This is a fairly brief, news report-style report for the non-specialist audience.
"Better energy harvesting with the newly developed ‘law-breaking’ device" Mohammad Qusir Rather (Dan Rather's younger brother?) for Charming Science; July 26, 2023. https://charmingscience.com...law-breaking-device/
YouTube's infinitely affable "Electric Viking" narrates an 8-minute video narrative about this research for the non-specialist audience.
Citation (for the research report; not a law enforcement citation for criminally violating Kirchoff's law.) Shayegan, K.J., Biswas, S., Zhao, B. et al. Direct observation of the violation of Kirchhoff’s law of thermal radiation. Nat. Photon. (2023). https://doi.org/10.1038/s41566-023-01261-6
This is supplementary information about the research report in Nature Photonics. It has some visual data presentations. Apparently, they created a prototype "Kirchoff's law violating device" and compared their measurements to a computer simulation using the COMSOL Multiphysics Simulation Software package.
I'm just putting this up here for the novelty of posting something that's being described as "breaking" a law of physics that had been "upheld for more than 150 years", according to the news report-style report in Charming Science that I set out as my starting point when I posted this new forum topic.
Of course, there's a general interest on this forum about energy transition-related topics like EVs and solar energy.
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YT and others have plenty of crap post that echo this and more. A "real" University say X must be True means nothing but PR for a short term. Often a Very Short Term. All "Ivy League Schools" and more pushes out a lot of Total Crap and if Publish "for Peer Review." many are force to retract them w/o bothering MSM or anyone else. Other "papers" simply fall thru holes as no-one bothers to review crap. Worse Other Crap Papers often cit old crap papers, surveys, "studies," etc. knowing they are a scam.
Far Worse, many DOE-funded projects are total crap too like all Solar Roads, paths, bike ways, etc. w/ US alone wasting Billions on anything "Green."
------------------ Dr. Ian Malcolm: Yeah, but your scientists were so preoccupied with whether or not they could, they didn't stop to think if they should. (Jurassic Park)
Inspired by photosynthesis in plants, scientists are designing materials and chemical processes that can convert sunlight into chemical energy using only components of air: water, carbon dioxide, and nitrogen. Directly producing liquid fuels from these abundant feedstocks would provide an efficient way to store and dispatch solar energy on a pathway to energy independence.
The Liquid Sunlight Alliance is developing the science principles by which durable[,] coupled microenvironments can be co-designed [?] to efficiently and selectively generate liquid fuels from sunlight, water, carbon dioxide, and nitrogen. . . . Founded in 2020, LiSA is one of two projects in the Fuels from Sunlight Energy Innovation Hub funded by the U.S. Department of Energy, Office of Science, Basic Energy Sciences.
This is some highfalutin language. I don't understand the distinction between "designed" and "co-designed" in this context. I think maybe "co-designed" is a way of emphasizing the idea of teamwork or collaboration. The old fashioned word "design" could be construed as a microaggression..? "Whatever."
If ya can't dazzle em' with brillance; baffle em' with BS.
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This is some highfalutin language. I don't understand the distinction between "designed" and "co-designed" in this context. I think maybe "co-designed" is a way of emphasizing the idea of teamwork or collaboration. The old fashioned word "design" could be construed as a microaggression..? "Whatever."
YT and others have plenty of crap post that echo this and more. A "real" University say X must be True means nothing but PR for a short term. Often a Very Short Term. All "Ivy League Schools" and more pushes out a lot of Total Crap and if Publish "for Peer Review." many are force to retract them w/o bothering MSM or anyone else. Other "papers" simply fall thru holes as no-one bothers to review crap. Worse Other Crap Papers often cit old crap papers, surveys, "studies," etc. knowing they are a scam.
Far Worse, many DOE-funded projects are total crap too like all Solar Roads, paths, bike ways, etc. w/ US alone wasting Billions on anything "Green."
Sure there are problems with the peer review system, but what is a better alternative? Just look on the internet for something that supports what you want to believe? Very few of us have the equipment or knowledge to run these experiments ourselves.
BTW if investing in solar power is a "waste" the China is "wasting" thousands of times more money than we are.
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Originally posted by fredtoast: Sure there are problems with the peer review system, but what is a better alternative? Just look on the internet for something that supports what you want to believe? Very few of us have the equipment or knowledge to run these experiments ourselves.
BTW if investing in solar power is a "waste" the China is "wasting" thousands of times more money than we are.
Solar Roads & related is a Scam that put solar panels in/as the pavement for roads, paths, etc. and DOE and other Do Not Care because they're "green." google the term and look at the BS Hype. All Failed to make power because many of same reasons: Dirt on them. Anything walking to drive over and smash them. parts break off and hurt people IOW Safety to HAZMAT problems when broken. and more. Worse, some of these are "Abandon" for years now because tearing out cost more tax money and create more problems. Often is "E-waste" & illegal to send to landfill or incinerate in many places. But still others keep to scam alive ignoring the “Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results” with your Taxes.
Fusion Power is always a "few years" away. Cern et al whats another "atom smasher." Both cost Billions Per Year and nothing to show for that money.
