One 'good' thing tho---about people that buy into those type conspiracy theory websites...Zero hedge, NaturalNews, godlike productions. If human brain transplants ever do get perfected, it's those people's brains that will be in high demand. The recipients aren't guaranteed to be getting a brand spanking new one but still, they'll be getting never been used brains.
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An interesting video, tho the shots of the V22s is basically just filler since it shows 'not much' My initial thought is that keeping a firefight of that magnitude and especially in a city the size of Berlin under media wraps is a bit hard to believe.
I think where some of these "conspiracy theory" types go off track is when they characterize the deep state as some mysterious, secret international society. Think of it more like a "good ol' boy" network.
Think of the Strozk/Page emails. Just among friends, you know?
I've got to admit, the content of this video (which occurs after Bill Still flogs the Fighter Flare Flashlight) seems... unlikely. So I decided to check out his YouTube channel. Wow. Bill must spend almost every waking moment of every day concocting conspiracy theories and cranking out videos.
Years ago, people such as this would be standing on street corners handing out leaflets to a handful of people who couldn't walk away fast enough. Now they can spew this mumbo-jumbo to potentially millions of people who may not click away fast enough after stumbling upon these online videos.
Here's another recent contribution from Bill. I suppose churning out these videos at least keeps him off the street.
Ilhan Omar @IlhanMN · 4h We must put an end to this economic crisis with:
-Direct monthly payments to every family -Expanded unemployment benefits -Rent and mortgage cancellation -Student debt cancellation -Medicare for All, including free COVID-19 treatment and vaccines
Why would unemployment benefits be needed at all if one doesn't have rent, mortgage payments, health care costs, student debt, and have free $$$ coming in from the govt? No one would be working .. wouldn't have to.
Why would unemployment benefits be needed at all if one doesn't have rent, mortgage payments, health care costs, student debt, and have free $$$ coming in from the govt? No one would be working .. wouldn't have to.
Well that's just racist...er...fascist...er...some kind of phobic. Here, have a play station and some Brittany Spears records. Feel better now?
Text augmented with PowerPoint-style viewgraphs (4) and 2+ minutes of video from MSNBC's "Meet the Press" with the Todd'ster (Chuck Todd). Or the Chuck'ster? Or "that sleepy-eyed SOB Chuck Todd"..? (Who dat say?)
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I think where some of these "conspiracy theory" types go off track is when they characterize the deep state as some mysterious, secret international society. Think of it more like a "good ol' boy" network.
Think of the Strozk/Page emails. Just among friends, you know?
Nothing in the world has changed. Someone (can be plural) always wants to be the one(s) to rule all of the world--and beyond. It won't ever change.
Here is the rub. Today it's the Democrats. What happens tomorrow when it IS my candidate? Do I sit back and say "Shut up! Accept the results!" like we are hearing now? Would you be quiet if it was the Republicans who did this? Free and fair elections are a must or we are destined to be just like Venezuela or Iraq.
Ah regurgitating Trump's B.S. That he's refusing to concede and is filing all these fake lawsuits (where he claims there was fraud too the public, but does not claim fraud in court ) That he's doing all this because he's trying to save and protect our "rigged election system".. No no, its not him just desperately trying to hold on to power, or put a show on for his supporters, hes trying to save the country! Give me a break!
Where were you after the 2016 election when there was actual evidence that Russia had meddled in the election? Where was your strong stance on protecting our election system then? All i heard from conservatives was it was B.S. (despite evidence it actually happened) Trump did everything he could to block, squash, or impede the investigation. Where was your patriotic stance to protect our elections then when the guy you liked won, despite questions to how he won?
All i remember hearing, from many here on the forum, was that it was "leftest lies", "conspiracy theories", just ignore it and "shut up and accept the results"
So now with over 4 years of lies from Trump, claiming that if he looses the election, its all because the system is rigged against him, he said it during his 2016 campaign (which the so called corrupt system elected him) and in 2020, that's all he cried about. If he looses its cause the system is rigged.. He was manipulating his supporters for this loss looooong before his 2020 campaign, because he knew his chances of winning a 2nd term were not in his favor.
So NOW your suddenly all concerned about the election system, NOW you believe there is possible fraud, despite this time there being no evidence of it. Now your concerned about the election system.. Mmmm K...
