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A particularly pathological form of idiocy by 2.5
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Ethan Klein on Jordan Peterson, saying he's dangerous, which means he wo t conform and submit to the establishment as ray b has done:

https://mobile.twitter.com/...773996478474/photo/1

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Ethan Klein



Who the hell is "Ethan Klein" ?
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Not sure, myself. Just some establishment representative looking to make hay off the Peterson brand that Jordan plus his daughter responded to.
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Who the hell is "Ethan Klein" ?


He is a leftist for sure. He has a YouTube channel and about 6 million subscribers. He has picked fights with conservatives lately. Even picked a fight with Joe Rogan.
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He is a leftist for sure. He has a YouTube channel and about 6 million subscribers. He has picked fights with conservatives lately. Even picked a fight with Joe Rogan.


I'm guessing he won't debate with Jordan.
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Polticians, the purveyors of BS, every day, all day long.
A real good fakery, like a real good liar, will pay dividends and a lasting admiration from the deluded masses, the suckers.
Pathetic, superstitious, it's moronic.


Clips on religion

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Carlin was assoe, no doubt. If that makes you angry then you don't really understand that being one was his schtick.

Funny dude, most of the time, though.
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Reality spoken.
' Don't trust China ! '
Wonder where our man in Hong Kong has departed to, his words his last epithet to truth.

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Glad Fieros weren't made in China.

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And then for no particular reason, Jordan Peterson quit his tenured position.

https://www.rt.com/news/546...s-professor-toronto/

Jordan Peterson drops tenured professorship, blasts ‘stunningly corrupt enterprise’
“Diversity, inclusion and equity” are destroying academia, the conservative author has warned

Canadian psychologist and author Jordan Peterson has announced he is resigning as a tenured professor at the University of Toronto, citing concerns with academia’s shift towards “Diversity, Inclusivity and Equity mandates,” which he appreciates as “DIE.” The abbreviated term is one of reasons behind Peterson’s resignation, which he announced in a Wednesday piece for the National Post.

“The appalling ideology of diversity, inclusion and equity is demolishing education and business,” Peterson wrote.

The now-former professor said he “loved” his job and students, but voiced frustration that his “qualified and supremely trained heterosexual white male graduate students … face a negligible chance of being offered university research positions, despite stellar scientific dossiers.”

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READ MORE: YouTuber in Joe Rogan feud deletes interviews with Jordan Peterson
Impossible-to-meet diversity and political correctness standards are affecting both students and fellow staff members. Peterson refers to himself as “persona non grata” in his field because of his “unacceptable philosophical positions.”

“How can I accept prospective researchers and train them in good conscience knowing their employment prospects to be minimal?” he wrote, later adding that his colleagues “must craft DIE statements” to get research grants today.

“They all lie,” he said of many modern professors, adding they “teach their students to do the same.”

“They do it constantly, with various rationalizations and justifications, further corrupting what is already a stunningly corrupt enterprise,” he added about many of his colleagues, blasting teachers for undergoing modern “so-called anti-bias training.”

Accrediting boards for Canadian graduate clinical psychology training programs will refuse accreditation programs unless they include a “social justice orientation,” according to Peterson.

“All of you going along with the DIE activists, whatever your reasons: this is on you,” he added. “Cowering cravenly in pretence and silence. Teaching your students to dissimulate and lie. To get along. As the walls crumble.”

In a lengthy thread later posted on Twitter, Peterson highlighted students and professors confirming his concerns about ‘wokeism’ standards destroying academic standards.

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And then for no particular reason, Jordan Peterson quit his tenured position.

https://www.rt.com/news/546...s-professor-toronto/

Jordan Peterson drops tenured professorship, blasts ‘stunningly corrupt enterprise’
“Diversity, inclusion and equity” are destroying academia, the conservative author has warned

Canadian psychologist and author Jordan Peterson has announced he is resigning as a tenured professor at the University of Toronto, citing concerns with academia’s shift towards “Diversity, Inclusivity and Equity mandates,” which he appreciates as “DIE.” The abbreviated term is one of reasons behind Peterson’s resignation, which he announced in a Wednesday piece for the National Post.

“The appalling ideology of diversity, inclusion and equity is demolishing education and business,” Peterson wrote.

The now-former professor said he “loved” his job and students, but voiced frustration that his “qualified and supremely trained heterosexual white male graduate students … face a negligible chance of being offered university research positions, despite stellar scientific dossiers.”

with the news by installing RT’s extension for Chrome. Never miss a story with this clean and simple app that delivers the latest headlines to you.

