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"Alien life found" according to NASA filmmaker by Cliff Pennock
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Full story: https://www.msn.com/en-xl/n...r-claims/ar-AA1s7iYV

Not sure what to think of this.
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I have my doubts, but it would be fascinating.

The next question would be: Does it know we are here?
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Proxima Centauri is 4.2 light years from Earth and has two confirmed planets, a Jupiter-like gas giant and a rocky world called Proxima b in the habitable zone — key features of the star system that still has scientists excited about its prospects as a home for alien life.


It'll be awhile before we're exchanging ambassadors.
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Didn't Stephen Hawking suggest we maintain "Radio Silence" in regards to contacting alien life ?

If they travel any great distance, they are going to be looking for something to eat,

and we may be it.........
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Originally posted by Marko:
If they travel any great distance, they are going to be looking for something to eat,

and we may be it.........


"To Serve Man" is a famous episode from "The Twilight Zone". The story revolves around an alien race called the Kanamits, who come to Earth promising peace and advanced technology, but the twist reveals that their book titled "To Serve Man" is actually a cookbook, indicating their true intentions to use humans as food.
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Originally posted by Marko:

Didn't Stephen Hawking suggest we maintain "Radio Silence" in regards to contacting alien life ?

If they travel any great distance, they are going to be looking for something to eat,

and we may be it.........

Yeah. Think back to all of the "great explorers" in history. Most of them weren't out looking for new friends.

Then there is this:


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"To Serve Man" is a famous episode from "The Twilight Zone". The story revolves around an alien race called the Kanamits, who come to Earth promising peace and advanced technology, but the twist reveals that their book titled "To Serve Man" is actually a cookbook, indicating their true intentions to use humans as food.

But we all know he ain't from 'round here.

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Reading the article... this doesn't seem as exciting as I thought.

They've apparently intercepted what they believe to be a radio signal from intelligent life. We've received several signals (many of which came from Alpha Centari) that the NSA collected, and subsequently released via FOIA over the past few decades. There's several of them posted at the Little Alien Museum in Roswell, New Mexico.

I don't doubt it might be something, but unless they can conceivably "decode" it... it'll go over like a lead weight when they report it.
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Wow!

Carl Sagan claimed there were at least 8 other events like the above, all lacking repeatability, however.
If this is just another Wow! there won't be anything all that Wow!full about it.
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Originally posted by NewDustin:

Wow!

Carl Sagan claimed there were at least 8 other events like the above, all lacking repeatability, however.
If this is just another Wow! there won't be anything all that Wow!full about it.



Yeah... that's kind of the point I was trying to make. Unless they can do something with it, it's yet just another data point of many data points that are ignored.

Not to splash cold water on this either... but remember that a microwave, which operates at 2.45Ghz, VERY often will create a string of legitimately readable packets at the 2.4Ghz frequency, that can be picked up and decoded by promiscuous packet capture using WireShark. While the packet headers are of course malformed to some degree... these are still naturally occurring (or I should say incidentally occurring) phenomenon. So, it's entirely possible that something in nature is producing these signals, or yet still... something non-natural is accidentally creating these signals.

I discovered this while doing TSCM stuff several years ago.
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Yeah... that's kind of the point I was trying to make. Unless they can do something with it, it's yet just another data point of many data points that are ignored.

Not to splash cold water on this either... but remember that a microwave, which operates at 2.45Ghz, VERY often will create a string of legitimately readable packets at the 2.4Ghz frequency, that can be picked up and decoded by promiscuous packet capture using WireShark. While the packet headers are of course malformed to some degree... these are still naturally occurring (or I should say incidentally occurring) phenomenon. So, it's entirely possible that something in nature is producing these signals, or yet still... something non-natural is accidentally creating these signals.

I discovered this while doing TSCM stuff several years ago.

I feel like that's the draw and rub all at the same time. It's probably something we could explain if we had more time or samples...but maybe it isn't...and that's SO intriguing to me. Like a space Bloop.

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Art Bell, radio host for Coast to Coast, was an interesting character. He was big into Alien possibilities and had many a guest informing of their opinion.

Read up on him.

Coast to Coast
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Kind of a strange story about microwaves,

A couple months ago, I came across an article about a radio telescope facility in a remote part of Australia.

They were incurring what are refered to as "Fast Radio Bursts" on their equipment.

They scanned the skies for 17 years, before they determined the source..........

