As far as this Aldi's market that is requiring that people have a mobile phone with the Aldi's app to enter the store, I can see the argument that this enables them to offer lower prices.
Google wants a Palm Print and App to use Whole Foods in some stores.
------------------ Dr. Ian Malcolm: Yeah, but your scientists were so preoccupied with whether or not they could, they didn't stop to think if they should. (Jurassic Park)
As far as this Aldi's market that is requiring that people have a mobile phone with the Aldi's app to enter the store, I can see the argument that this enables them to offer lower prices.
But where does the discussion go from there?
I didn't follow Mike's link, but how is requiring an app different than requiring a(n) user account before ordering on say Amazon?
I'll be back to read this thread when I grab my laptop.
Aldi's is pretty damn amazing, to be honest. 150-160 bucks to get what I normally get for 350 in my local neighborhood. Its nuts how vastly different their prices are compared to other places.
Ok, so we have "bagel Pizzas" instead of "pizza bagels". 1/6th the price!?! and bread is 50 cents instead of 3.99 (That's actually kinda 4 bucks)??? Thats nuts.
Originally posted by fredtoast: 1. I don't consider scanning an app a sacrifice or burden
Any compulsory action is a burden. It takes away free choice.
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2. I don't believe that businesses should be regulated just to staunch the tears of whimpering luddites.
So a grocery store should be able to FORCE you to own a smart-phone AND CARRY IT WITH YOU, and do business with a cell carrier ? The corpocracy has beyond "crossed the line" in taking control of individual lives. But you are right, regulation isnt the appropriate response. Execution of the board is.
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Yes, I own one. No I don't carry it with me, it generally stays at home. I refuse to be location-tracked and where I am going or have been is nobodies business but mine. ESPECIALLY not google or da goobernment. Dont really give a damn how many "policies" or "terms and conditions" or "regulations' or "laws" that violates. They can go eff themselves.
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I've heard/read that quite a few places around Austin Tx are going card only, no cash. Reasons vary. New age hippy type restaurants mostly.
Six Flags and all of their parks have been for at least 3 years. Reverse ATMs in the large buildings. Tickets the same way.
I could talk about security ad nauseum, which also is to the point: if you don't like it shop elsewhere. The app even more so. I don't eat at McDonald's or have their app. Same with every other fast food joint. It isn't a big deal to me. On the rare occasion I get fast food I almost always go in and to a person. I don't carry a ton of cash, so I do pay with my card. I used to "tap to pay" (specifically Samsung pay and MST) long before everyone was doing it. I stopped because they took away the rewards. It was close to $50 a month. Incentive to get me hooked.
I have my suspicion that they are trying to rid us of non-digital transactions...and why not? I'm not a Judeo-Christian guy, but the bible has a lot of good insight. None in my mind related to a deity.
Mike I hope you have a great day. I like Aldi. Don't shop there often due to geography. My "poor" friend in college used to skip out on paying or leave his wallet. Aldi took daddy's Amex though and we used to make him load up.
The problem isnt the one store. or a theme park. or a burger joint. Not any one of them.
It's the overall trend of "going China" with the "social credit" and the technology is the means to do it.
Personally, I refuse to play the game. We have 2 grocery stores here, No Frills (Loblaws) and Walmart Supercenter. If both of of those chains jump on board with "the app crap" I will be driving an hour each way for groceries.
It use to be a company selling anything to the public, in a walk in situation had to accept cash, it was illegal not to….10k fine from the treasury dept for not accepting cash. Forcing anybody into using goods and services they don’t want….or can afford, (interest rates) is B.S. Credit cards or any credit system will set up people who haven’t had any basic training on good credit practices for failure in over extending their means.. imo
Going "cashless" eliminates the carbon emissions and other environmental pollution that arises from the couriering and trucking of paper currency and coins between retail points of sale, collection centers and banks.
Going "cashless" eliminates the carbon emissions and other environmental pollution that arises from the couriering and trucking of paper currency and coins between retail points of sale, collection centers and banks.
Remember the early 70's Mopar small-blocks ?
Cross-over passages in the intake manifold would get clogged up with carbon and it wouldnt run right.
I think the exact same thing is happening to eco-wackos brains.
It use to be a company selling anything to the public, in a walk in situation had to accept cash, it was illegal not to….10k fine from the treasury dept for not accepting cash. Forcing anybody into using goods and services they don’t want….or can afford, (interest rates) is B.S. Credit cards or any credit system will set up people who haven’t had any basic training on good credit practices for failure in over extending their means.. imo
I thought I knew that when I was a kid. When did this change or is it now just like the weed laws?
Going "cashless" eliminates the carbon emissions and other environmental pollution that arises from the couriering and trucking of paper currency and coins between retail points of sale, collection centers and banks.
That almost sounds crazy. But that's a lot of moving parts that will eventually just not be there anymore...
Just think about how many humans are involved with the production and transportation of cash. And the installation and maintenance of the machines that dispense it... That's a lotta jobs goin' away...
If humans were different, imagine a world where you could just walk around and not have to worry about any of the stuff that many folks worry about nearly constantly.
We should all go back to carrying bags of Gold dust! (I was using the green stuff to pay for things at the store- but recently two times, the clerk told me "That's moldy bread!" I thought money was referred to as bread...and it's green.....)
Seriously, I don't own a schmart phone....I had a flip phone but they killed it (3G) and the replacement they sent me was defective...so I now just have a home phone. And any time they mention Q-R code on TV I want to throw a brick thru the TV.
Originally posted by rinselberg: Going "cashless" eliminates the carbon emissions and other environmental pollution that arises from the couriering and trucking of paper currency and coins between retail points of sale, collection centers and banks.
My. You are so fearful of carbon emissions. How do you sleep t night ?
So a grocery store should be able to FORCE you to own a smart-phone AND CARRY IT WITH YOU, and do business with a cell carrier ?
Yes. They should be FREE to do this in a FREE MARKET society. Why do you hate FREEDOM so much. Why do you think everyone should be FORCED AGAINST THEIR WILL to do things the way you want to?
Originally posted by fredtoast: Yes. They should be FREE to do this in a FREE MARKET society. Why do you hate FREEDOM so much. Why do you think everyone should be FORCED AGAINST THEIR WILL to do things the way you want to?
I value INDIVIDUAL freedom, not Corporate freedom. A corporation HAS no "rights". Some fool idiot judge long ago decided to grant artificial entities "personhood" and it has been downhill since. I am as much against the corpocracy and I am the gubMENTAL idiocrac6y.
Originally posted by fredtoast: Yes. They should be FREE to do this in a FREE MARKET society. Why do you hate FREEDOM so much. Why do you think everyone should be FORCED AGAINST THEIR WILL to do things the way you want to?
What about MY freedoms, Fred? The freedom from their tracking software that follows what I buy, when I buy, where I buy. And probably tracks a LOT of things they don't "bother" to tell me about.