Now that you might be on same page: "Peer review system" is a scam racking in Million$ just to Publish whatever pays them from the "right people" supports whatever including complete BS "papers." You might have a real thing to "save the world" but don't have huge money to pay their fees and no else to push it thru by "schools" etc. that you don't fit whatever agenda they have to be a PR shill.
Related: US Patents stopped pretending does anything but "Rubber Stamp" nearly all submissions since the Feds passed the "Patent Reform Act" years ago because USPTO gets all Patent fees. While "dead" now look up US5443036A (Google patent search) that should never get a Patent for many reasons... now all big players "patent" every kind of crap and pay USPTO Million$ per year just for Patents alone. Even if you have "Prior Art" and more showing X patent is BS... You now have to Pay 10's of Thousands of $ just to have USPTO even look at you proof. E2A If they look, that that does not mean auto void a crap one. Only means more USPTO fees and likely a long fight in US Courts.
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Originally posted by fredtoast: BTW if investing in solar power is a "waste" the China is "wasting" thousands of times more money than we are.
The CCP has many ways to inflate any numbers you see. From numbers of EV "on the road" and thousands more and not only "green" stuff.
Worse, Because US and EU Greenies killed all "Rare earth" mining China and "3rd World" countries have all Lithium Cobalt and more that pollute far worse then any US mining and slave and child labor to dig it up. And many those countries are on China's Belt & Road...
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Well... Solar Roads reminds me of "Country Roads," but I'm not up for working on the parody song lyrics.
Solar Roads may well have been a loser. I'm not going to try to dispute that. But the DOE has many other kinds of green energy research and pilot or demonstration-type projects that are being worked with federal funding and various university-affiliated or private sector entities.
As far as Lithium and the other metals and materials that are required for Electric Vehicles, I recently posted some reports about how the U.S. and other West-aligned nations have ongoing private sector initiatives to break the Chinese and China-aligned dominance, with new ways to extract these materials from natural deposits in the U.S., Canada, Western Europe, South America and Australia (if memory serves me.)
I'm concerned that theogre may be throwing out the "green energy baby" with the bath water (so to speak.)
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I don't "Hate" Solar or Wind power. Solar Panels (Direct Electric, Thermal systems, and others) are good on a roofs, in a field, etc. Not to make "Solar Roads."
"Greenies" and most others for "Fixing Climate Problems" doesn't care about "Save the World" but Control Everything and why their killing nearly all power generation but solar and wind.
But Sun don't Shine and Wind won't Blow for minutes to days you have huge problems and no "Battery" backup system, "_" because Including Pumped Hydro Generation and related, makes enough power to power Factories, Huge IT installs, and more for days, most won't generate for Hours. Worse you have to charge the "batteries" that "looses" power between source and battery as waste heat then have another set of loses from "battery" to the Grid again. So for every 100Whr to charge, you get far less for power whatever else. Pump Hydro have less loses then any LiIon and other batteries but can't use it in most places. (Pump Hydro use and makes 3 Phase AC directly so far less lose then charging/dumping batteries.)
EPA DOE and others have been way Left for Decades and almost nothing is going to stop them. DOE gives your Taxes to almost anything w/ "Green" label. They knew Solar Roads and more are all scams and gave them money anyway. GM et al does not want EV but EPA forces them to make via CAFE. UK and EU have does similar there. Before many now are trying to Ban ICE in all form by LEV and ULEV laws in cities. Then all makers has to Spin PR @ Very High RPM that they "love EV to save the world" hoping enough buy them so doesn't crash the companies.
But 1 of many problem is Now more people have seen Fremantle Highway cargo ship w/ ~ 500 EV Burning & start to relies is your near future if many EV are allowed to park in parking garages etc under or next to buildings... Another w/ EV burning is Felicity Ace February 2022 sunk, crew saved, and too far away for MSM coverage. And before you say ICE car burn... Not the same way and they have many fires but these ships can control air into the cargo to snuff a fire fast. EV on Fire makes its own O2 to burn like a Gas Axe. Ever if a ICE vehicle started it, EV went "nuke" thru Thermal Runaway and destroyed 2 ships costing Billion$. All Insurance Co's around the word also saw this too... Already started jacking cost for people owned an EV because even Minor Wrecks often = "Totaling" the vehicle.
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YouTube'r the "Electric Viking" is saying that Lithium Ion Phosphate or LFP batteries for EVs should be safer and all around better than the Lithium Ternary or NMC batteries that are currently more the norm for EVs.
The "maxed out" EV boffin with the Australian English accent holds forth on this topic for 11 minutes and 30 seconds in this visually-rich presentation.
If the Electric Viking is on point, the LFP battery chemistry is preferable to the more currently common NMC alternative, because the LFP chemistry is inherently less susceptible to rapid, high temperature-producing combustion in the event of an accident, manufacturing defect or other malfunction.
He says that LFP chemistry batteries should be comparatively more affordable than NMC batteries, while providing the same effective road miles range between recharge cycles. He also says that the LFP batteries do not need cobalt, which has been notorious for the social inequities that have been associated with cobalt mining in Africa.
