I've been poking around and I can't find anything about this. He was strong in his opinions but I never saw him overtly insult anyone, much less snipe like everyone seems to do when politics are discussed. What happened?
Noticed that earlier today when I ventured into the political forum area.
Probably from stuff he posted over there.
I've had my "differences of opinion" with him a few times, but some of what he posted ended up being shown to be the truth.
but in the end, it doesn't matter. He is now banned.
I'm not sure what ANYONE really "wants". Past few years hasn't been great for the overall health (mental and physical) of the species.
I've found many people aren't "happy" in the core off their being and many of them will actively choose to remain in their unhappy little situation instead of choosing a probably "better" alternative.
I've been poking around and I can't find anything about this. He was strong in his opinions but I never saw him overtly insult anyone, much less snipe like everyone seems to do when politics are discussed. What happened?
Oh, he definitely offended. It goes beyond the usual stuff here. He was overtly offensive at every opportunity.
I don't think he ever really got under my skin except maybe once or twice, but he was constantly making remarks that were insanely racist. I come from the mindset that racism is generally really, really overblown, and it's not something honestly that most people ever really deal with.
I'm technically Hispanic by virtue of the fact that my mom is, and the family in Argentina go way back in Argentine history. But I'm probably whiter than he is, but he routinely made comments about "the others" and white pride. Like... the most totally ridiculous stuff. Again, this stuff is completely silly, and doesn't bother me at all, but God forbid, I definitely don't want someone like that aligned with me politically. So I'm glad he's out. I don't even think I had him rated... I don't remember. But he certainly pissed off enough people.
He made sense now and then, but he was constantly falling hard for some of the more outlandish stuff.
The reality is, in MOST conspiracy, there is a bed of truth. The best conspiracies ARE based in some fact. Matter of fact, this is the entire pretense for operations in the Internet Research Agency of St. Petersburg (Russia). You take something that has some truth, and spin a wild story. It makes it infinitely better if there's already some little bit of scandal involved.
Every time, that man would fall hard for the extreme crazy side of the story. It certainly didn't help that news outlets did everything they could to tamp down stories that they viewed as potentially bad towards Biden. This only inflamed people like Sourmash so that they'd immediately start flocking to even the most insane news they could find.
I don't want to turn this into a Sourmash-bash (hah, that sounds funny)... because he's not here to defend himself. But I would say he let himself get too far on the deep-end.
I would also say that he allowed himself to become racist... which is not hard to do. If you're presented with the wrong material, it incites you, and you continue to go down that path, you can allow yourself to believe anything.
If you watch 10 videos of black thugs beating up poor innocent white teens coming back from church, it's going to leave a mark on you. But remember what policies caused this to happen... Democrat policies. A black man would feel the same way watching 10 videos of white police officers beating the **** out of some poor black teen that's on his way from church. In several cases, these videos might be selectively edited. Some aren't... there are bad people in this world. But focusing on the negative certainly doesn't help you see the whole picture in life. And I think Sourmash is one of those individuals who had a propensity to let the narrative feed his rage.
Originally posted by olejoedad: He [sourmash] triggered the ratings system. As soon as he hit the magic 50 ratings he was banned. Notice the flashing red bar and the ratings counter.
I wonder if this was flagged for Cliff Pennock's attention. If the forum software automatically created some kind of message for Cliff Pennock that the ratings system had been triggered in this way. Then Cliff would have had the opportunity to reject or uphold the banning.
Like a "Fail Safe" switch.
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The system is a little strange now. Over in General Chat, Fiero Vice was banned back on 1/30. A few days later it changed to "probation" where he has been ever since so Sourmash could be changed to "probation" if Cliff decides.
The system is a little strange now. Over in General Chat, Fiero Vice was banned back on 1/30. A few days later it changed to "probation" where he has been ever since so Sourmash could be changed to "probation" if Cliff decides.
Ah. That's my mistake. The reason I changed it to probation was so he could copy some important information from his private messages. If your status is "banned", then you also have no access to your private messages. You do when on "probation".
Apparently, I forgot to change it back to "banned". Will do so now.
Ah. That's my mistake. The reason I changed it to probation was so he could copy some important information from his private messages. If your status is "banned", then you also have no access to your private messages. You do when on "probation".
Apparently, I forgot to change it back to "banned". Will do so now.
Thanks for explaining that. I was wondering what was going on.
I wonder if this was flagged for Cliff Pennock's attention. If the forum software automatically created some kind of message for Cliff Pennock that the ratings system had been triggered in this way.
From what I understand the system is you are fine and well no matter what you do for the most part (unless someone reports something grevious enough that Cliff boots ya, ...rare) , oblivious to who you may be ticking off until you surpass 50 ratings, if a ton of those 50 are negative, the reprocussions hit cumulatively.
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In general, I do not like to see anyone banned, but sourboy and Furgal are two that I do not miss. Their raison d'etre was to cause hate and discontent.
Originally posted by 2.5: From what I understand the system is you are fine and well no matter what you do for the most part (unless someone reports something grevious enough that Cliff boots ya, ...rare) , oblivious to who you may be ticking off until you surpass 50 ratings, if a ton of those 50 are negative, the reprocussions hit cumulatively.
My question, though, is what happens (or in the case of sourmash, what happened) after that negative ratings threshold is triggered and the forum software changes that member's status to "Banned."
Does that get flagged by the forum software and flagged immediately for Cliff Pennock's review?
My question, though, is what happens (or in the case of sourmash, what happened) after that negative ratings threshold is triggered and the forum software changes that member's status to "Banned."
Does that get flagged by the forum software and flagged immediately for Cliff Pennock's review?
That's what I was thinking about.
"Watch this space."
