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40 IDF intel members say Enough is Enough--we will do it NO MORE! NSA listening?? by maryjane
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http://www.abc.net.au/news/...palestinians/5741492

A group of 40 current and reserve Israeli Defense Force members of Unit 8200 have sent a letter to the Israeli prime minister, the IDF chief of staff and head of military intelligence.
Unit 8200 is often compared to the United States National Security Agency. It uses sophisticated technology to monitor the lives of Palestinians, gathering information which is then used by Israel's military. It also carries out surveillance overseas.

In response to the lengthy Testimonials (available at link above) the Israeli govt said:
"The Intelligence Corps has no record that the specific violations in the letter ever took place."


Sound familiar? ]

A few examples of the lengthy letter:

 
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"What I'm doing is not helping the security of Israel in the long run," said one former first sergeant.

"It's only helping to continue the circle of violence and deepening the Israeli hold of Palestinian territories and population."

One female Sergeant said she felt compelled to join the protest.

"I feel that it's my obligation, in a sense, to do something about it – to make a stand and say, 'This is what we've been doing'," she said.

"I don't feel comfortable with it at all."

"The notion of rights for Palestinians does not exist at all, not even as an idea to be disregarded," one witness statement said.

"Any Palestinian may be targeted and may suffer from sanctions, such as the denial of permits, harassment, extortion, or even direct physical injury."

"Whenever I raised doubts or questions about the morality of things we were doing, I was always told, 'Everything is OK, we are not doing anything wrong – we are simply gathering information, there is nothing wrong with it, we are not hurting anyone'.

"I knew that, of course, this isn't true."




http://www.business-standar...-114091300308_1.html

http://www.latimes.com/worl...-20140912-story.html

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Originally posted by maryjane:
Sound familiar ?

Edward Snowden ?
(Sorry, I did not look at the link.)
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Originally posted by maryjane:



Could 'ya find an illustration where the football did not sail so high over my head, and where the "whiffff" is not so loud ? Though you did underline a clue, the letter writer's motivations also sound familiar to Snowdens'.
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no one is going to stop anything.
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Originally posted by User00013170:

no one is going to stop anything.


It really is best this way.

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Report this Post09-13-2014 12:52 PM Click Here to See the Profile for maryjaneSend a Private Message to maryjaneEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
I agree Pokey--it has to get a whole lot worse before it will get better, and if the govt backs off much now, the public will just go on about it's business placated--yet again. "We" are nowhere yet at our limit. When it reaches the point that looking back on "today" appears to be 'the good ol days' then we'll be close.

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