count on high-capacity SSDs is rather high, speeds slow down, etc. The new technology will have to be better thought out. They're doing arrays of chips to get around the errors, but that presents its own issues.
It seems that SATA drives have a higher rate of failure than the PATA drives. I have MFM & RLL drives from the 80s that still run, but SATA drives usually die in a few years. Perhaps it's a capacity issue.
Is part of current Flash media. As User00013170 says "they still 'wear out', each bit can only take so many cycles." Main issue/problem is free space on SSD Is Not the same as free space on HD. HD can write to same sectors Billions of times and free space is just that... Free space the HD doesn't use. SSD uses ALL free space to reduce write cycles to each cell. Means an SSD that's Tight on free space then SSD performance and even lifetime suffers. TRIM etc only delays performance issues.
SATA/PATA/etc is wrong comparison... Problem is RoHS and Manufacturers saving even <1 penny per unit to make current models. RoHS to avoid lead issues can cause "Tin Whiskers" etc. SSD has RoHS problems too but many/most SSD have more solder joints close together. Old MFM/RLL and even most PATA where made before RoHS and used lead solder etc. Pennies/unit x millions of units made = Big Money. Try not to buy low end models... Example WD Blue have short warranty for a reason.
HD/SSD will last longest when Run Temp is kept low, < ~110°F. Many RoHS solders with break joints because can't take heat/cold cycling. SMART does report current Drive Temp. Use PC Wizzard etc to see SMART values and Drive Temp. (Some OE's block SMART and MoBo reporting software. HP and Dell are known for this.)
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SATA drives suck (imo). I'm not sure if it's because of lack of quality in assembly (bad solder spots on the PCB) or because the drive storage size & speeds are so high that they are over worked, but I never saw the amount of failures for IDE drives (in laptops & desktops) that I have seen for SATA.
My first dell laptop lasted me 10 years, & I gave it to a friend in working condition. We get laptops in our shop that are less than a year old with clicking/failing hard drives.
This computer is similar to a laptop. It even had the small form factor HD. It's an HP "All in One" with the smart touch screen. And it just fell out of warranty. Go figure. But good thing is the bracket could be adjusted to take a standard HD. That was the only thing good about it.
