I absolutely think Elon Musk is a genius. He has done amazing things but until he can get his standard Tesla's "hands free" feature to work correctly without people dying, the CyberCab can wait.
I haven't heard anyone dying or mass crashes as a result of FSD in Teslas. That is obviously a circulated myth. I guess it's like all Fieros catch fire type of rumor.
The videos of those driving on FSD without assistance is really amazing. It gets better and better on a rapid rate. They updated that literally monthly now. It's superior to humans in all aspects.
I believe Elon is right to say that we as a society will get very used to cars without pedals and steering wheels. It will be 50 x safer than human piloted ones and that is a believable statement.
But this as a grocery getter, school pickup/dropoff, errands or going out, would be perfect.
I haven't heard anyone dying or mass crashes as a result of FSD in Teslas. That is obviously a circulated myth.
No it's not a myth. Here in California, idiots on our busy freeways seem to think it's a great idea. The issue is it's inability to determine the changes in the lanes as well as self braking. There have been about 50 accidents so far since mid year. Here's the worst one where the Apple exec was driving and playing games on his phone. The car misjudged the lane paint in a construction zone and put him head on into a barrier.
Here's another one on tha SF Bay Bridge where the Tesla "thought" something was in front of it, slammed it's brakes and caused a major pileup.
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No it's not a myth. Here in California, idiots on our busy freeways seem to think it's a great idea. The issue is it's inability to determine the changes in the lanes as well as self braking. There have been about 50 accidents so far since mid year. Here's the worst one where the Apple exec was driving and playing games on his phone. The car misjudged the lane paint in a construction zone and put him head on into a barrier.
Here's another one on tha SF Bay Bridge where the Tesla "thought" something was in front of it, slammed it's brakes and caused a major pileup.
One question regarding the GPS- what would the cybercab do it if was "confused"?, and how would it handle a detour? Wait, that's TWO questions. Am I allowed to ask two? oh great, that was a third question...
We were driving over the weekend, and the GPS went all wonky, If I followed it's advice, we would have been stuck in a loop forever. I had to make a turn and then find the right exit ramp, but the GPS was *VERY* confused for awhile, it kepot saying to make turns at lights and stop signs and such...Once we were on the main road, it was ok again...
I really don't like self-driving cars, but....75% of the people out there should not be allowed to ride a bike, let alone drive a car!
Also, I don't like gull-wing doors- if you are upside-down after a crash, you cannot open either door...at least with normal doors, you can open one door no matter how the car ends up.
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Also, I don't like gull-wing doors- if you are upside-down after a crash, you cannot open either door...at least with normal doors, you can open one door no matter how the car ends up.
Hopefully getting out through a window is still an option... although if the windows are electric and the power supply has been disrupted, then the situation could get tense!
Here's the worst one where the Apple exec was driving and playing games on his phone. The car misjudged the lane paint in a construction zone and put him head on into a barrier.
Not sure what he was using since FSD on Teslas won't let you use it if your eyes are not on the road or your hands are not on the steering wheel (older versions). I'm pretty sure he was using "Lane Assist" (which many, many modern cars have right now) and not Full Self Drive. Lane/Break Assist is stupid and should never have been allowed in cars. It uses simple sensors to follow lines on the road or detect objects closing in quickly. Full Self Drive is a totally different beast.
And yes, horrible accidents happen with self driving cars. But the number of times horrible accidents have been avoided thanks to self driving cars far outweigh the accidents. FSD already is much, much safer than any human driver out there. Just watch the many YouTube videos and I'm sure you will be impressed as well. I specifically like the parts when the car suddenly brakes for apparently nothing, and you can here the driver saying that he thinks it's a "fluke" only to find out when editing the video and he watches the footage from all cameras that the car actually avoided a (bad) accident. Mind you, the car watches everything 360° around itself all at once. Not just where it's nose is pointed at as with a human driver.
Personally, I would feel much safer if all the cars around me were FSD cars. The stupidity of drivers I encounter every single day when I'm on the road is baffling.
This is actually a really, really, important statement. Teslas are under a microscope. But if we compared a similar vehicle, with similar characteristics... an autonomous vs non-autonomous vehicle... which one would have the higher collision rate? Although we can clearly look to a couple of examples of failure, I would not be surprised to see the Tesla actually being significantly safer, autonomously, than other non-autonomous vehicles.