20 Jan, 2022 20:44

READ MORE: YouTuber in Joe Rogan feud deletes interviews with Jordan Peterson
Impossible-to-meet diversity and political correctness standards are affecting both students and fellow staff members. Peterson refers to himself as “persona non grata” in his field because of his “unacceptable philosophical positions.”

“How can I accept prospective researchers and train them in good conscience knowing their employment prospects to be minimal?” he wrote, later adding that his colleagues “must craft DIE statements” to get research grants today.

“They all lie,” he said of many modern professors, adding they “teach their students to do the same.”

“They do it constantly, with various rationalizations and justifications, further corrupting what is already a stunningly corrupt enterprise,” he added about many of his colleagues, blasting teachers for undergoing modern “so-called anti-bias training.”

Accrediting boards for Canadian graduate clinical psychology training programs will refuse accreditation programs unless they include a “social justice orientation,” according to Peterson.

“All of you going along with the DIE activists, whatever your reasons: this is on you,” he added. “Cowering cravenly in pretence and silence. Teaching your students to dissimulate and lie. To get along. As the walls crumble.”

In a lengthy thread later posted on Twitter, Peterson highlighted students and professors confirming his concerns about ‘wokeism’ standards destroying academic standards.



Sounds like he had decent reasons to take an early retirement from the position.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oq2rBE5zwAs

I wonder what other positions across all of the earth's employment fields will be filled by people not by their qualifications but by their skin/gender/other qualifications, and what the long term side effects of this will be.
Standards twisted and destroyed, surely there will be no detrimental effect right?
This not even considering the negative mental / social effects.
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The Carlin Observations
2.5
----- Original Message -----
It isn't clear what you reference as BS, those who will not argue against the logic Peterson displays?
...
Politicians in general are, as Carlin and Sam Clements noted, top sellers of the subject BS.
' In the beginning of a change the patriot is a scarce man, and brave, and hated and scorned.
When his cause succeeds, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot. '
~ Mark Twain

' Show me a man that gets rich by being a politician, and I'll show you a crook. '
~ Harry S. Truman
Tune in to Carlin's vid at the 10:30 mark to hear some hard truth, been that way for centuries.
lol !
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Originally posted by Valkrie9:

The Carlin Observations
2.5
----- Original Message -----
It isn't clear what you reference as BS, those who will not argue against the logic Peterson displays?
...
Politicians in general are, as Carlin and Sam Clements noted, top sellers of the subject BS.
' In the beginning of a change the patriot is a scarce man, and brave, and hated and scorned.
When his cause succeeds, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot. '
~ Mark Twain

' Show me a man that gets rich by being a politician, and I'll show you a crook. '
~ Harry S. Truman
Tune in to Carlin's vid at the 10:30 mark to hear some hard truth, been that way for centuries.
lol !


So, that was our PM conversation, and I replied with this:

"I get your points, but still not clear on your opinion of what Peterson says. He isnt a politician."

Maybe ackowledging him as a Patriot?
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Tried posting, was informed.
' The user is not a member. '
So, I answered in thread instead.
Sure, the now perceived fault, or, wrongness of the world, weirdness emanating from the conduits of power and sewers across the face of the planet.
The strange feelings, sleepwalking to global war is the result of the insane repetition of the same lies, desiring a different result, again.
Should Biden_Joe send the 6th fleet into the Black Sea, we will be the witnesses of the spark that lit WWIII, a limited exchange of nukes, as deterrents.
A few days, sooner than later, a great noise will rise from the press, seeking peace by subjugation, kow tow now.
Things are not looking good, something stinks around here. ( George Carlin )
Yeah, politicians that need immediate changing, like diapers, and for the same reason. ( Samuel Clements )
Petersen is a refreshing voice of reason and logic in a torrent of deception and false journalism, lies, actually.
Listening to truth, it is more pleasant than the mimicked consensus of marxist stooges, suggesting that you disarm.
Constitutionally defending your Nation will be the last great act of patriots, brave and free.
' You know, you know, the thing ! '
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Things are not looking good, something stinks around here. ( George Carlin )
Yeah, politicians that need immediate changing, like diapers, and for the same reason. ( Samuel Clements )
Petersen is a refreshing voice of reason and logic in a torrent of deception and false journalism, lies, actually.
Listening to truth, it is more pleasant than the mimicked consensus of marxist stooges, suggesting that you disarm.
Constitutionally defending your Nation will be the last great act of patriots, brave and free.



