Originally posted by maryjane: So was my wife. She took nothing but tylenol. Vaccinated x2.
Someone recently informed me they had a fever and stomach nausea. Sunday evening, 3 days later , I got chills a 99.x fever, achy feeling everywhere. I took Tylenol at first but went to aspirin instead. I took a benadryl in case my sinuses got infected and because coughing can be the worst part of healing, but they didn't develop anything but clear discharge. I felt better on Tuesday. Sinuses the next week got a little yellow discharge on 1 side.
I felt bad Sunday night, Monday I had no fever and I slept a lot Tuesday. Two days. 75% to 85% of the time I take some vitamins including C and D.
The Tuesday that I felt better, a person I was around Fri and Sat got 102.x fever, achy feeling, took a test at the doctor and was +. He had all his shots and was bad for a few days. A 3rd person I was around developed symptons but was -. A 4th person developed a runny nose. No test. A 5th person a little later developed a sinus cough and sneezing and tested +. Had all the shots.
Four of us who were together Fri and Sat night got something. One for sure was positive. One was negative. The 5th lives in the same house that I do.
Me, Sunday night; fever, achy, I felt pretty down like a flu. Monday no fever but not really well. Tuesday I was good enough. Ketchup, mustard were horrible tasting. Other food was too salty for several days.
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A friend who is sorta heavy (and an Armenian Jew), but not really all that extra heavy got bronchitis, then pneumonia and covid. Went in the hospital and was on O2. He's out now and extremely weak. Still fighting it.
Originally posted by sourmash: A friend who is sorta heavy (and an Armenian Jew), but not really all that extra heavy got bronchitis, then pneumonia and covid. Went in the hospital and was on O2. He's out now and extremely weak. Still fighting it.
Which begs the question(s) . . . had he been vaccinated? Had he been boosted? Did (does) his treatment include HCQ? And last but not least, was (one of) the attending physician(s) Dr. Stella Immanuel?
IMWTK..!
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To sourmash: I hope your friend continues to improve.
I've become so accustomed to making remarks about Covid on this forum, and often of the "flip" or flippant variety, that I overlooked the personal angle here, when I posted up my previous message.
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Thank you for taking the time to make a personal statement of good wishes..
I can't remember what he told me months ago for certain, but I am under the impression that he is double injected. I'm very confident that part of his treatment was a booster in the hospital.
No booster so he probably has no shots. Bronchitis is what he was initially diagnosed with. He was afraid it was covid but tested negative at the doctor. Then it developed into pneumonia and he was hospitalized. During treatment in the hospital as an inpatient he developed covid, according to them. He says it's the pneumonia he's suffering from.
Since this is likely to be extremely tedious and also likely to be completely unproductive with you, let's start with what should be the simplest thing:
IF you had the competence to understand what you presumably read you would NOT have ridiculously asked "Has this been peer reviewed?"
1.) The header of the document clearly shows that the study was published by PMC, US National Library of Medicine, National Institutes of Health. The NLM / NIH peer reviews all studies before they publish them. In this instance it shows that NLM / NIH chose this study from PMC as they routinely do.
2.) PMC, (PubMed Central), also a part of NIH / NLM, receives medical publications and studies from all over the United States and the world. PubMed peer reviews the manuscripts they receive prior to them publishing them to the NLM
3.) The header of the document also clearly shows that PubMed / PMC received the study from Cureus which utilizes a "post publication peer review system" which the instant matter clearly survived and did so with sufficient credential to be selected and further reviewed by the aforementioned NLM / PMC
4.) And finally, the document also clearly shows that the study received review and approval by the following FIVE entities:
All told this particular study has been peer reviewed at least EIGHT TIMES...
Even a casual, lay, reader should have at least questioned where the study came from as evidenced by it's header, but you are completely oblivious and incurious.....
...and your clear incompetence with the subject matter at hand is then demonstrated with your question: Has this been peer-reviewed?
I'll leave you to go back again and try desperately to ferret out what the "control group" in that study is.
It's clearly there and it's as obvious as the peer review you aren't competent in this area to understand.
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OH, and as I said before:
Dr. Stella Immanuel is still a practicing, board certified, licensed, pediatric and emergency medicine physician in the state of Texas.
She has no actions taken against her by the Texas state licensing or medical ethics boards for any violations or complaints.
She reportedly still successfully treats her patients with SARS COV2 using a regimen that includes HCQ
Thanks for showing me that it had been peer reviewed I have been traveling a lot lately and didn't look very closely from my phone.
It doesn't really address my question about what the study was about. It studied a mix of drugs with Vitamin C compared to that same mix without Vitamin C, correct?