Only real difference now, is the guy you wanted to win, didn't.
Now I have always known that the Democrats were kind of....Dumb/foolish....But now every one of the Trump followers are saying that the Liberal/Leftists have this DEEP STATE but they can't hold up any real proof....Which makes it look like the Dumb lefties have OUT-SMARTED the Conservatives....Seems kind of contradictory to me.......
I think what Willie said is more correct; Instead of a giant, organized conspiracy, it is a Good Ole boy network........And truthfully, it can be from either side and even (Sometimes) Both sides together voting themselves "Bread & Circuses".....
I still wish that we had Term limits for EVERYONE (What is good for the president is good for EVERYONE!)
Oh, no. Then why would we need secret police and 17 intelligence networks. Ever heard of Snowden? Assange?
Anyone who has studied it knows that term limits don't really achieve anything that positive. Because the advisors and staffers aren't elected and never leave DC. Even when they get busted masturbating on a Zoom call in front of coworkers. The bureaucrats never change until they retire.
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Originally posted by williegoat: I think where some of these "conspiracy theory" types go off track is when they characterize the deep state as some mysterious, secret international society. Think of it more like a "good ol' boy" network.
Think of the Strozk/Page emails. Just among friends, you know?
Conspiracy Theory was a term to discredit without any basis which was invented by govern pysops.
The deep state is the donor class and control systems which is exactly the Good Ole Boy system. There's no difference. The media is deep state. Epstein, Soros, Gates, Zuckerberg, all of Big Tech (Twitter, etc.) are deep state aren't government officials.
Many on this forum have spent too long only interacting with people they agree with in a relatively unfiltered space. Groupthink has pushed your views so far in the direction you were already leaning that you’ve been blinded. Some of these YouTube videos.... sheesh. Learn to filter your sources!
It might be good to watch Trump and all of his resources continuously come up empty-handed with his lawsuits. Think of it as “coming up for air.”
Not that you're wrong. We'll see. But the process is proceeding exactly as Trump's team intends. The process is going to the Supreme Court. The "failures" in lower courts is part of the process of appeals and SOP. The lower courts know this and are cooperating to move it up the chain.
This is just for anyone pretending there's no deep state: Hell, in our life time we can find scores of conspiracies that government officials have concocted or participated in. And the deep state does things like fixing the Kennedy/Nixon election in Clark County Illinois to steal the election for JFK. The Deep State killed JFK. J Edgar used to testify before Congress that there's no organized crime while organized crime was giving him horse betting tips. ABSCAM, Ollie North and Iran Contra? Colin Powell and Saddam's nukes that they knew he wasn't pursuing. J Edgar even used organized crime against the Klan in the South.
The Good ol' Boy system IS a conspiracy by definition and implication. There's no little bit pregnant.
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Ah regurgitating Trump's B.S. That he's refusing to concede and is filing all these fake lawsuits (where he claims there was fraud too the public, but does not claim fraud in court ) That he's doing all this because he's trying to save and protect our "rigged election system".. No no, its not him just desperately trying to hold on to power, or put a show on for his supporters, hes trying to save the country! Give me a break!
Where were you after the 2016 election when there was actual evidence that Russia had meddled in the election? Where was your strong stance on protecting our election system then? All i heard from conservatives was it was B.S. (despite evidence it actually happened) Trump did everything he could to block, squash, or impede the investigation. Where was your patriotic stance to protect our elections then when the guy you liked won, despite questions to how he won?
All i remember hearing, from many here on the forum, was that it was "leftest lies", "conspiracy theories", just ignore it and "shut up and accept the results"
So now with over 4 years of lies from Trump, claiming that if he looses the election, its all because the system is rigged against him, he said it during his 2016 campaign (which the so called corrupt system elected him) and in 2020, that's all he cried about. If he looses its cause the system is rigged.. He was manipulating his supporters for this loss looooong before his 2020 campaign, because he knew his chances of winning a 2nd term were not in his favor.
So NOW your suddenly all concerned about the election system, NOW you believe there is possible fraud, despite this time there being no evidence of it. Now your concerned about the election system.. Mmmm K...
Only real difference now, is the guy you wanted to win, didn't.