It was caused by people in the staff lunch room, opening the microwave door, mid cycle to check on or stir their food, without using the pause button.

17 years.......
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So, yeah, Betty Hill, was interviewed by an alien traveler, who landed on NH highway #3 in front of their '57 Chevy.
Franconia Notch, NH
Alien Abduction: Betty and Barney Hill
UFO Star Map and Alien Meeting
So, yeah, the aliens have been coming here for all time, that Moses meeting on Mt. Sinai in Saudi Arabia, the ' burning bush scene, the Ten Commandments, Ark of the Covenant ', all time.
Mt. Sinai in Saudi Arabia.
What all that means, is that we are not alone in the Galaxy !
They are our fathers, that live in the sky, in heaven, and who love us.
Is it possible that all humans are programmed to have memories genetically transferred ?
: profound pondering :
: Edison ! :

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Originally posted by NewDustin:

I feel like that's the draw and rub all at the same time. It's probably something we could explain if we had more time or samples...but maybe it isn't...and that's SO intriguing to me. Like a space Bloop.



Yeah, it was the craziest thing I'd ever seen when I first discovered it. I thought we'd somehow discovered a wireless device in a place it should not have been, that was part of some espionage plot. Turns out, it was just the microwave in the break room. I then looked it up, and realized that this was a thing and other people had noticed this too.

It's not "constant" ... so, what I mean is... it's not a massive stream of network packets. But you have to consider that when a microwave is running, it's a continuous stream of RF... and by sheer entropy, it creates a couple of packets every second or so. The "packets" will typically have some conformity (again through sheer entropy) to the IEE packet header format. When you look at the "data," it tends to be garbled, but conforms enough to it that it's viewed as a packet. When it's garbled, it looks like it's encrypted... so you assume there's some kind of exfiltration going on.

The other thing is, not all microwaves will do this... as 2.45Ghz is not exactly 2.4Ghz, but whether it's because it's a cheap microwave, or the microwave is getting older... it can end up doing this in many cases.


 
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Art Bell, radio host for Coast to Coast, was an interesting character. He was big into Alien possibilities and had many a guest informing of their opinion.

Read up on him.

Coast to Coast



Man, I'm so bummed. When I was 12, I had a clock radio by my bed (I guess I still technically do today), and I used to listen to Coast to Coast (though I didn't really consider what it was, because it came on right after NPR. I thought it was the coolest thing, and the topics were totally awesome.

In the past 30 years, the only time I've heard it has been if I'm extremely lucky and I happen to find it on AM radio during a road trip, and only when I'm leaving SUPER early in the morning (like before 5 AM or something), or if I'm pulling an all-night drive.

Truly, I'm kind of bummed... because I don't know when I'd ever be able to listen to it under normal circumstances. I know the original guy died, and there's a new guy, but apparently it's still pretty cool. I think I've listened to it 3 times (no longer than 30 minutes each) in the past 25-30 years.
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Coast to Coast

One can stream any station by clicking on the blue hyper link. There are five stations in Tampa you could hear over the air. I think you live close to Tampa.
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Coast to Coast

One can stream any station by clicking on the blue hyper link. There are five stations in Tampa you could hear over the air. I think you live close to Tampa.



It's more the problem of "when," since I'm not really listening at that point. BUT, I see they have stuff on-Demand, so I can pretty much listen to it whenever I want. Thanks for that!!!
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Presentation from the 2014 Ozark Mountain Conference.
Moments ago, I was outside on the front steps, observing the Orion Constellation, Jupiter high and bright, a full Moon, enjoying a cup of tea, as the neighbor's b+w cat brushed against my pant leg, a case of mistaken identity, ' You scared me, I thought you were the skunk. Hey ! You are the skunk ! ' The skunk stopped, lifted her tail slightly, giving me a momentary glance, then continued on her way, foraging for grubs in the lawn next door.
Orion tonight.
Lex Fridman : Graham Hancock, Lost Civilization
The Pyramids of Egypt, a machine built to phone home, powered by a lightning strike, a burst microwave transmission, encoding the alien that was Methuselah, all of his memories, all of his dna, travelling to Orion at the speed of light.

The Origins Conference, Nov. '16, London, UK.
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Lex Fridman - Graham Hancock discusses the Pyramids, Oct 17, '24

: ponder :

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I'm pretty sure there are a couple interstellar aliens right here on Pennocks.
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They haven't yet discovered me, they think that I too, am a Pear !
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