Here's a recently published research report that's been given a somewhat whimsical title:
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“H” is not for hydroxychloroquine—“H” is for heparin: lack of efficacy of hydroxychloroquine and the role of heparin in COVID-19—preliminary data of a prospective and interventional study from Brazil
Whimsicality: you don't see that everywhere you look in these specialist's publications. What's the inspiration here? Dr Seuss? Alfred Hitchcock?
Oh, about that journal article... published just a few days ago...
“H” is not for hydroxychloroquine—“H” is for heparin: lack of efficacy of hydroxychloroquine and the role of heparin in COVID-19—preliminary data of a prospective and interventional study from Brazil Renata de Oliveira Costa, et al, for BMC Infectious Diseases; February 4, 2022. https://link.springer.com/a...6/s12879-022-07110-1
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This study confirmed the absence of a benefit associated with the use of HCQ [hydroxychloroquine] in Brazilian patients hospitalized with COVID-19. However, prophylactic or therapeutic heparin was an independent predictor for reducing mortality in this population.
FWIW
Maybe that's what Trump was reaching for all along: Heparin. It was next to Hydroxychloroquine in his Rolodex, and he just . . .
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In vitro screening for pharmacological activity of existing drugs showed chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine to be effective against severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2. Oral administration of these compounds to obtain desired pulmonary exposures resulted in dose-limiting systemic toxicity in humans. However, pulmonary drug delivery enables direct and rapid administration to obtain higher local tissue concentrations in target tissue. In this work, inhalable formulations for thermal aerosolization of chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine were developed, and their physicochemical properties were characterized. Thermal aerosolization of 40 mg/mL chloroquine and 100 mg/mL hydroxychloroquine formulations delivered respirable aerosol particle sizes with 0.15 and 0.33 mg per 55 mL puff, respectively. In vitro toxicity was evaluated by exposing primary human bronchial epithelial cells to aerosol generated from Vitrocell. An in vitro exposure to 7.24 μg of chloroquine or 7.99 μg hydroxychloroquine showed no significant changes in cilia beating, transepithelial electrical resistance, and cell viability. The pharmacokinetics of inhaled aerosols was predicted by developing a physiologically based pharmacokinetic model that included a detailed species-specific respiratory tract physiology and lysosomal trapping. Based on the model predictions, inhaling emitted doses comprising 1.5 mg of chloroquine or 3.3 mg hydroxychloroquine three times a day may yield therapeutically effective concentrations in the lung. Inhalation of higher doses further increased effective concentrations in the lung while maintaining lower systemic concentrations.
Given the theoretically favorable risk/benefit ratio, the clinical significance for pulmonary delivery of aerosolized chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine to treat COVID-19 needs to be established in rigorous safety and efficacy studies.
CONFLICT OF INTEREST STATEMENT
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The authors... have patent applications pending on pharmaceutical composition comprising chloroquine or hydroxychloroquine and uses thereof. All authors are employees of Philip Morris International.
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Originally posted by cliffw: My wife (you know Cindi) got Covid. She is 64, overweight, was a life long smoker quit ten years ago) but still gets short of breath.
She did not take HCQ, AZM, zinc, nor vitamin C as a preventative. She took them as a treatment. ... it was over it in less than a week.
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Originally posted by maryjane: So was my wife. She took nothing but tylenol. Vaccinated x2.
I did not know, but am glad Jane got better and is doing good.
Cindi, double vaxxed and boosted, got Covid again. Can we quit calling it a vaccine ? It is not a preventative, perhaps it's a pre infection treatment.
Cindi is pretty much a hypochondriac. She felt a sore throat and sought a test for Covid. A positive result. I felt no symptoms and did not test.
The first time she got it she masked and quarantined in our bedroom. I did not mask even though our ventilation system circulated the whole home. This time, she did not mask or quarantine, nor did I mask.
We sought another test, this time I tested. She was still positive, I tested negative. She quipped that they should do a study on me as to why I have never contracted Covid, even after being exposed.
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Originally posted by 2.5: Whats a good source / list of things that treat or speed up covid? Where to get them, etc. They don't seem to advertise that much.
Her Dr prescribed her ivermectin noun a drug that kills parasitic nematode worms, mites, and insects. It is used to treat a variety of parasitic infections in domestic animals and onchocerciasis in humansClick to show, aryphmycin, calcium with D3, vitamin C, and zinc.
A few days later, we tested again. We were both positive. My Dr could not prescribe the ivermectin, . He prescribed me only Paxlovid.
I have been traveling a lot lately and didn't look very closely from my phone. 
. He prescribed me only Paxlovid.