Russia, Russia, Russia! They bought ads on Facebook! Um, ok sunshine. /S
Wasn't the finding that Russia spent $60,000 on Facebook ads in a billion dollar game of anelection? 60K won't buy 1 second of a Superbowl commercial. Not very damning. Thank God Russia exposed the East Anglia University emails where they conspired to fake Global Warming algorithm several years before.
Many on this forum have spent too long only interacting with people they agree with in a relatively unfiltered space. Groupthink has pushed your views so far in the direction you were already leaning that you’ve been blinded. Some of these YouTube videos.... sheesh. Learn to filter your sources!
It might be good to watch Trump and all of his resources continuously come up empty-handed with his lawsuits. Think of it as “coming up for air.”
then too........ there was this advice, tho the left now wishes the trump team would do NOT what she advised the Biden team TO do. (it's in the 1st few seconds of the video)
All i remember hearing, from many here on the forum, was that it was "leftest lies", "conspiracy theories", just ignore it and "shut up and accept the results"
But you didn't.
For four years you didn't
None of you did.
So you should just STFU while the "resistance shoe" is on the other foot now.
But you won't.
Leftists never do.
They're just not that bright.
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.... he's refusing to concede and is filing all these fake lawsuits (where he claims there was fraud too the public,
WTF is "fraud too the public"?
I'd demand that you show us a lawsuit that claims "fraud too the public" but of course there isn't one since, (aside from the nonsensical spelling), there is no such thing.
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Originally posted by Jonesy: All i remember hearing, from many here on the forum, was that it was "leftest lies", "conspiracy theories", just ignore it and "shut up and accept the results
You have a history of remembering stuff exactly opposite of the truth. I remember people saying to let the Russia investigation play out and if he is guilty then he pays the price. Once it was over and the hoax exposed then it was truly idiotic to hear people try to again claim it was Russia to blame for Trump’s win. Yet here you are.
Ah regurgitating Trump's B.S. That he's refusing to concede and is filing all these fake lawsuits (where he claims there was fraud too the public, but does not claim fraud in court ) That he's doing all this because he's trying to save and protect our "rigged election system".. No no, its not him just desperately trying to hold on to power, or put a show on for his supporters, hes trying to save the country! Give me a break!
Trumps lawyers are only saying election fraud outside of court because once they are in that court room they have to show evidence that is verifiable if not they run the risk of being disbarred. funny how that works out that way and why his lawyers have lost over 30 cases that they brought forward to prove election fraud, but as long as trumps lawyers are in court trump can honestly say the matter is in court and he will continue asking for money from idiots who think he still has a chance to win. That scam has netted him millions so far and if his cult fans would take a second to read the fine print they would see that they are indeed being scammed because they are giving money to help with court cost but the according to the web site when someone donates the money does not have to pay for those legal fees and trump can use the donated money pay other debts he has accumulated. If trump was billionaire why is he having such a hard time paying his bills? probably why he is so desperate to hide his tax returns, they prove he sucks as a businessman and has nowhere near as much money as he says he has thanks to one failed business after another due to incompetence.
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And that's really all one needs to know to figure out just exactly what kind of person we're dealing with.
Ever notice how he claims everyone is always out to get him? Every time something doesn't go his way it's because of some plot against him. He's always being picked-on. Nothing is ever his fault. Never, every time.
And that doesn't seem even a little-bit too coincidental, especially to a CONSERVATIVE mind? I mean, isn't that kind of behavior the epitome of entitled snow-flakiness? A complete absence of Personal Responsibility.
The truth is he is a spoiled lying little rich-kid who throws a hissy-fit every time he don't get his own way, or his actions are questioned, or someone disagrees with him.
But it seems some people desperate to regain some imaginary empowerment they were convinced was being torn from them by evil forces became hoodwinked by a charismatic egomaniac who told them he was the Chosen One. Jim Jones style, only without the money-shot.
Ever wonder how large numbers of seemingly rational people in the past could be taken-in by these types of...creatures? Now you know. All you gotta' do is give the people a common hate (real or imagined) and then blame that for all their problems.
Gee, I wish there was some way we could look back into antiquity to see if something like this has ever happened to anyone in the past...and than maybe figure out how to actually learn from it. Wouldn't that be keen.
