Trump Administration is going to announce that the capital of Israel is Jerusalem, a stand that everyone is against because they are afraid of destructive and violent backlash from Muslims.
The Muslim community has a announced a "Day of Rage" of violence against non-Muslims because the USA announcement and their move of the US Embassy in Israel from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem.
This is a move that some leaders in Europe, all leaders of the Arab World and the Democratic Party is opposing. They said it is better to appease them and that this will derail the peace process that has been going on since late 1940's (long, long time).
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Originally posted by Wichita: ... a stand that everyone is against because they are afraid of destructive and violent backlash from Muslims.
The Muslim community has a announced a "Day of Rage" of violence against non-Muslims because the USA announcement and their move of the US Embassy in Israel from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem.
This is a move that some leaders in Europe, all leaders of the Arab World and the Democratic Party is opposing. They said it is better to appease them and that this will derail the peace process that has been going on since late 1940's (long, long time).
Appease them, ? frack them ! You can never appease a radical Muslim, nor a dumbocrat. They always want more. Why should the Muslims care ? It's not their country, nor that of the Palestinians. The Palestinians have no country and never have had one.
Derail a peace process that has been going on for a long long time, ? Derail something that has never worked ? The Palestinians have broken every promise of peace agreements. They don't want peace, lets give them none.
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Originally posted by Hudini:
You have to wonder why we would poke that hornets nest. What is our payoff?
Do we need a payoff ? Israel is our best friends in that volatile region of the Earth which has never had peace nor prosperity. Israel's example of democracy should be envied throughout the Middle East. I believe it is and the hatred of the Jews is proof.
Muslims are going to kill non Muslims ? Tell me something new. Muslims do not much mind killing other Muslims.
What is that phase ? "Give them an inch and they will take a mile." I say take away a mile and they will be happy with an inch.
The capital of Israel is Jerusalem. It is only right that we acknowledge that fact. What would you say if other countries decided to move their embassies to Pittsburgh?
Appeasement doesn't work. It is pretty obvious in the Middle East that it doesn't. How long have we been under the illusion that we (the US) can broker a peace between Israel and the rest of the Middle East, 50 years, 75 years? The only way there will actually be peace is for Israel to completely defeat those who are its enemies. Complete and utter destruction and complete surrender. Just like we did to Japan and Germany in WWII. Trying to find a middle road leads to continuous low level war with brief interruptions of actual war. As per the MIddle East and the Korean Penninsula and as per WWI.
The capital of Israel is Jerusalem. It is only right that we acknowledge that fact. What would you say if other countries decided to move their embassies to Pittsburgh?
"The U.S. would be the first country to move its embassy to Jerusalem, which is claimed by both Israelis and Palestinians. Other countries who have diplomatic relations with Israel keep their embassies in Tel Aviv. But the embassy move would not be immediate and could take at least three or four years." http://www.foxnews.com/poli...us-embassy-move.html
Interesitng though from the same article: "The controversy surrounding the move of the embassy dates back decades. A law passed in 1995 under the Clinton administration considers Jerusalem the capital, and even mandates the move of the embassy there. But the law allows for a loophole used by former Presidents Bill Clinton, George W. Bush and Barack Obama – an option to issue waivers every six months to delay the move from Tel Aviv."
...almost like a ticking clock being held still...
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Israel has long called it their capital already...Trump is just acknowledging it...like no other president had the guts to. Israel is the ONLY real true US ally in the region. Screw the muslims and islamists. Palestinians have no say in anything, they are not even a recognized country and only in the area because Israel lets them be there. They are basically just like the illegal mexicans are to the US. Israel could kick them out anytime they wanted...just like they kicked out Egypt when they tried moving in.
President Trump and the Republican partisans get two things out of this announcement:
More Evangelical Christian enthusiasm for Trump/Republicans, and especially Roy Moore. This is the Trump/GOP political calculus, and it's for the benefit of Republican campaign strategists, election candidates and keynote speakers, who will try to gain electoral yardage with this announcement. It will be more popular among American EC's than among Jewish Americans.
Approval from certain large Republican donors, starting with Sheldon Adelson. It's their take on how the U.S. should position itself with respect to Israel and Palestinians.
NYT columnist Tom Friedman "Trump gave away the Crown Jewel of U.S. Mideast Strategy... in exchange for nothing."
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President Trump and the Republican partisans get two things out of this announcement:
More Evangelical Christian enthusiasm for Trump/Republicans, and especially Roy Moore. This is the Trump/GOP political calculus, and it's for the benefit of Republican campaign strategists, election candidates and keynote speakers, who will try to gain electoral yardage with this announcement. It will be more popular among American EC's than among Jewish Americans.
Approval from certain large Republican donors, starting with Sheldon Adelson. It's their take on how the U.S. should position itself with respect to Israel and Palestinians.
NYT columnist Tom Friedman "Trump gave away the Crown Jewel of U.S. Mideast Strategy... in exchange for nothing."
From what Ive seen this weekend, Israel has been showing the Palestinian occupiers whos boss. theyve been beating heads not their lips. From beating protestors with clubs to planes bombing hamas hangouts.
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President Trump and the Republican partisans get two things out of this announcement:
More Evangelical Christian enthusiasm for Trump/Republicans, and especially Roy Moore. This is the Trump/GOP political calculus, and it's for the benefit of Republican campaign strategists, election candidates and keynote speakers, who will try to gain electoral yardage with this announcement. It will be more popular among American EC's than among Jewish Americans.
Approval from certain large Republican donors, starting with Sheldon Adelson. It's their take on how the U.S. should position itself with respect to Israel and Palestinians.
NYT columnist Tom Friedman "Trump gave away the Crown Jewel of U.S. Mideast Strategy... in exchange for nothing."
When you get it wrong, you go all out. You flubbed it Flubber. Is it ok if I call you Flubber ?
Your man whore, President Clinton was the first one who recognized Jerusalem as the Capital of Israel. He threatend to move the US Embassy to Jerusalem. As did President George W Bush, and Nobama. Congress even voted to do the same.
It never happened. Why not ? Their panties were in a wad.
What is the problem ? Did you know ... that the Palestinians were outcasts from their own countries ?
? frack them ! You can never appease a radical Muslim, nor a dumbocrat. They always want more.
