Originally posted by sardonyx247: Religion and/or politics should NOT be tolerated on a car forum, (as most other car/any forums don't). If you want help with your PC, find a computer forum, if you need help with your kids, find a family forum, but keep a car forum to cars. Last thing I or other want, is to look up Fiero info and find a detailed prostate exam. But Religion and/or politics, people WILL ALWAYS fight. Get rid of it.
Do you have a problem with the US Constitution ? Specifically freedom of speech and the right to free assembly ?
I have seem many a fisticuffs in Tech. V8 or 3800SC ? Many others.
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Originally posted by sardonyx247: If you want help with your PC, find a computer forum, if you need help with your kids, find a family forum, but keep a car forum to cars. Last thing I or other want, is to look up Fiero info and find a detailed prostate exam.
I need to add a comment. Why do we need to find so many different forums and create/remember passwords ? Here, I can get help with my computer, my dishwasher, my lawnmower, my hone HVAC system, I have seen people here asking for help with their Rustangs Ford Mustangs (joking on rustang). Many say this forum is the most helpful and knowledgable forum on the planet.
I have went round and round with jaskispyder here in T/OT. Often and contentionuously. Yet I pop into Tech seeking help and he is almost the first to pop in and give good advice.
Yes we fight but we also love. Perhaps we love to fight, ? Cliff is making no money off our misery. No one looks at a slow train wreck. No one rubber necks a highway accident, and we don't watch racing to not see a wreck.
When discussing politics, religion and social values OF COURSE there is gonna be fights, that WHY ya get into those discussions for in the 1st place !! What are ya, NEW ?
When discussing politics, religion and social values OF COURSE there is gonna be fights,...
No, it doesn't have to be that way.
An intellectual mind can consider many ideas (theory's, beliefs, opinions, etc.) without adding emotion into it. Insults & name calling have no place in an exchange between two rational adults engaging in verbal intercourse. It is the signature of a weak mind.
If in doubt of the validity of the above concept, the next time you type a personal insult to someone, erase it, and simply type "I disagree". Amazing.
An intellectual mind can consider many ideas (theory's, beliefs, opinions, etc.) without adding emotion into it. Insults & name calling have no place in an exchange between two rational adults engaging in verbal intercourse. It is the signature of a weak mind.
If in doubt of the validity of the above concept, the next time you type a personal insult to someone, erase it, and simply type "I disagree". Amazing.
I'll agree, did you ever give James (Jazzman) that insight? If so, he most surely didn't accept it.
------------------ Ron
Isn't it strange that after a bombing, everyone blames the bomber, his upbringing, his environment, his culture, his mental state but … after a shooting, the problem is the gun.... Open your frigg'n minds, think about all the other tools that can be made into WMDs.
I sincerely hope that life is never discovered on another planet because, sure as hell Progressives and Socialists will want to send them money.
An intellectual mind can consider many ideas (theory's, beliefs, opinions, etc.) without adding emotion into it. Insults & name calling have no place in an exchange between two rational adults engaging in verbal intercourse. It is the signature of a weak mind.
If in doubt of the validity of the above concept, the next time you type a personal insult to someone, erase it, and simply type "I disagree". Amazing.
Socrates tried to do just that. But was imprisoned and then poisoned to death as a sentence of his trial for speaking of such things as an intellectual in an intellectual way.
By accident, I stumbled across this old thread from three years ago that I'd never seen before. Must've occurred during one of my sabbaticals from O/T.
Anyway, it's a slow news day, so I was just wondering...
By accident, I stumbled across this old thread from three years ago that I'd never seen before. Must've occurred during one of my sabbaticals from O/T.
Anyway, it's a slow news day, so I was just wondering...
Who the heck was it?
It was not me. I am being proactive here, because I have been accused of being that person. I will leave it to your imagination (Patrick) as to who it was that accused me of being that person.
I did use that Report This Post function, but I never approached those kinds of numbers with it. Not by an order (maybe two orders) of magnitude. If or when you see someone show up here and say otherwise, you can be confident--to the extent that you would take my word--that it was not me.
I had three guesses, my first guess was Furgal and I alluded to that on the first page, which coincidentally, smoked him right out. The other two are still here.
This thread was not a bright spot in the annals of PFF Totally O/T.
Cliff Cliff, they are being mean to me. Somebody said blue is an evil color for crayons and now I need a safe space to cry in. And play-douh. And coloring book.
I had three guesses, my first guess was Furgal and I alluded to that on the first page, which coincidentally, smoked him right out.