We'll never get out of the woods walking-in-circles...:shrug:
We can agree to disagree. Going over and over this doesn't change the facts.
I'm pretty sure it was "well understood" that Trump and Epstein were nothing more than mere acquaintances. Trump has never been to Epstein island, unlike Bill Clinton, Prince Andrew, and several other members. Trump rarely had anything to do with him, other than the fact that Epstein was invited on occasion to some of the parties at Mar-A-Largo. There are hundreds of pictures of Trump with every person at his party. You only have pictures of Epstein with Trump at TRUMP parties... where, like I said, everyone gets a picture of him. Alternately, you have dozens of pictures of Epstein with Clinton and others in informal settings where they are literally "hanging out."
Trump was a businessman, and associated with anyone who was well connected that could help him with his businesses... that's how you do it. Trump banned Epstein, the acquaintance, from going to any more of his parties after he hit on the underage daughter of one of his business associates during a party. This was in early 2008... well before any of the Epstein stuff.
Look, I know you don't like Trump. I know you want to associate everything bad that you possibly can to Trump so you can further justify your hatred of him. But Trump and Epstein weren't a thing. Trump's never been to his island, and has ever only flown once on Epstein's jet from Florida to New Jersey because Epstein asked him to as he was pitching a business proposal to him.
Many on this forum have spent too long only interacting with people they agree with in a relatively unfiltered space. Groupthink has pushed your views so far in the direction you were already leaning that you’ve been blinded. Some of these YouTube videos.... sheesh. Learn to filter your sources!
It might be good to watch Trump and all of his resources continuously come up empty-handed with his lawsuits. Think of it as “coming up for air.”
This is literally the same thing I think of when I read your posts. I honestly wonder if you don't realize the irony of your own post. Nearly all my friends are radical liberals... I mean, hard core radical liberals. I've got maybe 1 (barely 2) that are conservative. I'm the resident Republican in my various friend groups, so every thing a Republican does, I have to answer for it... which I only enjoy too much. But I don't really do it the other way. It just reeks of irony seeing you say this, because I honestly believe that to be the case when I see you posting messages on here.
Do you believe that the election was fair, that no serious anomalies existed and the incidents of fraudulent voting were minimal?
Yes. And so far, Team Trump's "Cover Zero" strategy, of an all-out blitz, sending every lawyer (of the few that are willing to represent Trump or the Trump reelection campaign) to a courtroom with an elections-related lawsuit has--as far as I can see--changed nothing.
For the better part of two decades starting in the late 1980s, Jeffrey Epstein and Donald Trump swam in the same social pool. They were neighbors in Florida. They jetted from LaGuardia to Palm Beach together. They partied at Trump’s Mar-a-Lago Club and dined at Epstein’s Manhattan mansion.
"the danger comes from the origin of their beliefs. Their worldviews are not shaped by facts or research, but by the good feeling they derive from their sense of belonging and the rush of being right, even if no one outside their group agrees ― perhaps especially if no one outside their group agrees."
Is this about people who vote for utopia, or for "the first black person, or "the first woman" as a proirity, or to take away Americans ability to defend themselves? Undoing the constitution? As their friends cheer on social media and unfriend people who have differing opinions?
What is the origin of those beliefs? Do those people also like to stir the pot with rhetoric? Do they hit and run then disappear when responded to? Does it cause things like Canadians stirring the pot in Ameican political threads? Calling Kettles black?
As far as the election results, Republican candidates outperformed the predictions of some of the most well regarded polling groups. The Cook Political Report ("Charlie" Cook) is the first one that comes to my mind. Republicans at every level, from the Senate, to the House, and in the elections for the state legislatures especially, did well--on the whole. The one notable exception: the Trump-Pence candidacy for President and Vice President of the United States.
It must be especially galling for Donald J. Trump to be in this position. Although I think the Trump-Pence ticket actually garnered more popular votes than many of the well known polling groups were predicting.
It seems to me that there must have been a lot of voters who voted a straight Republican ticket on all the candidates that were before them, with one exception: They voted for Biden-Harris instead of Trump-Pence.
"The Enlightenment is on the ballot in November." ~ Historian, author and Biden-Harris speechwriter Jon Meacham
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