He wasnt about law, he was about being a cruel sadistic bastard getting his jollies humiliating and torturing whoever he could whenever he could and however he could.
good riddance.
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Different folks have different perspectives of him. One thing I know, if you got caught breaking the law in his jurisdiction, you didn't want to get caught in his county again. Humans resist behavior changes unless motivated. He provided motivation.
Different folks have different perspectives of him. One thing I know, if you got caught breaking the law in his jurisdiction, you didn't want to get caught in his county again. Humans resist behavior changes unless motivated. He provided motivation.
Rams
Pink underwear is not sadistic. Eating peanut butter for 2 meals is not sadistic. Working for your keep is not sadistic. Sleeping in cramped housing is not sadistic.
I did all of those things in the Navy, the pink underwear only happened once and it was my fault. ****ing red socks.
He wasnt about law, he was about being a cruel sadistic bastard getting his jollies humiliating and torturing whoever he could whenever he could and however he could.
good riddance.
I love him and his style. Dumb a$$e$ are to stupid to know crime should not pay. Without him, criminals will now be treated better than the law abiding citizens. Crime should NEVER pay, or in other words law abiding citizens should never pay or buy off criminals.
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Emotion. Or as previously referenced here, "snowflake".
Which is silly. Everything "Human" is emotional. Unless you're not...
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Originally posted by Rickady88GT: Without him, criminals will now be treated better than the law abiding citizens.
Sez something about having to go to prison to get "basic*" human rights, don't it?
*So I hear from young idealistic (socialist?) people who have yet to realize that capitalistically, it's easier to just blend in. Personally, I was brought-up under the capital-idea of "no guarantees". If you ain't got the "skills" (cash, knife, i.e. a way to deal with it), you die.
Idealistically, I would like to see Homo-sapiens progress to a place where the wellbeing of our fellow man extends beyond the teeth-gnashing of WHO'S kitty the cash is coming out of. But that's just me.
My azz is silly that way.
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ESPECIALLY speech ones. I've had more than my share of cop-run-ins over it, and I still ain't using pronouns, and will still say what the hell I please. frack the laws and screw (actually, no) the offended.
PLUS, I have a real problem with authority. I don't play well with it and don't take kindly to MY rights being trampled just because some jackass wants to prove he is in charge.
NO, he aint. I am. They are MY rights, not his, and that puts ME at the top of the food chain.
ESPECIALLY speech ones. I've had more than my share of cop-run-ins over it, and I still ain't using pronouns, and will still say what the hell I please. frack the laws and screw (actually, no) the offended.
PLUS, I have a real problem with authority. I don't play well with it and don't take kindly to MY rights being trampled just because some jackass wants to prove he is in charge.
NO, he aint. I am. They are MY rights, not his, and that puts ME at the top of the food chain.
You have a problem with laws and you blame the LEOs? Enforcing laws that others make is what they do, they don't make the laws. You have a problem with authority and you blame others? I know several LEOs and they will bend over backwards to avoid being assholes until someone makes them. That doesn't mean they are angels but, no one is perfect. I could be wrong but, my rights only go so far as to where your rights begin, just as your rights end where mine start. When everyone else is the problem, one might want to look in the mirror to see what they see.
Just a few thoughts, consider what you will.
Rams
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Originally posted by blackrams: I could be wrong but, my rights only go so far as to where your right begin, just as your rights end where mine start. When everyone else is the problem, one might want to look in the mirror to see what they see.
Just a few thoughts, consider what you will.
Rams
I love your brain. Always have.
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You have a problem with laws and you blame the LEOs? Enforcing laws that others make is what they do, they don't make the laws. You have a problem with authority and you blame others? I know several LEOs and they will bend over backwards to avoid being assholes until someone makes them. That doesn't mean they are angels but, no one is perfect.
How many "laws" that trample YOUR rights are you willing to tolerate ? Are you going to wait until the Muslims have Shira "Law" patrols enforcing THAT crap because its "law" (already doing it in some places.) ? Are you going to have a problem with "S-LEO's" or are you going to shut up and comply with MOO-hamids "law" ?
There are REASONS we have constitutions and bills of rights. They are to PREVENT "laws" that violate basic freedoms. Just as in the UCMJ illegal orders are null and void, and in civil law illegal contracts are null and void, so are unconstitutional laws.
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I could be wrong but, my rights only go so far as to where your rights begin, just as your rights end where mine start. When everyone else is the problem, one might want to look in the mirror to see what they see.
Therein is the big question. Where is the line between my right to say vs. your right not to hear ? And in the mirror I see a miserable old fart still stuck in 80's and 90's humor (Think Larry the Cable Guy, Ron White, Dice-CLay, Joe Dolche) who proudly wears a reb flag, doesnt give a flying frack HOW offended guns make liberals, thinks there are only 2 genders and isn't afraid to say it and LOVES the Duke Boys---and has NOOOOOOO intention of plying nice with the progressives or their "laws"
Its ALSO one of the main reasons I love neighbor-free rural living. With nobody around, there ARE none of these silly little laws or anybody to get bent out of shape and complain when I offffeeennndddd them.