I couldn't follow what the heck Furgal was trying to prove in that weird exchange between the two of you... although this was par for the course with that guy.
I couldn't follow what the heck Furgal was trying to prove in that weird exchange between the two of you... although this was par for the course with that guy.
Furgal, much like another member here (who also happens to be my second guess), was always trying to cast aspersions on my character. The origins of that particular exchange are in this thread: https://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum6/HTML/119885.html
This guy reported every single post he did not agree with. Of from people he did not agree with in other threads. If you report over 10,000 posts, you have some serious issues. Here are a few examples of posts he reported:
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Originally posted by rogergarrison:
I prefer a human cashier, but I will use a self checkout for a few items...depending on the store. KMart for example, a lot of times the cashier gets sale prices wrong because theyre not entered properly...much less the computerized one. You cant argue with the computer.
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Originally posted by cliffw:
What is so hard to understand about that, ? Carrier has a plant there, already. Carrier had entered into an agreement with the Mexican regime. With legal liabilities, as well as financial ones.
Gee, go figure. They couldn't bring back all the jobs. They will though. As soon as they can, provided the "Trump Tax Triumph" happens along with "Trump Realistic Regulatory Reforms".
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Originally posted by blackrams:
Steve, I'm not real sure how you came to your conclusion that he was protecting the flag but, I surely don't see it that way. He authorized lowering the flag to half staff due to election results he and the school apparently didn't like, at least that's the way I read it. Unacceptable in my view. I've found no information as to who actually burnt the flag, cowards always do their deeds in the dark or behind closed doors. This is going to be an interesting four years..............
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Originally posted by GTGeff:
Yes, he even reported a post with a single thumbs-up smiley.
Yes, he even reported a post with a single thumbs-up smiley.
That one's perfectly understandable. The thumbs up guy only has 3 fingers. Obviously, this is some sort of birth defect and GTJeff (or whomever it was) was making fun of that. I think he should be banned or at least drawn and quartered.
Originally posted by maryjane: So, to narrow down the pieces of the puzzle............
Cliff Pennock says he reported my post (above). Only three people in that thread are banned. E Furgal, Dobey, and Tony Kania. Kania was of the same opinion as I so it wasn't him.
Cliff Pennock says he reported my post (above). Only three people in that thread are banned. E Furgal, Dobey, and Tony Kania. Kania was of the same opinion as I so it wasn't him.
Since when does a member need to post in a thread before he can report it?
The first sentence of Cliff's first post says, "There's a certain member here, who resides in TO/T mostly, who keeps reporting posts "he doesn't like". I don't think ITR SOL posted here very often.
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Originally posted by cliffw:
Cliff Pennock says he reported my post (above). Only three people in that thread are banned. E Furgal, Dobey, and Tony Kania. Kania was of the same opinion as I so it wasn't him.
Dobey was banned before this thread and Furgal and Tony were banned just a few months ago.
Keel (furgal wearing a dress) was banned six months after this thread. (Jan 2018)
I can't think of anyone else who was banned in that time frame.
Originally posted by Patrick: Since when does a member need to post in a thread before he can report it?
He doesn't need to post. We know he reported my post and we know he is banned. There for we are looking for someone we know read my post and is banned. I did not say it was either of them. I am just presenting pieces of the puzzle.
I don't think ITR SOL posted here (O/T) very often.
I suspect the member known as ITR SOL possibly posted in O/T under another name... which may or may not fit Cliff's hints/criteria. I had commented Here to ITR SOL that he seemed awfully familiar with forum members for someone who (at that time) had only registered (as ITR SOL) two months previously.
I want you all to know, I've reported this entire post/thread to Cliff Pennock. Discussing Off-Topic discussions has no business being in Totally O/T.
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Originally posted by Cliff Pennock: Yes, he even reported a post with a single thumbs-up smiley.
Of the four referenced, I found that one to be the most offense to me as well. What does he think he's doing giving me a thumbs up. He doesn't know me, he doesn't know who I am and how I'm feeling. Who is he to give me such a sign and assume my emotional state without first getting permission?
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I don't think I even remember ITR SOL in OT at all.
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Originally posted by williegoat:
I don't really remember him, either. I remember the name, but he made no lasting impression.
If you've got time to kill, you're all in This thread. ITR SOL wasn't around long enough to make much of an impression before he got the ban hammer. I'll give him credit though for standing up against stacked odds. Interesting that four participants in that thread have all eventually been sent packing.
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What are ya, NEW ? 
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But no, I can't see you resorting to those steps.
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