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Fracking causing earthquakes? by Csjag
Started on: 01-07-2015 07:23 AM
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Report this Post01-12-2015 04:28 PM Click Here to See the Profile for maryjaneSend a Private Message to maryjaneEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by rogergarrison:

So If I understand, there is no where on earth that hasn't had an earthquake in the last 100 years.....? Now, that is hilarious. In 60 years, and all around the country ive never felt one, except for the one time that was 1000 miles from any fracking.


Who said that was the case?
Please point out the post/reply that said that.
(not a rhetorical question)

(But, earthquakes do happen very often that are never felt by humans--instrumentation used in detection and early warning is much more sensitive than people are)
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Report this Post01-12-2015 04:33 PM Click Here to See the Profile for rogergarrisonSend a Private Message to rogergarrisonEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Simple answer. I said Id accept somewhere that didn't have one in last 100 years to prove fracking causes quakes. You said it was hilarious that there isn't anywhere on earth.
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Report this Post01-12-2015 04:51 PM Click Here to See the Profile for maryjaneSend a Private Message to maryjaneEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
I said that when you had stated "ever".
You added the '100 years' thing in a subsequent post.

In other words, no one said it or implied it--you just pulled that statement out of thin air.

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Report this Post01-12-2015 06:41 PM Click Here to See the Profile for theBDubSend a Private Message to theBDubEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Like I said:

 
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I'm done here.


I feel like I'm arguing with children. Over it.
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Report this Post01-12-2015 07:18 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Marvin McInnisClick Here to visit Marvin McInnis's HomePageSend a Private Message to Marvin McInnisEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
Back to the original topic ... Last year (2014) Oklahoma recorded 567 earthquakes with magnitude 3 or higher ... more than any other state in the continental 48, and more than recorded in Oklahoma in all of the previous 30 years combined. Even people in the oil and gas industry ... which pretty much owns Oklahoma ... agree that fracking is probably a significant contributor to the recent swarm of earthquakes.

Perhaps of more concern is the long-term effects of many small earthquakes in a short time period. It is well known that many small earthquakes tend to relieve stress in a fault zone, and thus may beneficially delay or prevent larger quakes. But there is also some concern that small quakes just relieve stress locally, and then send the problem "down the line" to another fault zone where stresses will again accumulate.

See:
Tulsa World
Oklahoma Geological Survey
U.S. Geological Survey

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So there is a good chance the continents will someday slide back together?
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So there is a good chance the continents will someday slide back together?

Yep, and Roger's gonna be really PO'd to wake up one morning and find his next door neighbor is a Liberian or Sierra Leonian--where all the ebola is.



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So there is a good chance the continents will someday slide back together?



Possibly. I have it on good authority (a radio astronomer friend) that the northeastern U.S. is inexorably moving toward Sweden at ~2cm a year. They are measuring it daily.

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Report this Post01-14-2015 02:39 PM Click Here to See the Profile for maryjaneSend a Private Message to maryjaneEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
So, at that rate of travel, how long will it take Marvin?

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Report this Post01-14-2015 02:48 PM Click Here to See the Profile for heybjornSend a Private Message to heybjornEdit/Delete MessageReply w/QuoteDirect Link to This Post
New York City to Goteborg Sweden is 3781 miles or 6085 kilometers. I'll let you do the math, mj.

Nevermind. 304,250,000 years. can you wait?

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I reckon so--I done waited this long...
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Originally posted by maryjane:

So, at that rate of travel, how long will it take Marvin?





Suffice to say ... they'll all be well past the "drooping granny" stage by then.


 
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... 304,250,000 years ...



Thanks. I'll take your word for it.


 
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I reckon so--I done waited this long...



Yeah ... A 50-year age difference doesn't mean much when you're 304,250,000 (plus or minus).

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