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This is the kind of CRAP we are dealing with up here, and exactly the kind of things my little run-ins have involved. Yes, seriously, we have jackbooted PRICKS trying to tell us what WORDS we can and cannot use. Its everyday sheet in Trudumbs CaNUTa.
One of thier favorites in Ontario is the Mental Health Act . They may not be able to to throw you in a jail cell for using words, so instead they throw you in handcuffs and lock you in an observation room for anywhere from 12 hours to 7 days until a doctor gets around to clearing you. Then they do it again if you get caught using the same words (or not being leftist P-C) again.
I'm looking forward to the revoloution.
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Therein is the big question. Where is the line between my right to say vs. your right not to hear ? And in the mirror I see a miserable old fart still stuck in 80's and 90's humor (Think Larry the Cable Guy, Ron White, Dice-CLay, Joe Dolche) who proudly wears a reb flag, doesnt give a flying frack HOW offended guns make liberals, thinks there are only 2 genders and isn't afraid to say it and LOVES the Duke Boys---and has NOOOOOOO intention of plying nice with the progressives or their "laws"
Its ALSO one of the main reasons I love neighbor-free rural living. With nobody around, there ARE none of these silly little laws or anybody to get bent out of shape and complain when I offffeeennndddd them.
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This is the kind of CRAP we are dealing with up here, and exactly the kind of things my little run-ins have involved. Yes, seriously, we have jackbooted PRICKS trying to tell us what WORDS we can and cannot use. Its everyday sheet in Trudumbs CaNUTa.
One of thier favorites in Ontario is the Mental Health Act . They may not be able to to throw you in a jail cell for using words, so instead they throw you in handcuffs and lock you in an observation room for anywhere from 12 hours to 7 days until a doctor gets around to clearing you. Then they do it again if you get caught using the same words (or not being leftist P-C) again.
I'm looking forward to the revoloution.
I also enjoy rural living. But, blaming LEOs for enforcing laws other's make is like blaming Mother Nature for a flood that took out your home. You know, the one you built down on the river in a flood zone. Use whatever influence you have and get new lawmakers.
There is a difference between exercising one's rights and seeking out confrontation. Been there, done that. I'm a Conservative and truly believe in our Constitution. Would defend it with my life.
Hey! Do us ALL a favor and enlighten everyone on who the fugg' you think gives one fugg' about what you think? You ain't no brain.
Just sayin'. Now go fugg' yer' self with your self-delusional masturbatory "detective agency". Really?
You're in waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay over your head. Nothing personal. You're just stupid.
I understand you're offended... but I'm just being honest. Every week, your posts make less and less sense. About 3 months ago, you started writing everything in prose, but at least they carried some level of thought. The past couple of posts from you that caught my eye lately are totally out there. These don't even carry any coherent thought.
God gave us TEN. Simply put, if everyone followed them, there would be no need for any other laws.
Breaking God's Laws means eternal damnation. No immediate penalty, easy to ignore for some. They don't follow those laws, so Man steps in and codifies immediate penalties to enforce societal norms.
It's a downward ( or upward ?) spiral down from there....
We blame government for 'oppressive ' laws and enforcement.
It seems to me the blame needs to be placed on the people that choose to misbehave.
It seems to me the blame needs to be placed on the people that choose to misbehave.
The discussion has circled back to Sheriff Joe, he provided the motivation that helped some stay on the straight and narrow or, at least avoided getting caught in his jurisdiction.
------------------ Rams
Isn't it strange that after a bombing, everyone blames the bomber, his upbringing, his environment, his culture, his mental state but … after a shooting, the problem is the gun.... Open your frigg'n minds, think about all the other tools that can be made into WMDs.
My wife told me to grow up. I told her to get out of my fort!
What's going on? Is Boondawg's User on Probation ruling connected to this?
Yet a certain forum member breaks the forum's rules almost every time he posts, and there's never any disciplinary action taken against him. You all know who I'm talking about.
This is why good people just up and leave this place.
What's going on? Is Boondawg's User on Probation ruling connected to this?
Yet a certain forum member breaks the forum's rules almost every time he posts, and there's never any disciplinary action taken against him. You all know who I'm talking about.
This is why good people just up and leave this place.
If you do not know why he is on probation, then how can you say people are leaving the forum for the same reason? I remember the photo, but have no idea who it was or why he posted it? I have to assume that it was another forum member? Either way, Boon has been warned about posting at least once that I know of, by Cliff. So if you are saying good people are leaving PFF because they ignore the moderator, then maybe you are the one that has a misunderstanding?
This is why good people just up and leave this place.
Yes of course, that must be it. 🙄
If you have a problem with other members breaking forum rules then do me and the rest of the forum a favor and hit either the "Report Post" button, send me a PM or send me an email. If people can't be bothered to do any of those simple things because "hey, I'm not the moderator, you are and it's your job to keep an eye on that", then stop whining and accept the fact that it is what it is.