Clear as a bell thank you
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How is it legal to break the law in hiring practices?
When will they go back to enforcing it?
Companies are doing this by using "DE&I" to guide hiring, for example.

https://www.eeoc.gov/prohib...nt-policiespractices

" It is illegal to discriminate against someone (applicant or employee) because of that person's race, color, religion, sex (including gender identity, sexual orientation, and pregnancy), national origin, age (40 or older), disability or genetic information.
..
It is illegal for an employer, employment agency or union to take into account a person's race, color, religion, sex (including gender identity, sexual orientation, and pregnancy), national origin, age (40 or older), disability or genetic information when making decisions about job referrals.
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It is illegal for an employer to publish a job advertisement that shows a preference for or discourages someone from applying for a job because of his or her race, color, religion, sex (including gender identity, sexual orientation, and pregnancy), national origin, age (40 or older), disability or genetic information.

For example, a help-wanted ad that seeks "females" or "recent college graduates" may discourage men and people over 40 from applying and may violate the law.

It is also illegal for an employer to recruit new employees in a way that discriminates against them because of their race, color, religion, sex (including gender identity, sexual orientation, and pregnancy), national origin, age (40 or older), disability or genetic information.

An employer may not base hiring decisions on stereotypes and assumptions about a person's race, color, religion, sex (including gender identity, sexual orientation, and pregnancy), national origin, age (40 or older), disability or genetic information.

The law makes it illegal for an employer to make any employment decision because of a person's race, color, religion, sex (including gender identity, sexual orientation, and pregnancy), national origin, age (40 or older), disability or genetic information. That means an employer may not discriminate when it comes to such things as hiring, firing, promotions, and pay. It also means an employer may not discriminate, for example, when granting breaks, approving leave, assigning work stations, or setting any other term or condition of employment - however small."
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3368WAl0qM

"When you lie, you warp the structure of reality"

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Humans use the tools at their disposal to gain and move power around, they'll use those tools no matter what label is on their head, R, D, C, L, etc. Watch for the ideologies not just which label you think is using them. As I said before don't focus so much on the labels. Thats a big part of how we are artificially divided.

But yes, the fakenews has been and will always be accepted as gospel by the gullible.


Ideology is just fancy speak for the rich of the world creating teams to fight against each other for their little cockfighting ring. Everyone on this forum is a poor getting taken for a ride.
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True. And sides are not unnecessary. There is no coming together of all people.

There is plenty of evil in the world. You don't try and bring it to your side.

There is plenty of evil enabling in this world. Those people and groups need to be sided against.

Corrupt people use evil itself and the evil (people) to fight dirty against the rest of us.

Media (MSM variety) is evil. National govs are controlled by evil people. Mayors, DAs and Chiefs of Police of large cities are controlled by the same evil people.

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slicknick I ran across this one today



Though I dont blame the "rich" per say, there are many people just seemingly being led around like cattle to the next feed trough.
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Originally posted by 2.5:

...there are many people just seemingly being led around like cattle to the next feed trough.


When I first looked at your post, I misread it and actually thought you had posted... "there are many people just seemingly being led around like cattle to the next feud trough." It made perfect sense!
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Originally posted by Patrick:

When I first looked at your post, I misread it and actually thought you had posted... "there are many people just seemingly being led around like cattle to the next feud trough." It made perfect sense!


The shoe does fit!

Feuds, controversey, they sell. They distract.
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This conversation simplifies some of the simple basics of this perceived mess quite well in places, including alot of key words and talking points that get tossed around these days. Especially in light of the other posts in this thread.
DE&I...CRT...Whiteness...Diversity...Stereotype

Notable segments IMO: 16 min mark, 39 min mark, 50 min mark, 57 min mark, 1:19:00 min mark, 1:26:00 min mark, 1:34:00 min mark


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3rZkv_prTOk

From Description:
Chloé Valdary and Jordan Peterson discuss her personal brand of compassionate anti-racism. Chloé has been featured in Psychology Today and the NY Times.

Apparently companies are calling her saying things like: "we messed up our business by embracing DE&I initiatives, can you help"?

I hope the powers that be (and all the people who dont know they have power) realize the destruction this whole racist DE&I thing they are forcing is causing, and how wrong it is and see that it doesnt work before it cripples us or causes much more division and strife.
(I expect it from at least the ones that don't WANT that as the final outcome.)



I also hope that Chloé Valdary's technique isnt also messed up, and doesnt also promote treating people differently based on race or other "category".

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People call others racist for pointing out who is gifted by gov as being a minority. I guess it's supposed to be like the N word, and never mentioned by some of us no matter the context.

And the left calls White people fragile.

But yes, all people groups can be classified as racially discriminatory, but "racist" as a word is a farce these days.
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