From what I understand Cliff does not ban the user, the software does it. He said he can give them a chance and rate them positive and if it makes a difference they can have a second chance. But you cant just post and be oblivious until bam here comes the bus to **** up your day.
Pavlovian conditioning. Unconditional agreement or you get the electrical shock, wag your tail and smile, you get a treat. !
! Being correct, is apparently irrelevant. Sure, some of what he typed was for shock value, not wrong tho. Resurrect sourmash ! Returned from the veterinarian with his scroat intact, ' They shaved me, I felt the blade, I was scared, I'll be a good puppy now ! ' ' Heel ! '
Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]: Oh, he definitely offended. It goes beyond the usual stuff here. He was overtly offensive at every opportunity.
I don't think he ever really got under my skin except maybe once or twice, but he was constantly making remarks that were insanely racist. I come from the mindset that racism is generally really, really overblown, and it's not something honestly that most people ever really deal with.
I'm technically Hispanic by virtue of the fact that my mom is, and the family in Argentina go way back in Argentine history. But I'm probably whiter than he is, but he routinely made comments about "the others" and white pride. Like... the most totally ridiculous stuff. Again, this stuff is completely silly, and doesn't bother me at all, but God forbid, I definitely don't want someone like that aligned with me politically. So I'm glad he's out. I don't even think I had him rated... I don't remember. But he certainly pissed off enough people.
He made sense now and then, but he was constantly falling hard for some of the more outlandish stuff.
The reality is, in MOST conspiracy, there is a bed of truth. The best conspiracies ARE based in some fact. Matter of fact, this is the entire pretense for operations in the Internet Research Agency of St. Petersburg (Russia). You take something that has some truth, and spin a wild story. It makes it infinitely better if there's already some little bit of scandal involved.
Every time, that man would fall hard for the extreme crazy side of the story. It certainly didn't help that news outlets did everything they could to tamp down stories that they viewed as potentially bad towards Biden. This only inflamed people like Sourmash so that they'd immediately start flocking to even the most insane news they could find.
I don't want to turn this into a Sourmash-bash (hah, that sounds funny)... because he's not here to defend himself. But I would say he let himself get too far on the deep-end.
I would also say that he allowed himself to become racist... which is not hard to do. If you're presented with the wrong material, it incites you, and you continue to go down that path, you can allow yourself to believe anything.
If you watch 10 videos of black thugs beating up poor innocent white teens coming back from church, it's going to leave a mark on you. But remember what policies caused this to happen... Democrat policies. A black man would feel the same way watching 10 videos of white police officers beating the **** out of some poor black teen that's on his way from church. In several cases, these videos might be selectively edited. Some aren't... there are bad people in this world. But focusing on the negative certainly doesn't help you see the whole picture in life. And I think Sourmash is one of those individuals who had a propensity to let the narrative feed his rage.
There were (multiple) times I wondered if he was literally part of a disinformation campaign himself, a Russian agent.
Retrospective analysis of truth and reasoning, more right than wrong. ! Repetitive cliche parroting has little effect on those able to discern reality. In a war that will escalate quickly because the enemy has plans for world domination, the internal domestic sympathizers will be rounded up under martial law, a matter of precedence, Dec 1941. Compiled lists of domestic terror accomplices and co-conspirators shipped to camps for the safety of the Nation, the internal threat of sabotage handled, into collectives located in southeast Texas, miles across, disarmed for the safety of the State. There, inside the double wire fences topped with razor, the rabid bolsheviks will take to their boxes and stools to be heard above the gathered desperate crowds, extolling the virtues of marxism as a means to take power by gun barrel, power forever, the Constitution be damned. So, yeah, sourmash is the telltale, the canary in the coal mine, that dissent is not to be tolerated in the conversation about the future of America. ' You better shut up kid '
Compiled lists of domestic terror accomplices and co-conspirators shipped to camps for the safety of the Nation, the internal threat of sabotage handled, into collectives located in southeast Texas, miles across
Oh, do tell, where (exactly) these Texas 'collectives miles across' are located. I'll take a drive down and check them out.
Those who do nothing, do nothing wrong. Those who say nothing, (other than unsubstantiated rhetoric and hyperbole) say nothing wrong.
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The history of the planet, all of it, has made clear that the instant weakness is discernible by the barbarians, they begin their plans for attack. Why Putin invaded Ukraine, the provocation planned long ago, Biden_Joe weakly responding, intent on retreat, in the South China Sea, moments from now. Incapable of defending his own southern border, Biden_Joe's strategy is capitulation on behalf of Americans, to avoid nuclear attack, that which Putin has promised. Massive communist armies approach unimpeded, from Mexico, from Canada, sea, air, and by space, 400 million conventional mobilized, under an umbrella of nuke missiles. Armageddon. The attack on the Constitution, that which confirms, and acknowledges freedom. Camps, to separate the the factions in hope of domestic peace, as has been practiced for more than a century, conveniently located behind the southern front, Texas. Perhaps some of you are under the illusion that the Ukraine attack is the war, when it is the first pawn's move by white, to draw the machines of black out. The most effective first strike by Putin, would then have to be the most significant and symbolic military target on the continental US. Washington. The spring offensive is about to begin. You're gonna have to fight, to exist, to be. Or be blown away by the winds of time, a memory soon forgotten, a mere blip in the global political arena.
As I was traveling today, listening to some talk show on the radio, they began to talk about Frank James and his racist posts. Obviously, I don't know Frank James but, what they said and how they described Frank James internet postings reminded me of someone from this forum. Although he's no longer here, that's who I thought of first.
As I was traveling today, listening to some talk show on the radio, they began to talk about Frank James and his racist posts. Obviously, I don't know Frank James but, what they said and how they described Frank James internet postings reminded me of someone from this forum. Although he's no longer here, that's who I thought of first.
