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'25 days that shook the Trump presidency.' A new Mike Flynn retrospective. by rinselberg
Started on: 12-03-2020 09:31 AM
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Originally posted by williegoat:

One does not have to be an "enthusiast" to see that he was done wrong.


Totally. The guy got jobbed. Charges dismissed tells the tale.

Wonder what the clinical term is when people can only respond by convincing themselves someone is a fanboy for pointing out an obvious?
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Originally posted by sourmash:

Wonder what the clinical term is when people can only respond by convincing themselves someone is a fanboy for pointing out an obvious?

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Lol.
I was overthinking it.
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Originally posted by rinselberg:

.......(a blog entry) describes three particular scenarios


Page link:

.....conspiracies-three-mike-flynn-hypotheticals-.....




Rational people live in the REAL world of objective facts and verifiable data.

Other people live in a fantasy world of propaganda, blogs, scenarios and hypotheticals and as a sad consequence are unable to discern between opinions and facts.

Again, I don't know what your weird obsession is with General Flynn that caused you to create FIVE THREADS regarding him on this forum, but the documented FACT is that you, and the sources you have cut & pasted, have been completely and consistently DEAD WRONG about the General Flynn matter for over THREE YEARS.

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]Originally posted by sourmash:

Totally. The guy got jobbed. Charges dismissed tells the tale.

Wonder what the clinical term is when people can only respond by convincing themselves someone is a fanboy for pointing out an obvious?

I don't believe that Flynn got "jobbed." I think he's a grifter, and an especially egregious kind of grifter, because he took his grifting into the space of public office (high public office) and U.S. national security. That's just a difference of opinion between myself and some of the other forum members.

But let me clear about something: When I said this, back on Page 1,
 
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If other Mike Flynn "enthusiasts" find their way here, they can review the thread and consider whether they want to look at any of the online reports that are available using the Internet page links in my messages.

That was not meant to distinguish or differentiate between the "pro-Flynn" and "anti-Flynn" ways of thinking and the people who are on opposite sides of the fence about it.

It's a joking kind of reference. To me, a Mike Flynn "enthusiast" is anyone who has enough interest in this topic to be here and be reading any of these public messages. I am a Mike Flynn "enthusiast."

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I want to give this thread a bump, so that my "Mike Flynn enthusiasts" phraseology (which raised some eyebrows) might be understood. That's two messages before this one. The message before this one, I just decided to delete.

But this is the first time I've become aware of Mike Flynn's interest in the relationship between California House Democrat Eric Swalwell--not my Congress person, but his district is close by--and--wait for it--Fang Fang! Actually, a Chinese national, Christine Fang. Here's a little copy-and-paste:
 
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"While the [U.S.] counterintelligence structure, and system, and leadership were focused on [myself and President Trump,] they should have been focused on [Eric] Swalwell. And I will tell you that if there's one smoking bush there with Swalwell, I guarantee you there's others," [said Flynn.]

Swalwell has claimed that he did not reveal any classified information to Fang, with whom he reportedly has been associated since his days as a city councilman in 2012. According to Axios, Fang placed an intern in Swalwell's office and helped fundraise for his 2014 congressional campaign.

Speculation over the nature of Swalwell's relationship with Fang has swirled since Axios published their report, which said that Fang had been sexually involved with at least two Midwestern mayors.

A "smoking bush"..? I can't remember encountering that figure of speech before. It strikes me as "salty."

So Eric Swalwell and Fang Fang. You can't make this stuff up. If I hadn't read this report and I saw "Eric Swalwell and Fang Fang" moving from right to left at the bottom of my TV screen (in the chyron) I would think that Swalwell was at a zoo where there's a Chinese panda named "Fang Fang." Wouldn't you?

"Flynn: Feds should have been looking into Swalwell instead of him and Trump"
 
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Recent report [from Axios] linked Swalwell to a suspected Chinese spy

Ronn Blitzer for Fox News; December 13, 2020.
https://www.foxnews.com/pol...alwell-investigation



Eric Swalwell and Christine Fang. This photo is from 2012.

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So, they found a chink in his amour?

 
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A "smoking bush"..? I can't remember encountering that figure of speech before.


You haven't ever dated an ornamental woman, have you?

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Originally posted by rinselberg:

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So Eric Swalwell and Fang Fang. You can't make this stuff up. If I hadn't read this report and I saw "Eric Swalwell and Fang Fang" moving from right to left at the bottom of my TV screen (in the chyron) I would think that Swalwell was at a zoo where there's a Chinese panda named "Fang Fang." Wouldn't you?


Eric Swalwell and Christine Fang. This photo is from 2012.



No, it's a common naming convention here. The girl who pays me is named RongRong. I know of another named QaioQaio (pronounced ChowChow) Ms. FangFang is pronounced with an AH sound like FahngFahng and not like venomous animal fangs. And FangFang is her given name, not her family name. Remember Fa Mu Lan from Disney? Fa was her family name, but she was just called Mulan as if it's one name. So the sneaky lady pictured above concealed here family name from everyone apparently.
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We may need a lot more Chinese lessons from Hudini if current trends continue.
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Put a New England or Tampa Bay NFL jersey on him and he could pass (no pun intended) for Tom Brady.

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Originally posted by williegoat:

We may need a lot more Chinese lessons from Hudini if current trends continue.


God I hope not. One day I will leave this mess and be among somewhat sane people.

The funnies thing I hear is about China cheating. If you think they are cheating then you don't understand the game they play.

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One day I will leave this mess and be among somewhat sane people.

Are you talking about China or PFF?
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Mike Flynn named in first paragraph of new report from NBC News!

"As Trump meets with QAnon influencers, the conspiracy's adherents beg for dictatorship"
 
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With Trump's days in office dwindling, QAnon influencers have become increasingly restless and militant, urging the president to "#crosstherubicon.”
 
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On Friday, President Donald Trump met with current and former advisers in the Oval Office, including retired Lt. Gen. Michael Flynn, and a person familiar with the meeting said Flynn advocated an extreme way to overturn the November election: declare martial law.

The idea is hardly limited to Flynn, Trump's disgraced former national security adviser. It has also been embraced by the QAnon movement and some members of the Republican Party.


Ben Collins for NBC News; December 22, 2020.
https://www.nbcnews.com/tec...ictatorship-n1252144

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Originally posted by williegoat:

Are you talking about China or PFF?


That is a good question. I spent many an hour (and $$) working on my Fiero to make it go fast. We have to be the actual crazies.
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