There could be more well informed reports about this on YouTube, but if you want to peruse what the Electric Viking has to say about it, this is your video segment..!
⚠️ While Other Li___ can be "safer" than LiIon, Many are less Power Dense too = Less Range/Power per same Battery Weight and Space. So where you have "Range anxiety" now w/ LiIon you have worse problem w/ other types and need More charging stations and waste more Time to Charge to get from A to B.
Originally posted by cliffw: rinselberg, I have a question. Why do you post topics in Totally O/T that you know are political. Do you think you can spin your yarn without a political response?
Whenever I post a new message or in this case, a new topic (thread), I am looking for engagement, and that is always measured by whether there are Reply messages, by the quality of the Reply messages, and by the demographic(s) of the forum members that take the time and effort to post Reply messages.
Leaving myself aside, we have two distinctly different demographics represented in the Reply messages:
"Commonly seen in both Totally O/T and Politics & Religion" Patrick, fredtoast, cliffw
Commonly seen in Totally O/T but seldom seen in Politics & Religion theogre, Hank is Here
Neither "theogre" or "Hank is Here" has expressed a complaint that I have violated the sanctity of the Totally O/T section by introducing an overtly political topic, so the fault here is clearly with "cliffw" for having an overly sensitive nerve (so to speak) about what topics are political. In other words, "cliffw" is being like this:
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This is so POLITICAL ..!
Is this a political topic?
The topic has some connections with politics, but it's not an overtly or inherently political topic. It's first and foremost a technology-related topic. It was originally about the possibility of a new way to improve the efficiency of solar energy installations.
In the course of the discussion, "theogre" referenced the problem of EV battery flammability, and I responded to that with a presentation from the Electric Viking of his thinking about the pros and cons between two different kinds of EV batteries that are currently in use. And "theogre" responded to that, but he did not express any angst about seeing politics in this Totally O/T section of the forum.
Almost any topic could have some certain connections or implications, but the issue that "cliffw" should be addressing is whether this is an inherently or overtly political topic, as it was originally conceived.
I would say, based on the evidence that's apparent, that the answer to that is a resounding "No." Two forum members, "theogre" and "Hank is Here", are like the proverbial canaries in the coal mine in this context, and neither one has expressed any concern about the intrusion of politics into what Cliff Pennock is offering as a space for non-political discussions, which was his intention for Totally O/T when he created the Politics & Religion section.
So the more relevant question is why "cliffw" is being triggered about this—and it's incumbent upon "cliffw" himself to grapple with that question.
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Originally posted by rinselberg: Almost any topic could have some certain connections or implications, but the issue that "cliffw" should be addressing is whether this is an inherently or overtly political topic, as it was originally conceived.
We are supposed to know your motivation ? I have seen you operate. I believe your motive is to dull disgust with the green energy boondoggle.
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Originally posted by rinselberg: ... the fault here is clearly with "cliffw" for having an overly sensitive nerve (so to speak) about what topics are political. In other words, "cliffw" is being like a KAREN.
Ah. so you know the motivation of my comments. So so wrong.
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Originally posted by rinselberg: Cliff Pennock is offering as a space for non-political discussions, which was his intention for Totally O/T when he created the Politics & Religion section.
So the more relevant question is why "cliffw" is being triggered about this—and it's incumbent upon "cliffw" himself to grapple with that question.
Nothing to grapple about. I am not triggered, nor do I have an overly sensitive nerve about what topics are political.
Why are you inviting great risk of the conversation evolving into politics ? The only thing I am sensitive to is our fellow forum members from being exposed to it.
Why are all you other green god topics in Politics & Religion ?
Originally posted by cliffw: Why are all you other green god topics in Politics & Religion?
There are four other "green god" topics in Totally O/T that I created in fairly recent times.
Australia's Recharge Industries set to disrupt EV and grid storage battery markets
The fastest 60 seconds in Floating Offshore Wind. TetraSpar turbine installation demo
'Big Wind' Vineyard Wind offshore wind energy project close to approval. 800 MW 'BFD'
Winter Storm Elliot ravaged much of the U.S., but how do climate scientists view it?
"Climate-related" covers a lot of ground.
Lately, the "Carbon Dioxide Hysteria" topic in Politics & Religion has been my Go To Place, more than any other.
"The evidence against anthropogenic global warming" thread, in Totally O/T, was started in 2008 and stretched to some 150 pages and 5,991 Reply messages before forum members moved on from it after the last update to that thread in 2021.
Guess who made the last update?
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[Within the U.S. Department of Energy,] the Hydrogen and Fuel Cell Technologies Office (HFTO) focuses on research, development, and demonstration of hydrogen and fuel cell technologies across multiple sectors enabling innovation, a strong domestic economy, and a clean, equitable energy future.
It's federal industrial policy... to provide federal funds in the form of grants or loans that enable private sector startups and consortiums to conduct research that looks promising from a science perspective, but is too speculative and forward looking to attract investment from commercial banks or the typical run of venture capitalists, who need more assurance of financial returns on their investments within a shorter period of time.
Backing the Liquid Sunlight Alliance financially in this way is a longer term proposition.
You might say it's "Uncle Sam's way of playing the Long Game."
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