Also, why don't you ask me what the reason is? Why whine in public but not actually seek the answer? Is it because you might find out there's actually a legit reason he is on probation which leaves you without anything to whine about?
What's going on? Is Boondawg's User on Probation ruling connected to this?
Yet a certain forum member breaks the forum's rules almost every time he posts, and there's never any disciplinary action taken against him. You all know who I'm talking about.
Geeez. Just call it out already. Are you talking about randeye? Is this the forum member who breaks every rule every time he posts? Do you have more examples which show me he should be banned?
Geeez. Just call it out already. Are you talking about randeye?
We're talking about randye.
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Is this the forum member who breaks every rule every time he posts?
I never said he breaks every rule... but the forum rules he does break, rules that you posted, occur on a regular basis.
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Do you have more examples which show me he should be banned?
"Banned"? Maybe start with a User on Probation. If he's not capable of acting like a civil human being, then sure, show him the door.
There are hundreds of examples of randye's abuse of the forum rules. This has been going on at least a half-dozen years. Boondawg and rinselberg are the most common targets of randye's endless harassment, but anyone who doesn't parrot his view of the world gets his special treatment. I am so sick and tired of him chasing rinselberg around the forum, calling him a "mental patient" etc over and over again. And why do you think Boondawg has rebelled against forum rules? It's because he's fed up with randye constantly demeaning him on the forum and nothing ever being done about it.
I'll be criticized (and no doubt rated accordingly) by a few of randye's "friends" for posting this out in the open... but I don't care... this nonsense needs to stop.
I'll be criticized (and no doubt rated accordingly) by a few of randye's "friends" for posting this out in the open... but I don't care... this nonsense needs to stop.
I agree. The nonsense needs to stop. But it will never stop if people can't even be bothered to notify me when something is going down. I have read zero posts from randye. Just like anyone else, I read topics that spark my interest. And apparently, those are not the topics randye (or Boondawg for that matter) posts in. So why is boondawg on probation and randye isn't? Well, because people did steer my attention to several occasions where he blatantly ignored forum rules.
I don't have the time to read every single topic on the forum. And before you or anyone else is getting their sticks to beat the ol' dead horse: no, there will not be extra moderators. That's never going to happen. I rely on the tools I've put in place to make this place as much self moderating as possible. But if nobody uses those tools, than that's it. Live with how it is. You say there are hundreds of examples where randye breaks forum rules. Yet you haven't given me a single one. A link to a thread. Or a post. People are easy to point out the problems, yet think it's too much trouble to be part of the solution.
You say there are hundreds of examples where randye breaks forum rules. Yet you haven't given me a single one. A link to a thread. Or a post.
Since rinselberg and Boondawg have borne the brunt of this constant harassment from randye, it's probably only fair to let them get first crack at bringing various posts and/or threads to your attention. I trust that Boondawg, while on probation, is still able to PM you?
Since rinselberg and Boondawg have borne the brunt of this constant harassment from randye, it's probably only fair to let them get first crack at bringing various posts and/or threads to your attention. I trust that Boondawg, while on probation, is still able to PM you?
Would seem to me that if you're the one offended, then you should be the one to report the offense. Just my simple mind working overtime.
I just read myself into the conversation here. I'm only here because of what is being said about particular (named) forum members and how they are (not) "Keeping It Civilized." A reference to the "Keep It Civilized" admonition that is listed first, among the Posting Rules that are at the very top of this Totally O/T section.
But before I say anything more, I just want to kind of keep my eye on the forum for at least another 24 hours. If I were to come out with "something" right now, I think it would be like taking that ill-timed step onto an escalator that leads to an awkward (even hazardous) stumble
If someone else were to say something here, that could move me to react or respond.
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Would seem to me that if you're the one offended, then you should be the one to report the offense.
I believe both Boondawg and rinselberg have been "offended" plenty. A dialog appears to have now been opened with Cliff as to the root cause of the problem here. I'm hoping the affected parties will take this opportunity to discuss the situation further.
I believe both Boondawg and rinselberg have been "offended" plenty. A dialog appears to have now been opened with Cliff as to the root cause of the problem here. I'm hoping the affected parties will take this opportunity to discuss the situation further.
I hope the affected parties stop trashing threads. I get it you hate each other, grow up and stop the crap.
I believe both Boondawg and rinselberg have been "offended" plenty. A dialog appears to have now been opened with Cliff as to the root cause of the problem here. I'm hoping the affected parties will take this opportunity to discuss the situation further.
If, that's the case, quit yer whining. You're either offended or not. I really don't care but, either report the offense or quit whining. Just a simple man's opinion. I really don't care if you report the offense to Cliff or not. I don't have a dog in that fight but, Cliff has advised you and everyone else on how to handle it. If, you're offended, go for it. Cliff has stated outright that the current system is going to stay in place. Either use it or not but, those two who you say are offended are big boys and can stand up for themselves. I assure you, if I find something that offensive, I have no issues using the "report button". If, I am correct and the "offense" is against Forum Rules, I am very confident that Cliff will address the issue.
Rams
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